Ex Magic players

[pepe1991]

Since team last few years flipped lot of players I belive it would be interesting to follow their careers to see what are they doing right now.

So here they are ( I'll just post some of them and won't go too far in past )

Moe Harkless, right now injuried. 13 ppg, 5 rpg, 1apg, 49,6%FG, 37% for 3 ( traded for protected second round pick in 2020 )
Channing Frye : 10,4 ppg, 3 rpg,0,7 apg 45% FG, 48% for 3 ( traded Jared Cunningham (from CLE), second-round pick (from POR) )
Tobias Harris : 17ppg, 5 rpg, 2 apg, 48,6%FG, 34% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ilyasova and Jennigns)
Oladipo : 17ppg, 46% FG, 38,6% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ibaka and Sabonis)

Bonus: rookies that never played for Magic, drafted by Magic:
Sabonis: 6,6 ppg, 3,1 rpg, 1,5apg, 46% FG, 43,4% for 3.
Šarić: 10,2ppg, 6rpg, 1,7 apg, 40% FG, 39,7% for 3. Kicker- last 4 games: 17 ppg, 8 rpg , 51%FG, 46% for 3 on 25 mpg.

30 +players:
Nelson: 9.9 ppg, 3rpg, 4,6 apg, 45% FG,38% for 3.
Afflalo : 8,1 ppg,2,5 rpg,1,2 apg, 42% FG, 32,5% for 3


You can add somebody if you want, but this was my quick review of players that Magic had in last few years,who are doing pretty damn well for another team

[OrlChamps2030]

Yea I just saw Harkless' stats the other day and I was quite surprised. I'm happy for him. He is a great fit on the Blazers and has become a good player on both ends.

Crazy despite how disappointing Maurice's was with the Magic at times, Mario has somehow managed to disappoint even more. Right now Mario looks like a poor man's Harkless without the defense or super athletic plays that happen every couple of games that give you glimpses of hope. Maurice is only two years older as well..

[Nemesis21]

I don't miss any of them.

[tiderulz]

Since team last few years flipped lot of players I belive it would be interesting to follow their careers to see what are they doing right now.

So here they are ( I'll just post some of them and won't go too far in past )

Moe Harkless, right now injuried. 13 ppg, 5 rpg, 1apg, 49,6%FG, 37% for 3 ( traded for protected second round pick in 2020 )
Channing Frye : 10,4 ppg, 3 rpg,0,7 apg 45% FG, 48% for 3 ( traded Jared Cunningham (from CLE), second-round pick (from POR) )
Tobias Harris : 17ppg, 5 rpg, 2 apg, 48,6%FG, 34% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ilyasova and Jennigns)
Oladipo : 17ppg, 46% FG, 38,6% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ibaka and Sabonis)

Bonus: rookies that never played for Magic, drafted by Magic:
Sabonis: 6,6 ppg, 3,1 rpg, 1,5apg, 46% FG, 43,4% for 3.
Šarić: 10,2ppg, 6rpg, 1,7 apg, 40% FG, 39,7% for 3. Kicker- last 4 games: 17 ppg, 8 rpg , 51%FG, 46% for 3 on 25 mpg.

30 +players:
Nelson: 9.9 ppg, 3rpg, 4,6 apg, 45% FG,38% for 3.
Afflalo : 8,1 ppg,2,5 rpg,1,2 apg, 42% FG, 32,5% for 3


You can add somebody if you want, but this was my quick review of players that Magic had in last few years,who are doing pretty damn well for another team

we traded the #11 pick, OKC chose Sabonis (even if we had to make the choice first). So Sabonis may never have been our choice of player at 11, so you cant quite make that reference. Same with Saric, that wasnt our choice for player. It might just have been Wade Baldwin and Zach Lavine

[tiderulz]

:talkhand: I don't miss any of them.

this is how i feel. Players had opportunities to make it work here and it just didnt work out.

[Nemesis21]

:talkhand: I don't miss any of them.

this is how i feel. Players had opportunities to make it work here and it just didnt work out.

Same here. This could have went in NEM's fire everybody thread. IMO this thread by OP, is just another tactic to bash Hennigan. All those players were given opportunities here, it simply didn't work out. They are no longer here, no need for others to keep bringing them up.

[Statlanta]

OP didn't mention the fan favorites like Dewayne Dedmon or Andrew Nicholson even though both are role players.

Also if you mention Afflalo and Jameer you gotta mention at least J.J. who suprisingly went 0-fer going against his modern counterpart on ESPN on Wednesday

Even missed the GOAT Jason "Midrange Gawd" Smith

[OrlDave]

Yeah I don't care about Harkless. His ceiling is still Trevor Ariza. Dipo and Harris are doing about what they did here. They are both a little bit more efficient scorers now, but it's not like they have blossomed into superstars despite increased roles. I wish we have received more back for Harris, but beyond that meh.

