LA Rams ratings worse than they ever were in St Louis

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LA Rams ratings worse than they ever were in St Louis 

Post#1 » by bwgood77 » Thu Dec 1, 2016 5:24 pm

From Frank Schwab - see link for full story

Throughout the history of expansion and relocated pro sports teams, a great first season at the gate has been a near certainty. Whether the team wins or loses, there’s a novelty for at least the first season.

The Los Angeles Rams aren’t really getting that grace period.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch’s Dan Caesar broke down the television ratings numbers, and they’re a little surprising. The Rams, back in Los Angeles after 21 seasons in St. Louis, are not drawing huge ratings. They’re averaging a 9.4, or 9.8 when an early start game on Oct. 23 in London is not counted. Ratings in St. Louis were much better for Rams games. The Post-Dispatch said the worst rating for a Rams game in 21 seasons was a 10.6, and that came in 2013 when the St. Louis Cardinals were playing a World Series game at the same time.

Rating is based on percentage of homes tuned into a program. It makes sense that the Rams aren’t drawing a higher percentage of viewers in massive Los Angeles than they did in St. Louis. And a lower rating in Los Angeles still could mean many more viewers than they were getting in St. Louis, since it’s based on percentage. However, the Post-Dispatch also said that two other NFL games (Oakland-Carolina, Denver-Kansas City) drew better ratings in Los Angeles on Sunday than the Rams’ 8.4 for its 49-21 loss to the New Orleans Saints. The USC-Notre Dame game last weekend drew a better rating there too.

The Rams’ attendance numbers can be looked at in two ways, too. They are filling just 89.4 percent of their capacity this season, one of only two NFL teams under 90 percent capacity this season according to ESPN. The other team under 90 percent is the San Diego Chargers, who might move to Los Angeles after the season. Like L.A. seems to be clamoring for a second team.

If you want to be positive about the Rams’ attendance, their average of 83,687 is second in the NFL. However, they also have the second-largest stadium in the NFL and a market of more than four million people. If the Rams didn’t rank that high, there would be a serious issue.

The Rams’ relocation is unusual in many ways. The Rams used to play in L.A., through the 1994 season, so it feels different than a new team moving in. The Rams are plugging away for three seasons in the old Los Angeles Coliseum, so the Rams might not get the new-team buzz until 2019 when a grand new stadium opens in Inglewood. Also, Los Angeles is a market that doesn’t blindly support a bad and boring team. The Rams are 4-7 and have played some of the dullest games in the NFL this season. There’s too much to do in Southern California to waste Sundays watching an uninteresting football team. With the Rams practically eliminated from the playoff race with five games to go, it won’t get better over the rest of the season either.

The Rams and the NFL can’t be thrilled to see the mediocre television ratings, or to see the Rams getting fewer viewers than a Broncos-Chiefs game got in the Los Angeles market. It can change if the results on the field get better, or when the new stadium opens. It’s not a crisis or anything like that. But if the NFL and the Rams expected enormous numbers just because the league was back in L.A. for the first time since 1994, it hasn’t happened.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/tv-ratings-and-attendance-for-l-a-rams-games-arent-blowing-anyone-away-231611925.html

So the Chargers are the only other team with less than 90% capacity filling their stadium, but I'm guessing it would be even worse if they moved to LA where they are already much less popular than an apparently not so popular LA Rams team.
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Re: LA Rams ratings worse than they ever were in St Louis 

Post#2 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Dec 1, 2016 6:14 pm

Two observations...

    The attendance issue will resolve itself once the new stadium opens. It won't be nearly as cavernous as the Coliseum so that'll be an organic fix.
    If the NFL thought they would just bring the Rams back and everything would be all better, they they were silly.
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Post#3 » by Mich3006 » Fri Dec 2, 2016 9:16 am

So it´s completely logic for the Chargers to move to LA as well :crazy:

No Chargers or Raiders fan but I really hope both will stay... and if they really want to move to a city that deserve a sportsteam - Austin (or Louisville) says hello.
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Post#4 » by bleu » Fri Dec 2, 2016 1:39 pm

Everyone should know how fickle LA sports fans are. If the Rams play well they're going to have millions of "diehards" bragging about the team, and when they suck it will be like they don't even exist.
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Post#5 » by bwgood77 » Fri Dec 2, 2016 9:48 pm

Ayatollah wrote:So it´s completely logic for the Chargers to move to LA as well :crazy:

No Chargers or Raiders fan but I really hope both will stay... and if they really want to move to a city that deserve a sportsteam - Austin (or Louisville) says hello.


