Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To

[Duke4life831]

If you guys are looking for a stretch 4 that fits with Whiteside give Lauri Markkanen a watch. Now that is a perfect fit to go along Whiteside.

Yeah I don't expect him to be a great fit next to Whiteside early on, but like so many other big men in the league today I expect him to expand his range out to the 3-point line as early as his 2nd year in the nba. If he's LA or Bosh I wouldn't want to pass on that because of spacing concerns. I'd most likely pick Markkanen over Rabb but not sure if we'll get a top 8 pick. Right now, I got us picking 10th.

Thats the thing though, I dont see Rabb extending his range all that much. Hes got a weird funky inconsistent release. Sometimes he shoots it over his head but sometimes its over the left side of his face. He shoots on his way down a lot and doesnt seem to have much shooting touch. Then add in his really poor FT shooting. I just dont see a really promising jumper from him.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

If you guys are looking for a stretch 4 that fits with Whiteside give Lauri Markkanen a watch. Now that is a perfect fit to go along Whiteside.

Yeah I don't expect him to be a great fit next to Whiteside early on, but like so many other big men in the league today I expect him to expand his range out to the 3-point line as early as his 2nd year in the nba. If he's LA or Bosh I wouldn't want to pass on that because of spacing concerns. I'd most likely pick Markkanen over Rabb but not sure if we'll get a top 8 pick. Right now, I got us picking 10th.

Thats the thing though, I dont see Rabb extending his range all that much. Hes got a weird funky inconsistent release. Sometimes he shoots it over his head but sometimes its over the left side of his face. He shoots on his way down a lot and doesnt seem to have much shooting touch. Then add in his really poor FT shooting. I just dont see a really promising jumper from him.

I'd take that over a PG who's not showing much promise as a decent 3-point shooter. IF Rabb doesn't work out as a PF then we could slide him over to the C position(when Whiteside sits) and maybe he could garner future trade interest. I'd probably even take Anunoby over Fox, I just hope someone picks Fox before us unless he starts to consistently make 3s.

[Duke4life831]

Yeah I don't expect him to be a great fit next to Whiteside early on, but like so many other big men in the league today I expect him to expand his range out to the 3-point line as early as his 2nd year in the nba. If he's LA or Bosh I wouldn't want to pass on that because of spacing concerns. I'd most likely pick Markkanen over Rabb but not sure if we'll get a top 8 pick. Right now, I got us picking 10th.

Thats the thing though, I dont see Rabb extending his range all that much. Hes got a weird funky inconsistent release. Sometimes he shoots it over his head but sometimes its over the left side of his face. He shoots on his way down a lot and doesnt seem to have much shooting touch. Then add in his really poor FT shooting. I just dont see a really promising jumper from him.

I'd take that over a PG who's not showing much promise as a decent 3-point shooter. IF Rabb doesn't work out as a PF then we could slide him over to the C position(when Whiteside sits) and maybe he could garner future trade interest. I'd probably even take Anunoby over Fox, I just hope someone picks Fox before us unless he starts to consistently make 3s.

Oh I agree with you 100% on Fox. Im not the biggest fan of Fox because of his half court scoring issues. I dont think he has that great of a handle, doesnt finish all that well in the paint and that jumper form looks good from time to time but just doesnt seem to be a good shooter. I just dont think Rabb is a fit in Miami.

The talent is so grouped up its hard to tell who will be there say at 10. Fox and Rabb are probably the two last people I think you guys would take. Guys that may fall to 10 maybe include Isaac, Markkanen, OG, hell Giles may even slide that far and hes a better fit next to Whiteside because he has a jumper out to 18 feet already and can guard the perimeter better than Rabb. I think guys like Ferguson, Lydon and Bridges all fit much better with you guys than Rabb or Fox. Right now on most mock drafts all the 5s seem to be at the end of the lottery, I just think a few of those bigs will be taken early which will mean a guard or wing will fall to 10.

[leoshes]

If we have a chance at drafting either Fox or Rabb I'd rather have Rabb. Last 2 games he's been really impressive and we need another PF, not our 5th/6th guard. I also have concerns about Fox's 3-point shooting.

I have not seen him play yet. Do you see him fitting well with Whiteside?

I dont at all. I honestly dont think Rabb is that great of a fit for you guys. I think with Whiteside you want a 4 that can kinda stretch out the defense, Rabb doesnt do that.

I've been looking at Jonathan Isaac as a possibility at PF. He stile of game looks like it would fit nicely next to Whiteside. If we fall out of the top 5, i wouldn't mind drafting him. Just me but he reminds me of a combination of Rashard Lewis/Tim Thomas/Robert Horry.

[Duke4life831]

I have not seen him play yet. Do you see him fitting well with Whiteside?