[BadMofoPimp]

Since team last few years flipped lot of players I belive it would be interesting to follow their careers to see what are they doing right now.

So here they are ( I'll just post some of them and won't go too far in past )

Moe Harkless, right now injuried. 13 ppg, 5 rpg, 1apg, 49,6%FG, 37% for 3 ( traded for protected second round pick in 2020 )
Channing Frye : 10,4 ppg, 3 rpg,0,7 apg 45% FG, 48% for 3 ( traded Jared Cunningham (from CLE), second-round pick (from POR) )
Tobias Harris : 17ppg, 5 rpg, 2 apg, 48,6%FG, 34% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ilyasova and Jennigns)
Oladipo : 17ppg, 46% FG, 38,6% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ibaka and Sabonis)

Bonus: rookies that never played for Magic, drafted by Magic:
Sabonis: 6,6 ppg, 3,1 rpg, 1,5apg, 46% FG, 43,4% for 3.
Šarić: 10,2ppg, 6rpg, 1,7 apg, 40% FG, 39,7% for 3. Kicker- last 4 games: 17 ppg, 8 rpg , 51%FG, 46% for 3 on 25 mpg.

30 +players:
Nelson: 9.9 ppg, 3rpg, 4,6 apg, 45% FG,38% for 3.
Afflalo : 8,1 ppg,2,5 rpg,1,2 apg, 42% FG, 32,5% for 3


You can add somebody if you want, but this was my quick review of players that Magic had in last few years,who are doing pretty damn well for another team

So essentially, Magic ended up with Ibaka for Harkless, Frye, Harris, Dipo, Sabonis and 2 second rounders.

[pepe1991]

Since team last few years flipped lot of players I belive it would be interesting to follow their careers to see what are they doing right now.

So here they are ( I'll just post some of them and won't go too far in past )

Moe Harkless, right now injuried. 13 ppg, 5 rpg, 1apg, 49,6%FG, 37% for 3 ( traded for protected second round pick in 2020 )
Channing Frye : 10,4 ppg, 3 rpg,0,7 apg 45% FG, 48% for 3 ( traded Jared Cunningham (from CLE), second-round pick (from POR) )
Tobias Harris : 17ppg, 5 rpg, 2 apg, 48,6%FG, 34% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ilyasova and Jennigns)
Oladipo : 17ppg, 46% FG, 38,6% for 3, highest TS% in career ( traded for Ibaka and Sabonis)

Bonus: rookies that never played for Magic, drafted by Magic:
Sabonis: 6,6 ppg, 3,1 rpg, 1,5apg, 46% FG, 43,4% for 3.
Šarić: 10,2ppg, 6rpg, 1,7 apg, 40% FG, 39,7% for 3. Kicker- last 4 games: 17 ppg, 8 rpg , 51%FG, 46% for 3 on 25 mpg.

30 +players:
Nelson: 9.9 ppg, 3rpg, 4,6 apg, 45% FG,38% for 3.
Afflalo : 8,1 ppg,2,5 rpg,1,2 apg, 42% FG, 32,5% for 3


You can add somebody if you want, but this was my quick review of players that Magic had in last few years,who are doing pretty damn well for another team

So essentially, Magic ended up with Ibaka for Harkless, Frye, Harris, Dipo, Sabonis and 2 second rounders.

True, because they got nothing for Harris and second round picks that are most of time worthless

[pepe1991]

OP didn't mention the fan favorites like Dewayne Dedmon or Andrew Nicholson even though both are role players.

Also if you mention Afflalo and Jameer you gotta mention at least J.J. who suprisingly went 0-fer going against his modern counterpart on ESPN on Wednesday

Even missed the GOAT Jason "Midrange Gawd" Smith

Dedmon is doing good with Spurs, Andrew didn't really work well for Wizards ,at least not yet. And JJ changed two teams since his Orlando run ( Bucks , Clippers) . He still is one of most effective SGs and one of most productive catch and shoot guys in NBA. 15ppg on 63% TS. Crazy.
I didn't mention O'Quinn, Jason Smith, Fat Baby ( is he retired tho? He didn't play anywhere for over a year ) and many others. Just few names that Magic had, or could have in past few seasons. Nelson was huge for Magic and Afflalo was solid for Magic so i gave them "honorable 30 + mention"

[pepe1991]

Yeah I don't care about Harkless. His ceiling is still Trevor Ariza. Dipo and Harris are doing about what they did here. They are both a little bit more efficient scorers now, but it's not like they have blossomed into superstars despite increased roles. I wish we have received more back for Harris, but beyond that meh.

