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Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST

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Re: Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST 

Post#321 » by DTP » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:34 pm

ElectricMayhem wrote:I know it's Reggie's first game back, but it's a fair point to question whether we are a better team with Ish or Reggie at the helm. Reggie is without question the better individual talent. But Ish has the ability to make his teammates better. It's interesting because I think when Reggie is locked in, he gets Andre locked in. However, Ish does a better job of including KCP, Tobias, and Morris. I really hope Reggie picked up some stuff from Ish while he was injured and can use that to improve his game. As someone said, and I'm too lazy to go back and see who, when Reggie has the ball, other players on the court develop trunk-legs. That does not happen with Ish. Then again, I don't think we can ever choose Ish over Reggie without tanking Reggie's value. Remember what a spurned Reggie was like in OKC's locker room.

Overall, I think Reggie will improve our team as the starter. But that doesn't mean Ish's contributions to the starting lineup were insignificant. Ish showed just how much ball movement can help our team. If Reggie implements that, we will be full throttle ahead. We are at our best when Reggie is our starter AND he realizes that ball movement is the key.


No, its not a fair question at all. A week ago everyone was calling for Ish to be benched for Beno....now he's good enough to overtake our $80m point guard who lead the team to the playoffs last season? Come on guys....you're better than this.
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Re: Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST 

Post#322 » by Han Solo » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:50 pm

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ElectricMayhem wrote:I know it's Reggie's first game back, but it's a fair point to question whether we are a better team with Ish or Reggie at the helm. Reggie is without question the better individual talent. But Ish has the ability to make his teammates better. It's interesting because I think when Reggie is locked in, he gets Andre locked in. However, Ish does a better job of including KCP, Tobias, and Morris. I really hope Reggie picked up some stuff from Ish while he was injured and can use that to improve his game. As someone said, and I'm too lazy to go back and see who, when Reggie has the ball, other players on the court develop trunk-legs. That does not happen with Ish. Then again, I don't think we can ever choose Ish over Reggie without tanking Reggie's value. Remember what a spurned Reggie was like in OKC's locker room.

Overall, I think Reggie will improve our team as the starter. But that doesn't mean Ish's contributions to the starting lineup were insignificant. Ish showed just how much ball movement can help our team. If Reggie implements that, we will be full throttle ahead. We are at our best when Reggie is our starter AND he realizes that ball movement is the key.


No, its not a fair question at all. A week ago everyone was calling for Ish to be benched for Beno....now he's good enough to overtake our $80m point guard who lead the team to the playoffs last season? Come on guys....you're better than this.

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Re: Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST 

Post#323 » by JD43320 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 12:01 am

We lost the game because Dre didn't show up not because of Reggie. This is dumb.
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Re: Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST 

Post#324 » by ElectricMayhem » Tue Dec 6, 2016 2:19 am

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No, its not a fair question at all. A week ago everyone was calling for Ish to be benched for Beno....now he's good enough to overtake our $80m point guard who lead the team to the playoffs last season? Come on guys....you're better than this.


I'm better than what? Did I not say that we are better when Reggie is starting?
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Re: Game 22: Magic (8-12) @ Pistons (11-10) - 6 PM EST 

Post#325 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 4:08 am




After rewatching again we loss

1.) Because we didn't even try to play defense
2.) Offensively we went into 1 on 1's
3.) For some reason we started playing like we were the warriors


The first 2 i absolutely blame on RJ. There was clear change of pace when RJ sat on both ends. Also I counted 5 separate possessions where RJ held the ball for at least 14-15 seconds of the shot clock, where as Ish can't get the ball out of his hands quick enough. RJ also refuse to run the floor with any sort of pace. Defensively there were AT LEAST 3 possessions where Dj Aug literally just drove right by RJ , like no crossover just drove to the rim. Leaving our entire team defense exposed and to a lot of open shots. The clear difference between this game and last game is we failed to compound good posessions and that is mostly becuase we couldn't get consistent stops and when we did, we failed to make them pay.

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