Season Speculation, Trade Ideas and Discussion

[Tysons Elbow]

^ I agree, not to mention the fact that the offense would be so much easier on the eyes. Even when Bledsoe is fully healthy and playing well, like he is now, he just doesn't make his teammates better. A rebuilding team needs a point guard willing to consistently set up easy buckets for the young guys, and not just play for his own stats.

So much this!!! The good does not outweigh the bad with Bledsoe for THIS team. We need someone to distribute the ball better. Like I said earlier. I like him as a player. Just not as a point guard. Especially OUR starting point guard.


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[Fo-Real]

I don't think he is better, but it is just more fun to watch when Ulis is in the game. Better ball movement, and he is just so easy to root for.

[thamadkant]

Bledsoe is a tremendous player.

But 3 years of watching him... Its clear to me anyways... That he isnt a good consistent floor general. Heck Harden has surpassed him this season as a distributor.


Second... Watson and his terrible coaching and system.


Defense? Tempo? Offense?
More like Isolation.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Bledsoe is a tremendous player.

But 3 years of watching him... Its clear to me anyways... That he isnt a good consistent floor general. Heck Harden has surpassed him this season as a distributor.


Second... Watson and his terrible coaching and system.


Defense? Tempo? Offense?
More like Isolation.

Not his fault, imo. Our only scorers are guards. What are we supposed to do, utilize Bledsoe-Booker P&Rs?

How useful would prime Amare be on this squad?

[Safety Pickle]

Bledsoe is a tremendous player.

But 3 years of watching him... Its clear to me anyways... That he isnt a good consistent floor general. Heck Harden has surpassed him this season as a distributor.


Second... Watson and his terrible coaching and system.


Defense? Tempo? Offense?
More like Isolation.

To be fair, Harden has always been a good passer. His assist numbers have trended up every years he's been in the league

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I really do feel that Milwaukee is the best place for Bledsoe. Put a scoring bulldog at the 1 next to Giannis? Man. The Bucks should be all over that. I just don't know what they have that they'd be willing to give up. Future draft picks from them just don't look that good, given their trajectory. The only non-essential young talent on their roster is Thon Maker, whom we passed on for Chriss, but whom I would accept as the foundation of a deal. Monroe, Maker, maybe Henson, and two future 1sts for Bledsoe, Tucker and maybe Chandler.

All I want for Christmas is Tyler Ulis. Blow. It. Up.

[TeamTragic]

Bledsoe is a tremendous player.

But 3 years of watching him... Its clear to me anyways... That he isnt a good consistent floor general. Heck Harden has surpassed him this season as a distributor.


Second... Watson and his terrible coaching and system.


Defense? Tempo? Offense?
More like Isolation.

Not his fault, imo. Our only scorers are guards. What are we supposed to do, utilize Bledsoe-Booker P&Rs?

How useful would prime Amare be on this squad?

We need a proper big man in the middle. No offense to Chandler.

[thamadkant]

I really do feel that Milwaukee is the best place for Bledsoe. Put a scoring bulldog at the 1 next to Giannis? Man. The Bucks should be all over that. I just don't know what they have that they'd be willing to give up. Future draft picks from them just don't look that good, given their trajectory. The only non-essential young talent on their roster is Thon Maker, whom we passed on for Chriss, but whom I would accept as the foundation of a deal. Monroe, Maker, maybe Henson, and two future 1sts for Bledsoe, Tucker and maybe Chandler.

All I want for Christmas is Tyler Ulis. Blow. It. Up.

Rockets have terrible offensive front court players.
Harden averages 12 assists a game and 27 points too.

Bledsoe just doesnt have the vision and timing. He passes a second late or early. And Watson does not remedy players like Tucker passing on open shots to dribble inside the key.. Its crap basketball... Ugly to watch and results show how bad the team plays most nights. Even the wins require the other teams play worse.

Bledsoe loves his iso one on one... I know he is called Mini-Lebron..but one thing Lebron does marvelously is pass the ball creatively and without hesitation... He is 50/50 a scorer and a play maker... Bledsoe is 65 percent scorer 35 percent "passer".. Yup not even a play maker by nature. Hence he played SG next Wall at Kentucky.

Booker has better facilitating skills than Bledsoe... But he is being developed as an all rounder at the moment which has taken some toll on his shooting. He is skilled enough to be developed two ways IMO... As a Klay Thompson clone/Rich man's Reddick/Allan Houston / Michael Redd
.. Catch and shoot spot up sniper... Or a do it all player offensively like Gordon Hayward and James Harden.

Watson looks like he is pushing Booker towards the Harden and Hayward role. But he is competing with Bledsoe and Knight for ball handling roles to get there IMO.

