Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[KembaSlice]

I forgot about that Asik contract. No thanks.

I'd be down for Faried though.

[chellis]

I've been kicking around the idea of trying to get Faried to CLT for a while. I know it's not a popular thought, but one of the frameworks I had thought of was:

CLT gets: Faried, Chandler, Nelson
DEN gets: MKG, Marvin, heavily protected first that most likely conveys to two seconds in 2019 or 2020.

This way we could slide FK3 into the starting lineup, replace MKG defense with the 3&D abilities of Chandler, and upgrade our backup PG spot in Nelson. For Denver, they get a nice young defensive SF to build with their young core, a vet in Marvin (though I'd hate to lose him and his impact on the team chemistry) who can play in the starting lineup or come off the bench.

I'd prefer to get my hands on Beasley, but not sure how he's valued. Am I off in the value here?

[BigSlam]

Am I off in the value here?

Yes


"BBMF'ers"

[JDR720]

faried is like a small cody that doesn't play defence. not interested

[Braggins]

I'm at the point where I'd say screw it and try to trade a 1st for Brandon Knight. Knight isn't great, but he actually is pretty close to an ideal fit as a backup PG and 6th man for us.

Sessions + Roy/Hawes + lotto protected 1st for Knight

Kemba/Knight/Roberts
Batum/Marco/Harrison
MKG/Lamb/Graham
Marv/Frank/Wood
Cody/Hawes

[JDR720]

gonna need to include marco or lamb too, not enough PT.

[fatlever]

for those wanting to do a deal for Noel, apparently there are some major concerns with his character/work ethic

1 hour ago – via The Vertical
Adrian Wojnarowski: Nerlens Noel in Philly, the research teams have done on him is not good. Their intel of how he’s carrying himself there, of his habits, is not a great return. There are teams willing to do a deal for him and bring him in, but they don’t want to give up much.

http://hoopshype.com/storyline/nerlens-noel-trade/

[chellis]

for those wanting to do a deal for Noel, apparently there are some major concerns with his character/work ethic

1 hour ago – via The Vertical
Adrian Wojnarowski: Nerlens Noel in Philly, the research teams have done on him is not good. Their intel of how he’s carrying himself there, of his habits, is not a great return. There are teams willing to do a deal for him and bring him in, but they don’t want to give up much.

http://hoopshype.com/storyline/nerlens-noel-trade/

How much of it would you say is him vs. being in that environment? I'm not saying he's 100% at fault or vice versa. In the right situation he might do just fine.

[Braggins]

gonna need to include marco or lamb too, not enough PT.

Or just play MKG at PF more.

[yosemiteben]

Interesting about Noel, makes sense I guess because otherwise why on earth haven't they moved him yet.

[Braggins]

If that makes him attainable for us then I would be open to giving him a chance if the price is low enough. Like, I wouldn't be trying to move Zeller and a pick for him or something like that, but if all it took was a pick and filler then it would be hard to pass up a talent like that.

[catch20two]

for those wanting to do a deal for Noel, apparently there are some major concerns with his character/work ethic

1 hour ago – via The Vertical
Adrian Wojnarowski: Nerlens Noel in Philly, the research teams have done on him is not good. Their intel of how he’s carrying himself there, of his habits, is not a great return. There are teams willing to do a deal for him and bring him in, but they don’t want to give up much.

http://hoopshype.com/storyline/nerlens-noel-trade/

Sounds like teams in pursuit are just creating leverage moreso than Noel actually being a problem. I don't think any of their bigs are enjoying the process or are thrilled about the team drafting 3 centers in the lottery over the past 3 years.

[catch20two]

I wouldn't mind trading for Lavoy Allen from Indy. He leads all bigs in the NBA in AST/TO ratio but he's eerily been struggling with efficiency this year, something he hasn't had a issue with in previous years. Definitely would be a huge pickup to acquire a player like him that fits Clifford's scheme.

[Sauce_Castillo]

What about mahimni?


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[catch20two]

What about mahimni?


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His AST/TO ratio not good enough.

[Diop]

last loss dummy spit team rebuild

Out - MKG and Marv
In - Millsap and Sefolosha

Saw this suggested on the trade board by a neutral fan. Risky move as Millsap has a player option for next year and could walk.

Another trade board suggestion that Dallas fans liked

Out - Sessions and Hibbert, 2nd round pick
In - Deron Williams

Deron isn't what he used to be, but would be an upgrade from Sess

Miami need a stretch 4 to build next to Whiteside

Out - Kaminsky and Roberts (needed for salary)
In - Tyler Johnson

I picked Tyler over Richardson as he's having the better year. I can honestly see Kam making me regret this trade, but I'm angry right now, so screw him. Tyler looks like a good do it all guard, who could work alongside Kemba.

Kemba, Deron
Lamb or Marco or Tyler or Sefo, I can't be bothered arguing who should start and who sould backup.
Batum, Sefolosha
Millsap, Wood
Zeller, Hawes

that's as far as I got before the anger ran out

was going to look to trade Batum for a upgraded big, but ran out of steam.
This team has to many wings now, but could force Clifford to play some small ball with Batum at Pf at least.
Portland used to play him there occasionally.

[Diop]

What about mahimni?


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His AST/TO ratio not good enough.

give it a rest Catch

[BigSlam]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gmydaer

and Denver adds a 1st round pick.

So....

Kaminksy, Hibbert and Harrison
For
Faried and a 2017 1st round pick (I believe they have theirs and the Memphis 2017 1st round pick).

They get out of the Faried contract with Hibberts expiring while adding youth with "potential" in Kaminsky and Harrison.

Kemba - Sesh - BRob
Bats - Sauce
MKG - Lamb - Buddy
Marv - Faried - Woods
Cody - Hawesome - Toby



"BBMF'ers"

[HornetJail]

Why would denver add a pick? Faried is a better player than Frank. You realize Faried is a career 16/12 guy per 36 right? And he's on a pretty reasonable contract? He has a fairly limited skillset but I like what he brings to the table. He'd be great here, though I think he and Cody might be a little too similar in some ways. We'd want to stagger their time.

[fatlever]

MKG to Denver for Wilson Chandler and Gary Harris

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zry3r5m