I dont at all. I honestly dont think Rabb is that great of a fit for you guys. I think with Whiteside you want a 4 that can kinda stretch out the defense, Rabb doesnt do that.

I've been looking at Jonathan Isaac as a possibility at PF. He stile of game looks like it would fit nicely next to Whiteside. If we fall out of the top 5, i wouldn't mind drafting him. Just me but he reminds me of a combination of Rashard Lewis/Tim Thomas/Robert Horry.

Definitely one of the rawer prospects in the lotto this year. But he has solid two way potential. Hard to really pinpoint what type of player he'll end being. Low floor but high ceiling. But if you can get that around the 10th pick that would be one hell of a pick. Usually get those type of guys around 5

[leoshes]

I dont at all. I honestly dont think Rabb is that great of a fit for you guys. I think with Whiteside you want a 4 that can kinda stretch out the defense, Rabb doesnt do that.

I've been looking at Jonathan Isaac as a possibility at PF. He stile of game looks like it would fit nicely next to Whiteside. If we fall out of the top 5, i wouldn't mind drafting him. Just me but he reminds me of a combination of Rashard Lewis/Tim Thomas/Robert Horry.

Definitely one of the rawer prospects in the lotto this year. But he has solid two way potential. Hard to really pinpoint what type of player he'll end being. Low floor but high ceiling. But if you can get that around the 10th pick that would be one hell of a pick. Usually get those type of guys around 5

Depending on how Giles, Tatum, & Fox do, i can see him fall to around 9/13. It depend alot on how they play at the terny, & how they do at the Chicago predraft camp.

[puppa bear]

Looking at the way the top-15 is starting to take shape, there's only really 2 players that won't be quality pick-ups (assuming Dragic is on the move) for us: Tatum & Bolden. Some could argue that Monk could fit on that list, but adding him to JR & TJ gives us a platoon of young combos to play the majority of the backcourt minutes.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you dont like about them?

It's not so much not liking, but rather redundancy with Justise & Hassan. I can't see either Juatise or Tatum playing PF and I can't see either Hassan or Bolden playing PF either.

The guards we can move Dragic, or run two PGs, or run a handful of SGs on he wings and let Waiters walk.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

I've been looking at Jonathan Isaac as a possibility at PF. He stile of game looks like it would fit nicely next to Whiteside. If we fall out of the top 5, i wouldn't mind drafting him. Just me but he reminds me of a combination of Rashard Lewis/Tim Thomas/Robert Horry.

Definitely one of the rawer prospects in the lotto this year. But he has solid two way potential. Hard to really pinpoint what type of player he'll end being. Low floor but high ceiling. But if you can get that around the 10th pick that would be one hell of a pick. Usually get those type of guys around 5

Depending on how Giles, Tatum, & Fox do, i can see him fall to around 9/13. It depend alot on how they play at the terny, & how they do at the Chicago predraft camp.

I don't see Isaac falling to us at 9 or 10, just has way too much potential. If we end up with the 9th pick I think there's a good chance we'll either have Markkanen or Giles available to us unless a prospect that's slated to go top 9 decides to stay another year. Tatum is someone I could see falling to 8 or 9 and I'd pick him over Giles(injury history) but Markkanen>Tatum in terms of fit on this team.

[UD4MVP]

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[UD4MVP]

Getting a Rashard Lewis type prospect in Isaac next to Hassan would be pretty dope. Orlando Dwight had two versatile forwards next to him in Hedo and Rashard. If Isaac's only major flaw is strength, I'd take a chance at that.

[leoshes]

Looking at the way the top-15 is starting to take shape, there's only really 2 players that won't be quality pick-ups (assuming Dragic is on the move) for us: Tatum & Bolden. Some could argue that Monk could fit on that list, but adding him to JR & TJ gives us a platoon of young combos to play the majority of the backcourt minutes.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you dont like about them?

It's not so much not liking, but rather redundancy with Justise & Hassan. I can't see either Juatise or Tatum playing PF and I can't see either Hassan or Bolden playing PF either.

The guards we can move Dragic, or run two PGs, or run a handful of SGs on he wings and let Waiters walk.

Ok i get you. I can see us not needing Bolden, cause Whiteside is a corner piece, but Justise hasn't proven anything yet. I havent even seen Tatum play not one game yet so i dont know what to expect, but i could imagine them both playing together as a small ball interchangeable forwards. or we can just trade one of them for a legit PF to play along side the one we dont trade.

Either way we still have a lot of time left to evaluate them more.

[leoshes]

Definitely one of the rawer prospects in the lotto this year. But he has solid two way potential. Hard to really pinpoint what type of player he'll end being. Low floor but high ceiling. But if you can get that around the 10th pick that would be one hell of a pick. Usually get those type of guys around 5

Depending on how Giles, Tatum, & Fox do, i can see him fall to around 9/13. It depend alot on how they play at the terny, & how they do at the Chicago predraft camp.