Interesting, people here talking about Otto Porter like he is new Lebron when it comes to trade ideas, and still talk down about Harkless, and if you look at their numbers, Otto is bit better but Otto is going to get max by some team and Harkless is on $8,8 M per year deal. Diffference? 2 rebounds and 1 ppg more. I don't think that Porter will keep his 40,8% shooting from long range. His production started to go down already.

Also, interesting enough, Porter had 2 awful first years. About that time team gave up on Harkless and now in about that time team is giving up on Hezonja. Wizards never gave up on him, even playing him with Paul Pierce around and now it's finally paying off for them. On other side Harkless is starter on playoff team on West ,Harris on east. Team moved them away for grand total of one 2020 second round protected pick. And Magic are playing Jeff Green as part time tarter at SF.

[Nemesis21]

Yeah I don't care about Harkless. His ceiling is still Trevor Ariza. Dipo and Harris are doing about what they did here. They are both a little bit more efficient scorers now, but it's not like they have blossomed into superstars despite increased roles. I wish we have received more back for Harris, but beyond that meh.

Interesting, people here talking about Otto Porter like he is new Lebron when it comes to trade ideas, and still talk down about Harkless, and if you look at their numbers, Otto is bit better but Otto is going to get max by some team and Harkless is on $8,8 M per year deal. Diffference? 2 rebounds and 1 ppg more. I don't think that Porter will keep his 40,8% shooting from long range. His production started to go down already.

Also, interesting enough, Porter had 2 awful first years. About that time team gave up on Harkless and now in about that time team is giving up on Hezonja. Wizards never gave up on him, even playing him with Paul Pierce around and now it's finally paying off for them. On other side Harkless is starter on playoff team on West ,Harris on east. Team moved them away for grand total of one 2020 second round protected pick. And Magic are playing Jeff Green as part time tarter at SF.

That is false, no one ever said that. Harkless has had several awful years, don't act like he has been good since he got to Portland. Porter has had 2 seasons where he avg'd more than 10ppg, Harkless has had 1(this season, 23 games in). Harkless has been in the league 1 yr longer. I'll take Porter's 36% 3pt career percentage over Harkless 31%.

[3ddman23]

Only player I miss is jameer. Wish he would have retired a lifer for the magic. Probably would have been our first retired number if he did.

[pepe1991]

Yeah I don't care about Harkless. His ceiling is still Trevor Ariza. Dipo and Harris are doing about what they did here. They are both a little bit more efficient scorers now, but it's not like they have blossomed into superstars despite increased roles. I wish we have received more back for Harris, but beyond that meh.

Interesting, people here talking about Otto Porter like he is new Lebron when it comes to trade ideas, and still talk down about Harkless, and if you look at their numbers, Otto is bit better but Otto is going to get max by some team and Harkless is on $8,8 M per year deal. Diffference? 2 rebounds and 1 ppg more. I don't think that Porter will keep his 40,8% shooting from long range. His production started to go down already.

Also, interesting enough, Porter had 2 awful first years. About that time team gave up on Harkless and now in about that time team is giving up on Hezonja. Wizards never gave up on him, even playing him with Paul Pierce around and now it's finally paying off for them. On other side Harkless is starter on playoff team on West ,Harris on east. Team moved them away for grand total of one 2020 second round protected pick. And Magic are playing Jeff Green as part time tarter at SF.

That is false, no one ever said that. Harkless has had several awful years, don't act like he has been good since he got to Portland. Porter has had 2 seasons where he avg'd more than 10ppg, Harkless has had 1(this season, 23 games in). Harkless has been in the league 1 yr longer. I'll take Porter's 36% 3pt career percentage over Harkless 31%.

Not so fast my internet friend.
Mo Harkless has one more season over Porter but they are about the same age. (23). Porter started to produce in double digits last year because he got 30 mpg. Harkless last year had 18 mpg for 6,4 ppg, in other words, if you expend his production on PER 36 he was already posting around 12,3 ppg ( Porter PER 36 last year 13,8). This year, PER 36, Harkless is averaging more points than Otto ( not by much , but pretty much all their stats are similar ).

People just love to trow that "he is 3D like Ariza" to players. Like it's bad thing to be new Ariza. Dude has championship ring, made lot of money and his defense was always underrated.
I get that he didn't work for Magic and they let him go, however i'm salty when i see third best player on Blazers that Magic traded for less than nothing. That 2020 protected second rounder is insult .

[pepe1991]

Only player I miss is jameer. Wish he would have retired a lifer for the magic. Probably would have been our first retired number if he did.

Watched him vs Nets. Still plays with soo much heart.

