Haweswitdaball da bang a dang diggy diggy - The Spencer Hawes Thread

Post #101 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:27 pm

Hawes is a riot

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Post #102 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:46 pm

Ha, with the DX shirt.

HornetJail · Post #103 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:15 am

lmao

Might almost be worth keeping him on the roster to see him grow out some dreads that would fit really well on a late 90s early 2000s nu metal band :lol:

spaceballer · Post #104 » by **spaceballer** » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:46 am

Hawes practicing with JLin and Nick Collison out west.

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Braggins · Post #105 » by **Braggins** » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:19 am

My hatred for Hawes has come full circle and now hes pretty much my favorite player (ironically). I always had a bad feeling this would happen.

Post #106 » by **fatlever** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:02 pm

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/spencer-hawes-politics-right-wing-republican-donald-trump-lebron-james-hillary-clinton-endorsement/1o5wu8p59ziqm1ghx19ts70ulb

Hawes talks politics.

SN: With this election being so divisive, how has that been for you, in the locker room and in your life in general?

Hawes: I still — I didn't endorse anybody in the primary, I still haven't endorsed anybody. Safe to say I will not be endorsing anybody. But it's frustrating. It's frustrating when you look at both sides. We've had eight years to get two candidates together to try to move forward and try to improve on things, and we literally picked the two people that could only lose to each other. That's who we have running in our general election to be president of the United States. It's pretty disgusting.

SN: One of the interesting twists this year is that the best player in the NBA came right out and said, "Vote for Hillary." Did that feel uncomfortable to you?

Hawes: No, I like it. Obviously, I don't agree with LeBron there. And that's fine. But the ability to not agree and put that in one compartment and not judge someone's entire character based on how they view the world or what their political beliefs are, that's what makes us great. So yeah, I disagree with LeBron. I would love to have a discussion with him or anybody that wants to talk about it. But at the end of the day, there's two parties, there's two ways of doing things. Each one has been in power many times over again, and we're still where we are.

SN: Those discussions. In the locker room, is it coming up more now?

Hawes: Yeah, I think so. I think the publicity — every four years, there's a ton of publicity. The thing that frustrates me on both sides are the generalizations that if you're a conservative, you go so far one way. You've got to be a Trump guy if you're conservative. And at the same time, the same thing. If you're a liberal, you've got to be a socialist. The majority of the country is in the middle. The primary election cycle ruins both candidates' opportunities to be moderate. And that's where we find ourselves. And in this election, you get two candidates that go even further and further. That's where we find ourselves, watching these debates.

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Eoghan · Post #107 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:36 pm

I'm going as Spencer Hawes for Halloween. I found the perfect mask:

EwingSweatsALot · Post #108 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:46 pm

My in depth basketball analysis on Hawes:

His hands freak me out when he runs.

Post #109 » by **fatlever** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 9:08 pm

Are these two referring to themselves as the "Conglomerate" now? Kaminsky & Hawes Incorporated?

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SWedd523 · Post #110 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Nov 7, 2016 10:14 pm

Hawes is **** weird looking

But anybody who wears a Hillary for Prison shirt is okay in my book

Eoghan · Post #111 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Nov 8, 2016 2:53 am

Spencer Hawes: Holistic Basketball player.

Post #112 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:36 pm

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@daviDBWalker
So Spencer Hawes has the best DFG% at the rim in the NBA. https://t.co/G2d3G3N402

Gobert who?

LamarMatic7 · Post #113 » by **LamarMatic7** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:06 pm

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catch20two · Post #114 » by **catch20two** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:36 pm

Hawes need to be the primary backup C. There should be no Hawes-Hibbert frontcourt lineups ever again the rest of the season unless a heap of injuries force that on us. Hibbert has been a net negative for us across the board even with the starters. I don't understand Clifford's reasoning in DNP Hawes or playing him less than 15 minutes while giving Hibbert minutes at all.

Post #115 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:46 pm

catch20two wrote:Hawes need to be the primary backup C. There should be no Hawes-Hibbert frontcourt lineups ever again the rest of the season unless a heap of injuries force that on us. Hibbert has been a net negative for us across the board even with the starters. I don't understand Clifford's reasoning in DNP Hawes or playing him less than 15 minutes while giving Hibbert minutes at all.

Curious to hear your thoughts on this. I agree that Hawes - Hibbert doesn't work, but I don't agree that Hawes should play over Hibbert.

On the season Hibbert has a higher net rating (a not great -0.3 compared to Hawes's -4.0). When Hawes is off the court we have a +6.5 rating, compared to Hibbert's +4.6 (not sure that that is too meaningful of a stat).

Hibbert actually has the better TS% individually (53.8% vs. 52.2%), and our TS% as a team with Hibbert on the floor (53.2%) is higher than our TS% with Hawes on the floor (51.0%).

I'm not convinced right now that either is too significant an improvement over the other as both have been underwhelming, but I think Roy is by far the better defender and offensive rebounder and I think between the two I'd prefer Roy.