Man I'd be happy if they moved to Austin. Would never happen. Texas football is just all anyone cares about here (Austin). And everyone that isn't a transplant here who likes their hometown team of course is a Cowboys fan.

I agree. If the Rams can't sell out their stadium the Chargers would be nuts to move there. Hopefully the owner is just using it as leverage to get the NFL to kick in more money for a stadium in SD.
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Post#6 » by FNQ » Sat Dec 3, 2016 1:02 am

Of the 3 teams, they picked the worst one to move to LA.

I wish Jeff Fisher luck though. Even though Gronk is out, having to deal with the nightmare backfield of Brandon Bolden and Danny Woodhead is just really tough. And if Curtis Martin has gotten over that leg injury, even tougher. But at least they have the weapons to hold Terry Glenn and Troy Brown in check
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Re: LA Rams ratings worse than they ever were in St Louis 

Post#7 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Dec 3, 2016 6:07 am

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Ayatollah wrote:So it´s completely logic for the Chargers to move to LA as well :crazy:

No Chargers or Raiders fan but I really hope both will stay... and if they really want to move to a city that deserve a sportsteam - Austin (or Louisville) says hello.


Man I'd be happy if they moved to Austin. Would never happen. Texas football is just all anyone cares about here (Austin). And everyone that isn't a transplant here who likes their hometown team of course is a Cowboys fan.

I agree. If the Rams can't sell out their stadium the Chargers would be nuts to move there. Hopefully the owner is just using it as leverage to get the NFL to kick in more money for a stadium in SD.

It really sucks that San Diego is losing the Chargers. Having been down that road, it really saddens me to see a city like that lose its football team. Such a great city. :(
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Post#8 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Dec 4, 2016 3:18 pm

Poor Ernie, lol.
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Post#9 » by Otis Driftwood » Sun Dec 4, 2016 4:23 pm

I'm sure signing Fisher to a two year extension will bump those ratings.
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Post#10 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Dec 4, 2016 5:11 pm

One name: Stan Kroenke
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Post#11 » by Dry_Fish » Sun Dec 4, 2016 11:06 pm

Reminds me when Matt Millen was GM of the lions ...to be so bad for so long and not be fired

Jeff Fisher must have something on the owner
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Post#12 » by FNQ » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:40 am

Otis Driftwood wrote:I'm sure signing Fisher to a two year extension will bump those ratings.


It's unreal.. he and the GM got extended.

As they plod to another underwhelming season after using ton of assets to get Jared Goff, who appears to be no better than the 3rd or 4th QB drafted behind Dak/Wentz and maybe even Kessler. This is after the GM also used the #2 pick on bust Greg Robinson.. I really just dont know what they are doing in LA.
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Post#13 » by Otis Driftwood » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:45 am

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Otis Driftwood wrote:I'm sure signing Fisher to a two year extension will bump those ratings.


It's unreal.. he and the GM got extended.

As they plod to another underwhelming season after using ton of assets to get Jared Goff, who appears to be no better than the 3rd or 4th QB drafted behind Dak/Wentz and maybe even Kessler. This is after the GM also used the #2 pick on bust Greg Robinson.. I really just dont know what they are doing in LA.


I don't get it. I can excuse drafting Goff if they truly believe he can develop into the franchise QB. But Fisher is still living off of Steve McNair and that one Super Bowl loss. Take the McNair era out of his resume and he's not even a .500 coach. He's the epitome of overrated.
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Post#14 » by Mamba Mentality » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:47 am

I'm hearing conflicting reports that Fisher might still be fired by the Rams. Kroenke needs to just pay the guy and tell him to gtfo.
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Post#15 » by FNQ » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:48 am

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Otis Driftwood wrote:I'm sure signing Fisher to a two year extension will bump those ratings.