[BadMofoPimp]

Yeah I don't care about Harkless. His ceiling is still Trevor Ariza. Dipo and Harris are doing about what they did here. They are both a little bit more efficient scorers now, but it's not like they have blossomed into superstars despite increased roles. I wish we have received more back for Harris, but beyond that meh.

Interesting, people here talking about Otto Porter like he is new Lebron when it comes to trade ideas, and still talk down about Harkless, and if you look at their numbers, Otto is bit better but Otto is going to get max by some team and Harkless is on $8,8 M per year deal. Diffference? 2 rebounds and 1 ppg more. I don't think that Porter will keep his 40,8% shooting from long range. His production started to go down already.

Also, interesting enough, Porter had 2 awful first years. About that time team gave up on Harkless and now in about that time team is giving up on Hezonja. Wizards never gave up on him, even playing him with Paul Pierce around and now it's finally paying off for them. On other side Harkless is starter on playoff team on West ,Harris on east. Team moved them away for grand total of one 2020 second round protected pick. And Magic are playing Jeff Green as part time tarter at SF.

That is false, no one ever said that. Harkless has had several awful years, don't act like he has been good since he got to Portland. Porter has had 2 seasons where he avg'd more than 10ppg, Harkless has had 1(this season, 23 games in). Harkless has been in the league 1 yr longer. I'll take Porter's 36% 3pt career percentage over Harkless 31%.

So, you would rather have Porter at $20 mil plus per year than an $8.8 mil Harkless?

[Nemesis21]

Interesting, people here talking about Otto Porter like he is new Lebron when it comes to trade ideas, and still talk down about Harkless, and if you look at their numbers, Otto is bit better but Otto is going to get max by some team and Harkless is on $8,8 M per year deal. Diffference? 2 rebounds and 1 ppg more. I don't think that Porter will keep his 40,8% shooting from long range. His production started to go down already.

Also, interesting enough, Porter had 2 awful first years. About that time team gave up on Harkless and now in about that time team is giving up on Hezonja. Wizards never gave up on him, even playing him with Paul Pierce around and now it's finally paying off for them. On other side Harkless is starter on playoff team on West ,Harris on east. Team moved them away for grand total of one 2020 second round protected pick. And Magic are playing Jeff Green as part time tarter at SF.

That is false, no one ever said that. Harkless has had several awful years, don't act like he has been good since he got to Portland. Porter has had 2 seasons where he avg'd more than 10ppg, Harkless has had 1(this season, 23 games in). Harkless has been in the league 1 yr longer. I'll take Porter's 36% 3pt career percentage over Harkless 31%.

So, you would rather have Porter at $20 mil plus per year than an $8.8 mil Harkless?

I didn't say that. I don't think Porter will get the max, probably something like Dipo and Evan got. Regardless of contract, I'd take Porter because he is still improving and still has potential. Whereas Harkless is pretty much the same player he was when here.

[OrlChamps2030]

I really don't understand how people are comparing Ariza to Harkless and acting like that's a negative thing?? Ariza was a key role player on a championship team. He would have been even more of a beast in this pace and space era.

[OrlDave]

Interesting, people here talking about Otto Porter like he is new Lebron when it comes to trade ideas, and still talk down about Harkless, and if you look at their numbers, Otto is bit better but Otto is going to get max by some team and Harkless is on $8,8 M per year deal. Diffference? 2 rebounds and 1 ppg more. I don't think that Porter will keep his 40,8% shooting from long range. His production started to go down already.

Also, interesting enough, Porter had 2 awful first years. About that time team gave up on Harkless and now in about that time team is giving up on Hezonja. Wizards never gave up on him, even playing him with Paul Pierce around and now it's finally paying off for them. On other side Harkless is starter on playoff team on West ,Harris on east. Team moved them away for grand total of one 2020 second round protected pick. And Magic are playing Jeff Green as part time tarter at SF.

That is false, no one ever said that. Harkless has had several awful years, don't act like he has been good since he got to Portland. Porter has had 2 seasons where he avg'd more than 10ppg, Harkless has had 1(this season, 23 games in). Harkless has been in the league 1 yr longer. I'll take Porter's 36% 3pt career percentage over Harkless 31%.

So, you would rather have Porter at $20 mil plus per year than an $8.8 mil Harkless?

I don't really want either of them. Is that an option? But at least Porter can hit the 3. All Harkless would do is add to our shooting woes (yes I know he's shooting well so far, but small sample size). Also, who says Porter is the next Lebron (this is to pepe ofc)? Lebron as an 18 year old rookie is better than Porter is today. There is no comparison between the two guys. If a team gives him the max I have no idea what that team is smoking.