2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread

[Unbreakable99]

Lonzo is BALLin. See what I did there? I love him. The only knock on him at this point is he doesn't drive enough. He stands around and shoots threes. He doesn't even look to drive to score and the few times he does it's to kick it out to a teammate.

[76thBearCub]

Lonzo is BALLin. See what I did there? I love him. The only knock on him at this point is he doesn't drive enough. He stands around and shoots threes. He doesn't even look to drive to score and the few times he does it's to kick it out to a teammate.

Sounds like the perfect fit with Simmons and Embiid.

[Ericb5]

Lonzo is BALLin. See what I did there? I love him. The only knock on him at this point is he doesn't drive enough. He stands around and shoots threes. He doesn't even look to drive to score and the few times he does it's to kick it out to a teammate.

Sounds like the perfect fit with Simmons and Embiid.

I'm moving him to the top of my wishlist at least for this team. He would be a great secondary ball handler, and just imagine him and Simmons both acting as post feeders for Embiid.

He seems to naturally know how to play off of the ball. I wouldn't call him a shooting guard per se, but he is like a point guard that can play off of the ball.


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[Ericb5]

Lonzo is BALLin. See what I did there? I love him. The only knock on him at this point is he doesn't drive enough. He stands around and shoots threes. He doesn't even look to drive to score and the few times he does it's to kick it out to a teammate.

He isn't a scorer. He is a shooter, and a facilitator.

Wonder if he could learn to slash though.


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[Ericb5]

He is also big enough to easily guard the 2, so you could pair him with a 6'0 scoring type of guard like a Lou Williams/Isaiah Thomas type.


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[SelfishPlayer]

Ball's shooting form is different than any I have ever seen, but he is deadly from deep.

No coach would teach it that way, but no coach should try to get him to change it either.


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Guys shoot like that, usually not the ones that make it to high level college basketball. Kevin Martin has a similar shooting stroke and people talked about it throughout his entire NBA career. I believe that it's limiting in comparison to a traditional stroke, but he gets it off super fast so that's it's own advantage.

i think that I just figured out one of the reasons why that style of shooting is limiting, does Lonzo Ball ever shoot off the dribble while going to his right hand?

[LongLiveHinkie]

I like Lonzo Ball, but I'm sorry I just can't ignore that shooting form. I don't care if he is shooting 90% from downtown in college, logic tells me he won't continue to maintain his current percentage with that form, or at least won't maintain it at the NBA level.

Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'm certainly not betting my future on it if we get the #1 pick, that's for sure. This is a loaded draft, I'm not taking a dude who shoots like that #1. If we are picking 4 or 5 I'll say take the chance, but not #1.

And for the record I wouldn't take Josh Jackson #1 either. His shooting form is even worse. Dude double clutches and shoots from his throat. Having to watch that for 5-10 years as a Sixers fan will basically drive me to become bulimic, because I'd be constantly vomiting every time I watched him shoot.

[Ericb5]

I like Lonzo Ball, but I'm sorry I just can't ignore that shooting form. I don't care if he is shooting 90% from downtown in college, logic tells me he won't continue to maintain his current percentage with that form, or at least won't maintain it at the NBA level.

Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'm certainly not betting my future on it if we get the #1 pick, that's for sure. This is a loaded draft, I'm not taking a dude who shoots like that #1. If we are picking 4 or 5 I'll say take the chance, but not #1.

And for the record I wouldn't take Josh Jackson #1 either. His shooting form is even worse. Dude double clutches and shoots from his throat. Having to watch that for 5-10 years as a Sixers fan will basically drive me to become bulimic, because I'd be constantly vomiting every time I watched him shoot.

Remember that we already have two future stars, and our 2017 pick doesn't need to be someone to build around. They just need to be someone that compliments our stars.

Ball won't be expected to score 25 points a game. Embiid will be our leading scorer most likely no matter who we draft.

Ball is looking like a pretty great compliment though. I wouldn't be disappointed with Fultz or Jackson either, but Ball might be the best compliment. If he can just hit open shots then he could be perfect for us.


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[eagereyez]

I like Lonzo Ball, but I'm sorry I just can't ignore that shooting form. I don't care if he is shooting 90% from downtown in college, logic tells me he won't continue to maintain his current percentage with that form, or at least won't maintain it at the NBA level.

Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'm certainly not betting my future on it if we get the #1 pick, that's for sure. This is a loaded draft, I'm not taking a dude who shoots like that #1. If we are picking 4 or 5 I'll say take the chance, but not #1.

And for the record I wouldn't take Josh Jackson #1 either. His shooting form is even worse. Dude double clutches and shoots from his throat. Having to watch that for 5-10 years as a Sixers fan will basically drive me to become bulimic, because I'd be constantly vomiting every time I watched him shoot.

Remember that we already have two future stars, and our 2017 pick doesn't need to be someone to build around. They just need to be someone that compliments our stars.

Ball won't be expected to score 25 points a game. Embiid will be our leading scorer most likely no matter who we draft.

Ball is looking like a pretty great compliment though. I wouldn't be disappointed with Fultz or Jackson either, but Ball might be the best compliment. If he can just hit open shots then he could be perfect for us.


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Complement. A compliment is when you give praise to someone. I've seen this word misused so often that it's beginning to make my eye twitch.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I like Lonzo Ball, but I'm sorry I just can't ignore that shooting form. I don't care if he is shooting 90% from downtown in college, logic tells me he won't continue to maintain his current percentage with that form, or at least won't maintain it at the NBA level.

Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I'm certainly not betting my future on it if we get the #1 pick, that's for sure. This is a loaded draft, I'm not taking a dude who shoots like that #1. If we are picking 4 or 5 I'll say take the chance, but not #1.

And for the record I wouldn't take Josh Jackson #1 either. His shooting form is even worse. Dude double clutches and shoots from his throat. Having to watch that for 5-10 years as a Sixers fan will basically drive me to become bulimic, because I'd be constantly vomiting every time I watched him shoot.

Remember that we already have two future stars, and our 2017 pick doesn't need to be someone to build around. They just need to be someone that compliments our stars.

Ball won't be expected to score 25 points a game. Embiid will be our leading scorer most likely no matter who we draft.

Ball is looking like a pretty great compliment though. I wouldn't be disappointed with Fultz or Jackson either, but Ball might be the best compliment. If he can just hit open shots then he could be perfect for us.


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If we are picking top 5, I want another future star. You can never have enough, I don't care how good you are. The Warriors thought 3 wasn't enough, went out and got a 4th. Give me the guy with the absolute best chance of being a superstar. Always and forever. You can add ancillary pieces with the other picks or via free agency. And maybe Ball will be a superstar, and if he is, great.

[Unbreakable99]

Lonzo is BALLin. See what I did there? I love him. The only knock on him at this point is he doesn't drive enough. He stands around and shoots threes. He doesn't even look to drive to score and the few times he does it's to kick it out to a teammate.

Sounds like the perfect fit with Simmons and Embiid.

I get that but I don't want a one dimensional scorer. I want him to have multiple ways to score in the half court. Like I said I still love him but him hardly driving is somewhat a concern. The more offensive arsenals you have the better. He seems to have the handles and athleticism to drive because he does it from time to time to setup his teammates. I'd just like him to drive to score to add to his game.

[SelfishPlayer]

Lonzo Ball is the recipient of a great deal of hype. In the Kentucky vs UCLA game where he went up against NBA level athletes, they exposed his weaknesses.

[Marcus]

Lonzo Ball is the recipient of a great deal of hype. In the Kentucky vs UCLA game where he went up against NBA level athletes, they exposed his weaknesses.

Which are?

[No-Man]

Ball would be nice with the Lakers pick if he's available, but there is no way I am drafting him top5.
If the 76ers end up with the 2nd pick or so, they better pick Josh Jackson, I am not all that on board with Fultz fitting with Simmons, esp if you want Ben as a primary, but they might be able to mix their games, if Embiid goes down a big deal on usg%.

Anyway Josh, other than shooting woes that I believe workable, it's basically everything Philly needs.

[cksdayoff]

josh jackson potentially gives you the best defensive frontcourt in the nba

[LloydFree]

Ball would be nice with the Lakers pick if he's available, but there is no way I am drafting him top5.
If the 76ers end up with the 2nd pick or so, they better pick Josh Jackson, I am not all that on board with Fultz fitting with Simmons, esp if you want Ben as a primary, but they might be able to mix their games, if Embiid goes down a big deal on usg%.

Anyway Josh, other than shooting woes that I believe workable, it's basically everything Philly needs.

Aren't you the guy who also said Jahlil Okafor was far and away the best prospect in the 2015 draft and continued that long after the draft? Said Karl Towns wasn't worthy of a top 3 pick? I don't think the 76ers should listen to your suggestions anymore. Hinkie lost his job the last time.

[phifans]

Ball would be nice with the Lakers pick if he's available, but there is no way I am drafting him top5.
If the 76ers end up with the 2nd pick or so, they better pick Josh Jackson, I am not all that on board with Fultz fitting with Simmons, esp if you want Ben as a primary, but they might be able to mix their games, if Embiid goes down a big deal on usg%.

Anyway Josh, other than shooting woes that I believe workable, it's basically everything Philly needs.

Aren't you the guy who also said Jahlil Okafor was far and away the best prospect in the 2015 draft and continued that long after the draft? I don't think the 76ers should listen to your suggestions anymore. Hinkie lost his job the last time.

You've been right on everything you suggested here before ?

[LloydFree]

Ball would be nice with the Lakers pick if he's available, but there is no way I am drafting him top5.
If the 76ers end up with the 2nd pick or so, they better pick Josh Jackson, I am not all that on board with Fultz fitting with Simmons, esp if you want Ben as a primary, but they might be able to mix their games, if Embiid goes down a big deal on usg%.

Anyway Josh, other than shooting woes that I believe workable, it's basically everything Philly needs.

Aren't you the guy who also said Jahlil Okafor was far and away the best prospect in the 2015 draft and continued that long after the draft? I don't think the 76ers should listen to your suggestions anymore. Hinkie lost his job the last time.

You've been right on everything you suggested here before ?

It's in my sig...

[phifans]

Aren't you the guy who also said Jahlil Okafor was far and away the best prospect in the 2015 draft and continued that long after the draft? I don't think the 76ers should listen to your suggestions anymore. Hinkie lost his job the last time.

You've been right on everything you suggested here before ?

It's in my sig...

LoL so sarcasm !!

[LloydFree]

I saw Jason Kidd play in college. Lonzo Ball is basically a slightly less quick Jason Kidd, who jumps higher and has range to 30 feet.