GT: Hornets @ Wizards Wed Dec 14 7PM EST

[catch20two]

It's ok. We had a lot of fun in those debates.

Lol. Good times. Wish I could post more but I moved out to the middle of no where and there's no way I'll pay 150$ a month for satellite internet. Service is sketchy as well. Only have service in the corner of the kitchen. So when my girlfriend ask me why I'm standing in a corner I have to tell her I'm talking to all you fools,

We need to kickstarter fund to get LP some satellite internet... or a move back to civilization. This forum needs way more LP.

Start a GoFundMe account. Everyone will contribute thinking he has a liver problem.

[fatlever]

Lol. Good times. Wish I could post more but I moved out to the middle of no where and there's no way I'll pay 150$ a month for satellite internet. Service is sketchy as well. Only have service in the corner of the kitchen. So when my girlfriend ask me why I'm standing in a corner I have to tell her I'm talking to all you fools,

We need to kickstarter fund to get LP some satellite internet... or a move back to civilization. This forum needs way more LP.

Start a GoFundMe account. Everyone will contribute thinking he has a liver problem.

Speaking of gofundme accounts, has anyone seen Penguin around the boards lately? I hope he's OK. He's had a really tough go of things lately.

[fatlever]

Clifford really harped on the lack of physicality in post-game. He specifically mentioned Gortat singlehandedly abusing us on the glass and in the paint in the 3rd Q. He never said Cody by name, but obviously Cody has to take a lot of the blame for not being tough enough with Gortat. That MF always kills us.

I was surprised Cliff didn't spend more time complaining about the turnovers. I was shocked to see Kemba only had 3. I was sure when watching that he was well over 5.

Starting to feel more and more like that hot start was really just the result of Kemba shooting 3s at an unsustainable %.

Marvin has to start making some shots. We're 26 games into the season and he's still not improving that dreadful 3pt% at all.

[JDR720]

going to boston next.
possible 4gm L streak coming

[JDR720]

Clifford really harped on the lack of physicality in post-game. He specifically mentioned Gortat singlehandedly abusing us on the glass and in the paint in the 3rd Q. He never said Cody by name, but obviously Cody has to take a lot of the blame for not being tough enough with Gortat. That MF always kills us.

I was surprised Cliff didn't spend more time complaining about the turnovers. I was shocked to see Kemba only had 3. I was sure when watching that he was well over 5.

Starting to feel more and more like that hot start was really just the result of Kemba shooting 3s at an unsustainable %.

Marvin has to start making some shots. We're 26 games into the season and he's still not improving that dreadful 3pt% at all.

losing record since 8-3 start.
need to get some w's now. brutal jan schedule. 8 road games and games against GS, HOU, SA, POR 2x, and TOR. play CLE last game of DEC and GS first game of FEB.

[Diop]

Clifford really harped on the lack of physicality in post-game. He specifically mentioned Gortat singlehandedly abusing us on the glass and in the paint in the 3rd Q.

The annoying voice in my head said that they shouldn't have let Biyombo walk if they wanted a physical option.

They could have gotten him cheap and long term instead of letting him walk to Toronto. Unlike Hibbert he has the speed to defend the pick n roll, he was still learning though.

I agree that Zeller appears to be the better option now, but he would've remained handy on the bench and didn't appear to be the sooky type.

[yosemiteben]

I'll be honest, it felt like Kemba had a trash game but then I checked the boxscore and he was 17 / 6 / 9 on good%s. Just felt like he was having all sorts of trouble with Wall on both ends.

I completely agree with Cliff, we saw bad Cody tonight. That 3rd quarter cost us the game, we outscored WAS in every other quarter. We just played no D at all and were so soft on the boards. Really didn't look like Gortat was even working hard. I would have been ok with more Roy minutes once Gortat started owning Cody in the 3rd and we offered no resistance at the rim.

Man, we finally have an impressive offensive game (51.7% from the field and 42% from 3 on 44 attempts) and it's our D, TOs, and rebounding that disappears. Frustrating.

[Braggins]

Clifford really harped on the lack of physicality in post-game. He specifically mentioned Gortat singlehandedly abusing us on the glass and in the paint in the 3rd Q.

The annoying voice in my head said that they shouldn't have let Biyombo walk if they wanted a physical option.

They could have gotten him cheap and long term instead of letting him walk to Toronto. Unlike Hibbert he has the speed to defend the pick n roll, he was still learning though.

I agree that Zeller appears to be the better option now, but he would've remained handy on the bench and didn't appear to be the sooky type.

Its mind boggling to me that Cliff was so disinterested in Biz, but is seemingly super into Roy. Roy is a better passer and is more of a threat to hit a 12 footer, but other than that he is just worse than Biz and they pretty much play the exact same role. I don't think that the one good pass to the corner per game that Roy makes is enough to make up for him being so awful.

[8miles]

Clifford really harped on the lack of physicality in post-game. He specifically mentioned Gortat singlehandedly abusing us on the glass and in the paint in the 3rd Q.

The annoying voice in my head said that they shouldn't have let Biyombo walk if they wanted a physical option.