Curious as to whether the majority of folks would prefer Hawes or Roy as second unit C though.

catch20two · Post #116 » by **catch20two** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:56 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:Hawes need to be the primary backup C. There should be no Hawes-Hibbert frontcourt lineups ever again the rest of the season unless a heap of injuries force that on us. Hibbert has been a net negative for us across the board even with the starters. I don't understand Clifford's reasoning in DNP Hawes or playing him less than 15 minutes while giving Hibbert minutes at all.

Curious to hear your thoughts on this. I agree that Hawes - Hibbert doesn't work, but I don't agree that Hawes should play over Hibbert.

On the season Hibbert has a higher net rating (a not great -0.3 compared to Hawes's -4.0). When Hawes is off the court we have a +6.5 rating, compared to Hibbert's +4.6 (not sure that that is too meaningful of a stat).

Hibbert actually has the better TS% individually (53.8% vs. 52.2%), and our TS% as a team with Hibbert on the floor (53.2%) is higher than our TS% with Hawes on the floor (51.0%).

I'm not convinced right now that either is too significant an improvement over the other as both have been underwhelming, but I think Roy is by far the better defender and offensive rebounder and I think between the two I'd prefer Roy.

Curious as to whether the majority of folks would prefer Hawes or Roy as second unit C though.

Most of Hawes negativity in the net directly involves him playing alongside Hibbert.

The 2nd unit lineup of Hawes-Frank-MKG-Belly-Sessions has a +9.9 on the season with the 3rd most minutes played together among all lineups.

Replace MKG at SF in the 2nd unit with Batum and they have a +16.9 with Hawes at C.

Put Lamb at SF with the 2nd unit with Hawes at C and they have a +43.1 albeit a super small sample size of only playing 11 minutes together all season.

catch20two · Post #117 » by **catch20two** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:00 pm

Hibbert has a negative net of -4.1 with Batum playing SF with the 2nd unit of Frank-Belly-Sessions and a -1.1 with MKG replacing Batum at SF.

But they do have a +45 with Lamb at SF with Hibbert at C in a small sample size of 15 minutes on the season.

Post #118 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:16 pm

catch20two wrote:The 2nd unit lineup of Hawes-Frank-MKG-Belly-Sessions has a +9.9 on the season with the 3rd most minutes played together among all lineups.

Hibbert has only run with that unit for 30 minutes all season (compared to Hawes's 62 minutes), so tough to do an apples to apples comparison there, and really both are too small of a sample size to be particularly meaningful. That group is getting a huge bump from the four games they played together between 11/15 and 11/30 where they played 22 minutes and had a +28 net rating. Take the games they played together pre-11/15 (which was 40 minutes, so 10 minutes more than Hibbert has played with that group all season) and they had a net rating of only +0.7.

catch20two wrote:Replace MKG at SF in the 2nd unit with Batum and they have a +16.9 with Hawes at C.

...and a +12.6 with Hibbert. Think there are sample size problems here with both.

catch20two wrote:Put Lamb at SF with the 2nd unit with Hawes at C and they have a +43.1 albeit a super small sample size of only playing 11 minutes together all season.

...and a +45 with Hibbert. Obvious sample size problems with both.

To me it's just so clear that Hawes and Hibbert have different strengths, and it's about what you think better fits the team. They aren't close to the same player.

Post #119 » by **fatlever** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:09 pm

They both suck. Hawes is more entertaining. Give me Hawes.

How's that for in-depth analysis?

catch20two · Post #120 » by **catch20two** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:22 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:The 2nd unit lineup of Hawes-Frank-MKG-Belly-Sessions has a +9.9 on the season with the 3rd most minutes played together among all lineups.

Hibbert has only run with that unit for 30 minutes all season (compared to Hawes's 62 minutes), so tough to do an apples to apples comparison there, and really both are too small of a sample size to be particularly meaningful. That group is getting a huge bump from the four games they played together between 11/15 and 11/30 where they played 22 minutes and had a +28 net rating. Take the games they played together pre-11/15 (which was 40 minutes, so 10 minutes more than Hibbert has played with that group all season) and they had a net rating of only +0.7.

catch20two wrote:Replace MKG at SF in the 2nd unit with Batum and they have a +16.9 with Hawes at C.

...and a +12.6 with Hibbert. Think there are sample size problems here with both.

catch20two wrote:Put Lamb at SF with the 2nd unit with Hawes at C and they have a +43.1 albeit a super small sample size of only playing 11 minutes together all season.

...and a +45 with Hibbert. Obvious sample size problems with both.

To me it's just so clear that Hawes and Hibbert have different strengths, and it's about what you think better fits the team. They aren't close to the same player.

Compare how Hawes play with the starters in comparison of Hibbert with the starters. I know Hibbert with the starters is slightly in the negative.

Also I don't need any fruit comparisons to just accept that the 2nd unit plays well with Hawes as the primary backup C. They've played the 3rd most minutes on the season together and they are a net positive.