Hence... If Suns wants to keep Bledsoe... They need to solidify Booker as the primary facilitator... And they need a dominant inside scorer to give open lanes for both Booker and Bledsoe...


Back to Watson... He has been terrible.
I mean... I do not see Suns having an identity still...

The only remarkable stat is the Suns are the highest scoring team that has the lowest assists numbers... Which indicate isolation plays and players scoring off scrappy broken offensive sets.

[TeamTragic]

I agree with you guys. Absolutely love Bledsoe. If we can't land a star that compliments his play then we should trade him.

[OGBAH]

Who wants to play with ISO hero ball guy

[thamadkant]

Eric Bledsoe, Chandler for Jrue Holiday, Asik, lottery protected pick?

[OGBAH]

No

[bwgood77]

Why is everyone talking about trading Bledsoe after a game like that? Sure I'd like a superstar pure passer hall of famer point guard but they don't grow on trees.

Neither do players like Bledsoe. And he did have 9 assists tonight to 1 turnover. Obviously that won't be the norm but give the guy some props.

I seriously doubt we are going to trade him, at least any time soon. There are no signs that point to that.

[RaisingArizona]

Westbrook like game tonight from Bled. Wish he brought that every night. Was fun to watch.

[kennydorglas]

Westbrook like game tonight from Bled. Wish he brought that every night. Was fun to watch.

Just put in perspective about how much consistency is required to put stats like Westbrook does.
I dont even like him as a player, but dear god... he brings it in EVERY GAME.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Why is everyone talking about trading Bledsoe after a game like that? Sure I'd like a superstar pure passer hall of famer point guard but they don't grow on trees.

Neither do players like Bledsoe. And he did have 9 assists tonight to 1 turnover. Obviously that won't be the norm but give the guy some props.

I seriously doubt we are going to trade him, at least any time soon. There are no signs that point to that.

I vacillate between wanting to trade all the vets and trying to build a competitive squad, based on recent wins and losses. A bunch of bad wins to bad teams gives one reason to want to throw in the towel and try to add another piece. A couple wins and you start to think that maybe you can start your ascension. As we all know, the worst spot to be in is the middle, and it's easier to tank than it is win games. You don't want to try to win and fail.

Let's see what happens Sunday.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The wolves want some defense and leadership I flip tucker to them for Shabazz Muhammad. Hes probably a bust but hell id kick the tires on him for 60 games and added bonus of not having to watch tucker play 40 mins.

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[Barkley_34]

Why is everyone talking about trading Bledsoe after a game like that? Sure I'd like a superstar pure passer hall of famer point guard but they don't grow on trees.

Neither do players like Bledsoe. And he did have 9 assists tonight to 1 turnover. Obviously that won't be the norm but give the guy some props.

I seriously doubt we are going to trade him, at least any time soon. There are no signs that point to that.

Nice Post. Bledsoe is not the problem. He has 27 years old ... Nash for example ... played at his peak with more age. I think he can improve a lot, especially in assists, when the young gaining more experience and improving the offensive game. He has improved too much on the turnovers issue. With every game I see, I believe that our game system and the lack of another player with ability in the paint is what is missing.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The $100 million dollar question with bledsoe is even if hes healthy the next 2 years if do you trust his knees to hold up enough to give him a big deal at 30? If the answer is no then they should absolutely explore trade options over the next 12 months. Thats when his value will be highest because teams would get him for multiple years. Im not suggesting they give him away but if a good package was on the table it would be maximizing an asset. The worst thing to do is wait too long and either lose him for nothing right when the young guys are starting to come into their own or deal him in the final year of his deal when his value is lower.

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[Zelaznyrules]

The $100 million dollar question with bledsoe is even if hes healthy the next 2 years if do you trust his knees to hold up enough to give him a big deal at 30? If the answer is no then they should absolutely explore trade options over the next 12 months. Thats when his value will be highest because teams would get him for multiple years. Im not suggesting they give him away but if a good package was on the table it would be maximizing an asset. The worst thing to do is wait too long and either lose him for nothing right when the young guys are starting to come into their own or deal him in the final year of his deal when his value is lower.

I agree with this. I'm not displeased by Eric's play in any way. He started the season slow but that's to be expected given he was coming back from a season lost to injury. But this idea that we are losing because we don't have a pass first guard really perplexes me. If there's a point guard out there that can turn Tucker, Chriss, Knight, Dudley, Chandler and Len into solid scorers, I haven't seen him. Sure, Chandler used to be a little more effective but this Tyson is not the Tyson of 5 years ago. He's still effective but he's slower to react and less mobile than prime Chandler. And not even prime Nash is going to make Tucker a threat. But we can't take the risk of re-signing him to a major contract so move him now before it starts to look like a "must sell" situation.