Does the Front Office have the courage to make a big move?

[Phreak50]

More a hypothetical question than anything but I guess with the team struggling (despite our record) to really fit together and also showing signs of struggling in certain positions for the future, I wonder if we have the guts to do something shocking and out of character, if it meant improving the team.

- Would we try to trade Pau and admit it isn't working if we had a decent offer in return?
- Would we end Parker's 'Spur for life' goal and trade him if it landed us something good?
- Was the initially laughable article about a Aldridge trade now a possibility? It is a huge amount of money and years to be invested in someone who is looking more like a role player of late.

Whether or not those moves above are warranted (I do think they are worth exploring tbh) isn't really the question, but my thoughts are that we simply wouldn't even listen to offers for any of those three this season. Which would be disappointing.

[-Sammy-]

The team has long had a 'dance with the one who brung ya' stance on midseason moves, so I think it would have to be a real bunny for them to pull the trigger on an LMA or Parker move-- LMA because it's such an investment and was such a relatively-rare FA victory for this franchise, and Parker because of his legacy in this town (and probably also because his stock isn't particularly high at this point).

I don't think they'd have much of an issue moving Pau; the real issue there is that there probably isn't a trade opportunity that would do much for us. What we're really lacking most is depth and versatility (I think Dedmon could easily slide into the starting spot, and it could prove better for us), so it would have to be to a team who needs a Pau-type and who has two or three pieces that complement our roster. Who fits that description right now?

[Nolan]

The team has long had a 'dance with the one who brung ya' stance on midseason moves, so I think it would have to be a real bunny for them to pull the trigger on an LMA or Parker move-- LMA because it's such an investment and was such a relatively-rare FA victory for this franchise, and Parker because of his legacy in this town (and probably also because his stock isn't particularly high at this point).

I don't think they'd have much of an issue moving Pau; the real issue there is that there probably isn't a trade opportunity that would do much for us. What we're really lacking most is depth and versatility (I think Dedmon could easily slide into the starting spot, and it could prove better for us), so it would have to be to a team who needs a Pau-type and who has two or three pieces that complement our roster. Who fits that description right now?

Well put Sammy. Agree with you on everything.

I feel like RC does listen to offers though. He doesn't strike me as the type to close doors for no reasons.

[jptremblay]

I don't see it so drastically. The team is struggling because our go to go player is still learning his new role so until that finishes we will continue strugling.
I'm fine with this team, except some losses in which ones we lost mainly because we started really cold and without focus by playing against crappy teams at home.
Only one loss concerns me, and it's against LAC at home. Other than that, we are defending really well in clutch moments...And being clutch on offense in closed games...And that's what contenders use to do.
Also, this team have major changes since last season, so it's obviously that they need time to fix and fit together...along with Kawhi improving his role...with Parker assuming his reduced role... it's normal to struggle.

[inDe_eD]

The team has long had a 'dance with the one who brung ya' stance on midseason moves, so I think it would have to be a real bunny for them to pull the trigger on an LMA or Parker move-- LMA because it's such an investment and was such a relatively-rare FA victory for this franchise, and Parker because of his legacy in this town (and probably also because his stock isn't particularly high at this point).

I don't think they'd have much of an issue moving Pau; the real issue there is that there probably isn't a trade opportunity that would do much for us. What we're really lacking most is depth and versatility (I think Dedmon could easily slide into the starting spot, and it could prove better for us), so it would have to be to a team who needs a Pau-type and who has two or three pieces that complement our roster. Who fits that description right now?

Yea, you're exactly right about Pau. Big men are actually not that in demand right now, and so Pau doesn't have a whole lot of trade value. I mean we might be able to get a 2nd rounder and an expiring (maybe), but that doesn't help us talent-wise this year. I think as a player, he could give us value coming off the bench. But that solution is making it sound easier than it really is, as he seems to have a history of being very proud and probably wouldn't deal with getting "demoted" to the bench. I've definitely been critical, but I have faith in Pop to figure it out.

[-Sammy-]

Well, whatever happens, one thing's for certain: we must sound like a bunch of ingrates to the bulk of RealGM, what with our team sitting on the league's #2 record; ha ha.

[Nolan]

Well, whatever happens, one thing's for certain: we must sound like a bunch of ingrates to the bulk of RealGM, what with our team sitting on the league's #2 record; ha ha.

So very very very true.