I don't see Isaac falling to us at 9 or 10, just has way too much potential. If we end up with the 9th pick I think there's a good chance we'll either have Markkanen or Giles available to us unless a prospect that's slated to go top 9 decides to stay another year. Tatum is someone I could see falling to 8 or 9 and I'd pick him over Giles(injury history) but Markkanen>Tatum in terms of fit on this team.

NBA draft room has Isaac at 11th.

http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2017-nba-mock-draft.html

Draft news has him at 12th.

http://www.draft-news.com/2017-nba-mock-draft/

I think he has a good chance to slide down, + if Giles is healthy, i would probably pick him over Isaac.

[DayofMourning]

I think Isaac stays in the top 8 or so. He's going to remind some scouts of guys like Durant, and will benefit due to that. He's a solid talent with a knack for scoring the ball and making it look easy. He also is going to check off the measurables box. Teams love that length.

I might have the lowest opinion of Giles on the board. I really don't like him as a prospect. Those knees. Those ridiculous comparison to Chris Webber. I hope he tears it up, but he's too risky for me.

[DayofMourning]

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[UD4MVP]

I think Isaac stays in the top 8 or so. He's going to remind some scouts of guys like Durant, and will benefit due to that. He's a solid talent with a knack for scoring the ball and making it look easy. He also is going to check off the measurables box. Teams love that length.

I might have the lowest opinion of Giles on the board. I really don't like him as a prospect. Those knees. Those ridiculous comparison to Chris Webber. I hope he tears it up, but he's too risky for me.

I'd only be okay with Giles if we got a second first rounder that was like the 18th pick or something, at that point might as well take a gamble if our other pick is really high

[DayofMourning]

Kansas at 8
Duke at 9
Arizona at 10

[DayofMourning]

I think Isaac stays in the top 8 or so. He's going to remind some scouts of guys like Durant, and will benefit due to that. He's a solid talent with a knack for scoring the ball and making it look easy. He also is going to check off the measurables box. Teams love that length.

I might have the lowest opinion of Giles on the board. I really don't like him as a prospect. Those knees. Those ridiculous comparison to Chris Webber. I hope he tears it up, but he's too risky for me.

I'd only be okay with Giles if we got a second first rounder that was like the 18th pick or something, at that point might as well take a gamble if our other pick is really high

How high of a pick would you gamble on Giles? 1st? 5th? 10th?

[puppa bear]

I think Isaac stays in the top 8 or so. He's going to remind some scouts of guys like Durant, and will benefit due to that. He's a solid talent with a knack for scoring the ball and making it look easy. He also is going to check off the measurables box. Teams love that length.

I might have the lowest opinion of Giles on the board. I really don't like him as a prospect. Those knees. Those ridiculous comparison to Chris Webber. I hope he tears it up, but he's too risky for me.

I'd only be okay with Giles if we got a second first rounder that was like the 18th pick or something, at that point might as well take a gamble if our other pick is really high

How high of a pick would you gamble on Giles? 1st? 5th? 10th?

It will 100% depend on health as to how high you take him. He's got top-3 potential in terms of physical attributes, skill and game. But he's had a horrific track record with his knees lately. Some players get it all back and never have any more issues until the end of their career, others are just an IR waiting to happen.

I wouldn't touch him at #1, unless he comes back in and dominates (& I mean truly dominates). Otherwise teams should be biting from 5 onwards, depending on their take on his knees.

If we are picking at 10th and somehow Isaac/Giles/Markkanen are all there then I would probably go Giles, unless he's been injured again. The upside is too large to miss out on. But then again, I'd probably want to trade for the 11th to get Isaac as well. That is going to be a decent slide for either player, and for both to happen I would be surprised.

Right now I have (each group not ordered)
Top 3
Fultz/Ball/JJ
Next 4 (4-7)
Isaac/Giles/Smith/Tatum
Our pick range, atm (8-11)
Fox/Rabb/Markkanen/Monk
Late lotto (12-15)
Anunoby/Ntilikina/Bolden/Bridges

At the moment my next two are Hartenstein and Adebayo. I can see either jumping into the late lotto, and I can also see Bolden jumping up a group, maybe 2 if he plays well in the tourney (this draft has no other high lotto C).

[Bishop45]

I'd like a PG but if we only have one pick, I want an SG

Monk/Isaac (Isaac would be a cool SG) pls

[DayofMourning]

I'd like a PG but if we only have one pick, I want an SG

Monk/Isaac (Isaac would be a cool SG) pls

A lineup of Dragic, Monk, Winslow, Ibaka, and Whiteside doesn't look too bad next year.