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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#621 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:08 pm

K P 6 wrote:Rose just tries to pick his spots. His jumper is coming and thats very scary for opposing teams.

what spots, he does 2 things

put his head down and drive to the basket then jump in the air and pass it out when the lanes are closed

or

put his head down and drive to the basket
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#622 » by NYKMentality85 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:09 pm

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NYKMentality85 wrote:So many attacking PG's have scoring ability within today's NBA.

Westbrook: 31.0.
Harden: 28.7.
Lillard: 27.9.
Curry: 26.2.
Isaiah: 26.0.
Irving: 24.4.
Kemba: 23.6.
Wall: 22.4.
Lowry: 20.6.
Hill: 20.0.
Bledsoe: 19.3.
Conley: 19.2.
CP3: 17.8.
Dragic: 17.1.
Rose: 17.0 (19.3 previous 10 games).

But appearantely, according to some; Rose shouldn't look to provide us with a 3rd scoring option due to being a "PG". It's head scratching.

Rose also has a FG% higher than 8 of those 14 scoring PG's listed above. His season FG% of .455% (rapidly increasing) is basically tied with that of CP3's (.456).

Although I'd like to see Rose average about 6.5 assists per game (around top 10 amongst PG's) I really can't even complain about his 4.9 assists per game either; considering the fact that only two PG's are currently averaging over 10 assists per game (Westbrook & Harden).

the ones bolded aren't point guards. :lol:


According to their head coaches & starting lineups they are.

Some of these duds have amazing ball handing ability as well. The type of ball handling/dribbling ability in which a traditional SG could only dream of.

Yes; they are PG's. Attacking/Scoring PG's.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#623 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:09 pm

SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#624 » by CJackson » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:14 pm

Let's re-sign everyone after 20 games. That's a solid game plan.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#625 » by HEZI » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:15 pm

blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.


Yeah he's a beast

2 APG career average in 8 years

He's been killing it. Patty Mills is a monster, he makes John Stockton look like a scrub
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#626 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:15 pm

SMAC-K wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.


Yeah he's a beast

2 APG career average in 8 years

He's been killing it. Patty Mills is a monster, he makes John Stockton look like a scrub

umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#627 » by Jay10 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:17 pm

SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio


You do realize pure point guards serve no purpose in the league anymore?

Rondo and Rubio have to play that role because they can't shoot from the perimeter.

Every guard in the league is a scoring guard.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#628 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:18 pm

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SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio


You do realize pure point guards serve no purpose in the league anymore?

Rondo and Rubio have to play that role because they can't shoot from the perimeter.

Every guard in the league is a scoring guard.

he's just mocking me, no worries.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#629 » by NYKMentality85 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:20 pm

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K P 6 wrote:Rose just tries to pick his spots. His jumper is coming and thats very scary for opposing teams.

what spots, he does 2 things

put his head down and drive to the basket then jump in the air and pass it out when the lanes are closed

or

put his head down and drive to the basket


You are extreme.

Below I'll post film of his previous game. I could post many more examples of proving you wrong. Rose doesn't play with "his head down". He's alert and aware of his surroundings while making plays.



Did i forget to mention throughout our previous 10 games Rose has averaged 19.3 points, 4.9 assists & 4.3 rebounds per game while shooting .468% from the field? N.Y has since gone 10-3.

I'll tell you what. For a player who simply "plays with his head down" those are outstanding numbers. Maybe he should play with a blind fold on :lol:
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#630 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:21 pm

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blueNorange wrote:
K P 6 wrote:Rose just tries to pick his spots. His jumper is coming and thats very scary for opposing teams.

what spots, he does 2 things

put his head down and drive to the basket then jump in the air and pass it out when the lanes are closed

or

put his head down and drive to the basket


You are extreme.

Below I'll post film of his previous game. I could post many more examples of proving you wrong. Rose doesn't play with "his head down". He's alert and aware of his surroundings while making plays.



Did i forget to mention throughout our previous 10 games Rose has averaged 19.3 points, 4.9 assists & 4.3 rebounds per game while shooting .468% from the field? N.Y has since gone 10-3.

I'll tell you what. For a player who simply "plays with his head down" those are outstanding numbers. Maybe he should play with a blind fold on :lol:

nope.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#631 » by Jay10 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:21 pm

blueNorange wrote:
Jay10 wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio


You do realize pure point guards serve no purpose in the league anymore?

Rondo and Rubio have to play that role because they can't shoot from the perimeter.

Every guard in the league is a scoring guard.

he's just mocking me, no worries.


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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#632 » by HEZI » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:23 pm

blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
blueNorange wrote:ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.


Yeah he's a beast

2 APG career average in 8 years

He's been killing it. Patty Mills is a monster, he makes John Stockton look like a scrub

umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.