They could have gotten him cheap and long term instead of letting him walk to Toronto. Unlike Hibbert he has the speed to defend the pick n roll, he was still learning though.

I agree that Zeller appears to be the better option now, but he would've remained handy on the bench and didn't appear to be the sooky type.

Its mind boggling to me that Cliff was so disinterested in Biz, but is seemingly super into Roy. Roy is a better passer and is more of a threat to hit a 12 footer, but other than that he is just worse than Biz and they pretty much play the exact same role. I don't think that the one good pass to the corner per game that Roy makes is enough to make up for him being so awful.

to be fair, there is no way I'd pay Biz what he is making right now... maybe that played into it?

[BigSlam]

Clifford really harped on the lack of physicality in post-game. He specifically mentioned Gortat singlehandedly abusing us on the glass and in the paint in the 3rd Q.

The annoying voice in my head said that they shouldn't have let Biyombo walk if they wanted a physical option.

They could have gotten him cheap and long term instead of letting him walk to Toronto. Unlike Hibbert he has the speed to defend the pick n roll, he was still learning though.

I agree that Zeller appears to be the better option now, but he would've remained handy on the bench and didn't appear to be the sooky type.

Its mind boggling to me that Cliff was so disinterested in Biz, but is seemingly super into Roy. Roy is a better passer and is more of a threat to hit a 12 footer, but other than that he is just worse than Biz and they pretty much play the exact same role. I don't think that the one good pass to the corner per game that Roy makes is enough to make up for him being so awful.

My feeling is, and always has been, that our FO puts a high priority on high BBIQ players - which is why we had a boner for Hayward, have one for Bats, have one for Sauce and had one for Kaminsky leading us to draft him.

I don't think guys like Biyombo, Vonleh and Stephenson fit that category - which is why they were moved.

It's also why I'm so shocked we didn't get Brogdon - although maybe we did but couldn't get into the second round.


P.S. Hope your back has improved.


"BBMF'ers"

[Braggins]

P.S. Hope your back has improved.


"BBMF'ers"

A few days of bed rest did the trick. It still feels a little off, but its fine. Pretty sure it was a muscle strain. I'm going to do some physical therapy on my own to strengthen up my back muscles.

[JDR720]

The annoying voice in my head said that they shouldn't have let Biyombo walk if they wanted a physical option.

They could have gotten him cheap and long term instead of letting him walk to Toronto. Unlike Hibbert he has the speed to defend the pick n roll, he was still learning though.

I agree that Zeller appears to be the better option now, but he would've remained handy on the bench and didn't appear to be the sooky type.

Its mind boggling to me that Cliff was so disinterested in Biz, but is seemingly super into Roy. Roy is a better passer and is more of a threat to hit a 12 footer, but other than that he is just worse than Biz and they pretty much play the exact same role. I don't think that the one good pass to the corner per game that Roy makes is enough to make up for him being so awful.

to be fair, there is no way I'd pay Biz what he is making right now... maybe that played into it?

he wouldn't have got anywhere near that if he stayed here

[8miles]

Its mind boggling to me that Cliff was so disinterested in Biz, but is seemingly super into Roy. Roy is a better passer and is more of a threat to hit a 12 footer, but other than that he is just worse than Biz and they pretty much play the exact same role. I don't think that the one good pass to the corner per game that Roy makes is enough to make up for him being so awful.

to be fair, there is no way I'd pay Biz what he is making right now... maybe that played into it?

he wouldn't have got anywhere near that if he stayed here

you are probably right. I wanted to keep him too.

But per 36 mins this year Hibbert is at 12.6/8.5 or so and Biyombo is 8.6/11.5 or something like that.

[yosemiteben]

Its mind boggling to me that Cliff was so disinterested in Biz, but is seemingly super into Roy. Roy is a better passer and is more of a threat to hit a 12 footer, but other than that he is just worse than Biz and they pretty much play the exact same role. I don't think that the one good pass to the corner per game that Roy makes is enough to make up for him being so awful.

to be fair, there is no way I'd pay Biz what he is making right now... maybe that played into it?

he wouldn't have got anywhere near that if he stayed here

We'll never know. Al missed a bunch of time last season and Cody had a couple injuries, so Biz would have gotten burn here too.

And look at Ezeli's contract, where he played in only half GSW's games in the 2015-16 season and had lingering back injury issues that were still unresolved by the FA period and he still got a 2 year, $16M deal. If Ezeli, a 27 year old center with chronic injury issues who barely played at GSW, got that deal, Biz was definitely going to get paid more. Biz might have gotten paid less if he stayed here as compared to what he got in ORL, we'll obviously never know how that situation would have worked out, but he was still going to get paid.

[fatlever]

I'll be honest, it felt like Kemba had a trash game but then I checked the boxscore and he was 17 / 6 / 9 on good%s. Just felt like he was having all sorts of trouble with Wall on both ends.

I think the boxscore was very kind to Kemba. He was only credited with 3 turnovers. I think another 2-3 were probably his fault but credited to the person who received the pass. He seems to be a little off since the knee bump.