It's unreal.. he and the GM got extended.

As they plod to another underwhelming season after using ton of assets to get Jared Goff, who appears to be no better than the 3rd or 4th QB drafted behind Dak/Wentz and maybe even Kessler. This is after the GM also used the #2 pick on bust Greg Robinson.. I really just dont know what they are doing in LA.


I don't get it. I can excuse drafting Goff if they truly believe he can develop into the franchise QB. But Fisher is still living off of Steve McNair and that one Super Bowl loss. Take the McNair era out of his resume and he's not even a .500 coach. He's the epitome of overrated.


As soon as I posted, I thought - maybe Kroenke is doing this because of the Goff trade. Giving Fisher and Snead enough rope to hang themselves so by the time all the picks from that trade are exhausted he can get a legitimate coach/GM combo that isnt working from a deep hole. As a Raider fan I was deathly afraid of who Mark Davis was going to bring in to GM once we canned Hue, because our cupboard was bare as all hell. But we got a hell of a guy in Reggie.. that said, that's not the norm. You usually get desperate guys who want the title of coach/GM when you are a crappy team with no signs of that changing.
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Post#16 » by FNQ » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:50 am

The Regime wrote:I'm hearing conflicting reports that Fisher might still be fired by the Rams. Kroenke needs to just pay Fisher and tell him to gtfo.


There are reports out there that there's an escape clause after 2017 season... I would hope so. I'm not a fan of the Rams by any stretch but man do I hate Jeff Fisher.
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Post#17 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:50 am

The Regime wrote:I'm hearing conflicting reports that Fisher might still be fired by the Rams. Kroenke needs to just pay Fisher and tell him to gtfo.

Totally, but that's not kroenke's M.O.
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Post#18 » by FNQ » Mon Dec 5, 2016 2:51 am

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Otis Driftwood wrote:I'm sure signing Fisher to a two year extension will bump those ratings.


It's unreal.. he and the GM got extended.

As they plod to another underwhelming season after using ton of assets to get Jared Goff, who appears to be no better than the 3rd or 4th QB drafted behind Dak/Wentz and maybe even Kessler. This is after the GM also used the #2 pick on bust Greg Robinson.. I really just dont know what they are doing in LA.


I don't get it. I can excuse drafting Goff if they truly believe he can develop into the franchise QB. But Fisher is still living off of Steve McNair and that one Super Bowl loss. Take the McNair era out of his resume and he's not even a .500 coach. He's the epitome of overrated.


If you get a chance, listen to the Fantasy Focus podcast (Matthew Berry, Field Yates, Stephania Bell). Berry goes in on Fisher all the time, calls August 8th "Jeff Fisher day" (8-8) and just reams the poor guy to death for being an average coach and sub-average person (ie the Dickerson incident)
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It's unreal.. he and the GM got extended.

As they plod to another underwhelming season after using ton of assets to get Jared Goff, who appears to be no better than the 3rd or 4th QB drafted behind Dak/Wentz and maybe even Kessler. This is after the GM also used the #2 pick on bust Greg Robinson.. I really just dont know what they are doing in LA.


I don't get it. I can excuse drafting Goff if they truly believe he can develop into the franchise QB. But Fisher is still living off of Steve McNair and that one Super Bowl loss. Take the McNair era out of his resume and he's not even a .500 coach. He's the epitome of overrated.


If you get a chance, listen to the Fantasy Focus podcast (Matthew Berry, Field Yates, Stephania Bell). Berry goes in on Fisher all the time, calls August 8th "Jeff Fisher day" (8-8) and just reams the poor guy to death for being an average coach and sub-average person (ie the Dickerson incident)



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Post#20 » by bleu » Mon Dec 5, 2016 6:20 am

Remember how there were all those rumors about Fisher getting an extension before the season, but nothing was ever made public so everyone just assumed that it was false? Word is that the extension just announced was actually that one, done before the season. Stupid as **** if you ask me, even then. But that's the Rams for ya.

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