Yeah it took like 2 seconds to look up a stat on an average NBA player
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#633 » by F N 11 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:25 pm

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blueNorange wrote:
K P 6 wrote:Rose just tries to pick his spots. His jumper is coming and thats very scary for opposing teams.

what spots, he does 2 things

put his head down and drive to the basket then jump in the air and pass it out when the lanes are closed

or

put his head down and drive to the basket


You are extreme.

Below I'll post film of his previous game. I could post many more examples of proving you wrong. Rose doesn't play with "his head down". He's alert and aware of his surroundings while making plays.



Did i forget to mention throughout our previous 10 games Rose has averaged 19.3 points, 4.9 assists & 4.3 rebounds per game while shooting .468% from the field? N.Y has since gone 10-3.

I'll tell you what. For a player who simply "plays with his head down" those are outstanding numbers. Maybe he should play with a blind fold on :lol:

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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#634 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:28 pm

SMAC-K wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
Yeah he's a beast

2 APG career average in 8 years

He's been killing it. Patty Mills is a monster, he makes John Stockton look like a scrub

umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.


Yeah it took like 2 seconds to look up a stat on an average NBA player

if patty mills is average then what's derrick rose?

mills:

8th in the league in offensive rpm
70th in the league in defensive rpm
9th in the league in rpm
11th in the league in wins

rose:

25th in the league in offensive rpm
78th in the league in defensive rpm
60th in the league in rpm
43rd in the league in wins

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#635 » by HEZI » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:35 pm

blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
blueNorange wrote:umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.


Yeah it took like 2 seconds to look up a stat on an average NBA player

if patty mills is average then what's derrick rose?

mills:

8th in the league in offensive rpm
70th in the league in defensive rpm
9th in the league in rpm
11th in the league in wins

rose:

25th in the league in offensive rpm
78th in the league in defensive rpm
60th in the league in rpm
43rd in the league in wins

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Games started 4
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Career games started in 8 years 14
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#636 » by NYKMentality85 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:38 pm

blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.


Rose (per 36): 19.0 points, 5.4 assists, 4.7 rebounds, 0.8 steals, 0.5 blocks & 3.0 turnovers per 36. FG% of .455% and a 16.5 Player Efficiency Rating.

Patty (per 36): 16.8 points, 5.6 assists, 3.1 rebounds, 0.9 steals, 0.0 blocks and 2.0 turnovers per 36. FG% of .488% and an 18.3 Player Efficiency Rating.

The catch 22 and something you're forgetting? Mills has been in San Antonio's system for 6 years now when compared to Rose who's only been within Hornacek's system for a whopping 20 games.

The production of Rose has been increasing rapidly throughout our previous 10 games as well. Remind me in another 20 games (as Rose learns N.Y's system) and i guarantee Rose will blow Patty's production out of the waters.
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Post#637 » by islanders11040 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:40 pm

blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.

So are you saying that Patty Mills is a better point guard than, Westbrook, irving, kemba, curry, isaiah, wall, hill, and bledsoe? Since none of those are PG's according to you?
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#638 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:42 pm

SMAC-K wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
Yeah it took like 2 seconds to look up a stat on an average NBA player

if patty mills is average then what's derrick rose?

mills:

8th in the league in offensive rpm
70th in the league in defensive rpm
9th in the league in rpm
11th in the league in wins

rose:

25th in the league in offensive rpm
78th in the league in defensive rpm
60th in the league in rpm
43rd in the league in wins

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Games started 4
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Career games started in 8 years 14
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

so a bench player is better than derrick rose?

yeah i gotta admit, that is funny. mostly sad though, but funny nonetheless on derrick rose's part. man, a bench player is more productive than you.
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Post#639 » by islanders11040 » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:42 pm

blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
blueNorange wrote:umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.


Yeah it took like 2 seconds to look up a stat on an average NBA player

if patty mills is average then what's derrick rose?

mills:

8th in the league in offensive rpm
70th in the league in defensive rpm
9th in the league in rpm
11th in the league in wins

rose:

25th in the league in offensive rpm
78th in the league in defensive rpm
60th in the league in rpm
43rd in the league in wins

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

umm, glad you know how to google someone and look at stats.
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Re: Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season 

Post#640 » by blueNorange » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:43 pm

islanders11040 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:Rose is not a PG we need a pure PG

We need Ricky Rubio

ricky is under contract.

patty mills is a better point guard than derrick rose.

So are you saying that Patty Mills is a better point guard than, Westbrook, irving, kemba, curry, isaiah, wall, hill, and bledsoe? Since none of those are PG's according to you?

westbrook no
irving no
kemba yes
curry no
isiah? flip a coin
wall? yes
hill? hill is a shooting guard, why do people keep mentioning him as a pg?
bledsoe? definitely yes
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