[Cartuse]

I'd say in case they do they'll wait until 30-35 games into the season. Even if our record was 22-0 we would still be miles below GS's level and in the end that's all that matters with a contending team.

I don't know what will happen in the playoffs, everything is always so unpredictable, but during the regular season, with or without a big move,I'd like to see time (and maybe games) invested into developing the youth. It doesn't make too much sense to go ALL IN during this particular season (with GS having the most absurdly dominating team in recent history) at the expense of future ones. This doesn't mean throwing away the season, because this is still the Spurs and we will still be competitive at the highest level. All I'm saying is perhaps this is the indicated season to pay some more attention to developing players, while throwing them into a winning situation.

[Nolan]

Out of curiosity. Would anyone here even consider dealing LMA?

[jptremblay]

Out of curiosity. Would anyone here even consider dealing LMA?

It would be the best option to retool the team, but this isn't happenning since that would kill our credibility for years to land some big FA.

[inDe_eD]

I'd say in case they do they'll wait until 30-35 games into the season. Even if our record was 22-0 we would still be miles below GS's level and in the end that's all that matters with a contending team.

I don't know what will happen in the playoffs, everything is always so unpredictable, but during the regular season, with or without a big move,I'd like to see time (and maybe games) invested into developing the youth. It doesn't make too much sense to go ALL IN during this particular season (with GS having the most absurdly dominating team in recent history) at the expense of future ones. This doesn't mean throwing away the season, because this is still the Spurs and we will still be competitive at the highest level. All I'm saying is perhaps this is the indicated season to pay some more attention to developing players, while throwing them into a winning situation.

Lots of good points here. As good as he's been, Kawhi is still developing too. He's going to need this whole year figuring out how to lead both the offense and the defense. I'd be happy if we made the playoffs as a 2/3 seed and saw significant development for Bertans/Dedmon/Murray/Simmons.

[inDe_eD]

Out of curiosity. Would anyone here even consider dealing LMA?

The problem with LMA is that his contract doesn't line up with Parker's and Gasol's. It would be really nice to have all those guys expire at the end of next season.

Also, I get that his value is in efficiently hitting the long 2, but I think that's only valuable when you're forced to take the long 2, not when you have to feed him those shots to get him involved. Not to mention that we have Kawhi too, who already solves the problem of having a guy that can hit that shot. To be honest, I've been let down by LMA so far as a fan.

So yea, I would consider it.

[alexb618]

Out of curiosity. Would anyone here even consider dealing LMA?

definitely

send him to sacramento!

[Cycloneon]

A damn shame Marc Gasol decided to stay in Memphis. Would have loved to see him beside Timmy. That defense would have been tremendous alongside Green and Leonard

[Milenkovic]

Out of curiosity. Would anyone here even consider dealing LMA?

Definitely, no idea what we could get for him though.

[Phreak50]

Definitely. I think the 'we landed a big free agent' doesn't mean as much when he isn't playing up to his contract or expectations imo.

If he was a guy you could throw it in to and count on some easy scores sure, but Aldridge's isn't great down low and it's hard to rely on a big guy to shoot jumpers when you need a basket. He barely gets to the foul line either and his rebound numbers are almost pathetic.

I guess the concern would be that trading away a prize get might scare future free agents away. Hence the title of the thread.

[sportscrazy]

The team has long had a 'dance with the one who brung ya' stance on midseason moves, so I think it would have to be a real bunny for them to pull the trigger on an LMA or Parker move-- LMA because it's such an investment and was such a relatively-rare FA victory for this franchise, and Parker because of his legacy in this town (and probably also because his stock isn't particularly high at this point).

I don't think they'd have much of an issue moving Pau; the real issue there is that there probably isn't a trade opportunity that would do much for us. What we're really lacking most is depth and versatility (I think Dedmon could easily slide into the starting spot, and it could prove better for us), so it would have to be to a team who needs a Pau-type and who has two or three pieces that complement our roster. Who fits that description right now?

I could see Phil expressing interest in getting Pau in New York, but don't really see a sensible deal for both sides. Kyle O'Quinn and Lance Thomas do much for you (with two 2017 second rounders (Chicago's and Houston's) if needed)? I don't expect that they would, but if so, who would you include with Pau to make roster spots work?

[Phreak50]

Kyle Anderson says hi

[dalton749]

Cousins for Aldridge

[Nolan]

What about a deal with Denver for LMA?

LMA, Lee and Simmons (or Anderson, Forbes or Lapro) for Faried, Jokic and Murray?