Where is Jahlil Okafor?

[youngcrev]

I mean it's been obvious for awhile but Jahlil is just gonna be our scapegoat until he isn't here anymore. Whether issues are his fault or not he'll get the blame by sheer virtue of just being on the roster. No need to rage against the machine it's just the way it is for folks around here.

Saying he's our scapegoat implies that people are blaming him for the losses. I dont think thats what is going on here. People know we simply arent a very talented team and have low expectations for wins and losses regardless.

I just think people recognize that hes not that good and is a terrible fit with our core.

[phifans]

Nice now we are comparing him to Anthony Davis.

Don't get where you are getting that this conversation is about blaming him for last nights game...

You are becoming more and more ridiculous with these nonsense when every time some guys bring up other name in this thread. You know very well people are not really comparing him to any guys like AD or Embiid you know it clearly you just need some excuses to trash Okafor.

[phifans]

I mean it's been obvious for awhile but Jahlil is just gonna be our scapegoat until he isn't here anymore. Whether issues are his fault or not he'll get the blame by sheer virtue of just being on the roster. No need to rage against the machine it's just the way it is for folks around here.

Saying he's our scapegoat implies that people are blaming him for the losses. I dont think thats what is going on here. People know we simply arent a very talented team and have low expectations for wins and losses regardless.

I just think people recognize that hes not that good and is a terrible fit with our core.

He got plenty blame for our many losses so I don't think your explanation stands. He also takes the blame that he somehow block the development of Noel last season and the fresh one is he block the development of Embiid. Also someone on the last page just blame him that he didn't make our scrubs around him better like Embiid did. I can't remember he got any props from you guys all blame and trash. Its unbelievable he's still here even though he's one of the worst player in this league.Our FO is just crazy not to release him after they mistakenly draft him .He would go undrafted if not taken by us and would play in CBA right now.

[Unbreakable99]

I mean it's been obvious for awhile but Jahlil is just gonna be our scapegoat until he isn't here anymore. Whether issues are his fault or not he'll get the blame by sheer virtue of just being on the roster. No need to rage against the machine it's just the way it is for folks around here.

Saying he's our scapegoat implies that people are blaming him for the losses. I dont think thats what is going on here. People know we simply arent a very talented team and have low expectations for wins and losses regardless.

I just think people recognize that hes not that good and is a terrible fit with our core.

He got plenty blame for our many losses so I don't think your explanation stands. He also takes the blame that he somehow block the development of Noel last season and the fresh one is he block the development of Embiid. Also someone on the last page just blame him that he didn't make our scrubs around him better like Embiid did. I can't remember he got any props from you guys all blame and trash. Its unbelievable he's still here even though he's one of the worst player in this league.Our FO is just crazy not to release him after they mistakenly draft him .He would go undrafted if not taken by us and would play in CBA right now.

The Sixers would trade him. The problem is that his value is so low we can't. His trade value is horrible.

[youngcrev]

I mean it's been obvious for awhile but Jahlil is just gonna be our scapegoat until he isn't here anymore. Whether issues are his fault or not he'll get the blame by sheer virtue of just being on the roster. No need to rage against the machine it's just the way it is for folks around here.

Saying he's our scapegoat implies that people are blaming him for the losses. I dont think thats what is going on here. People know we simply arent a very talented team and have low expectations for wins and losses regardless.

I just think people recognize that hes not that good and is a terrible fit with our core.

He got plenty blame for our many losses so I don't think your explanation stands. He also takes the blame that he somehow block the development of Noel last season and the fresh one is he block the development of Embiid. Also someone on the last page just blame him that he didn't make our scrubs around him better like Embiid did. I can't remember he got any props from you guys all blame and trash. Its unbelievable he's still here even though he's one of the worst player in this league.Our FO is just crazy not to release him after they mistakenly draft him .He would go undrafted if not taken by us and would play in CBA right now.

I havent seen it, but maybe I'm just not as sensitive to Jah related issues

The attempt to play him with Nerlens and Joel forces those guys out of position. Whether he's actually holding back their development is one thing, but he clealry holds back their effictiveness.

As for someone blaming him for not making our scrubs better, seems like you are clearly taking that comment out of context. It was used as a response to someone else calling his teammates trash as an excuse, and someone responded with the fact that Joel seems to do fine with those same exact scrubs.

Joel is a transcendent talent while Jah is just a guy. I think Jah is just fine as a backup center... but I dont like him playing with Joel one bit since it forces a superior player to sacrifice his game. I also think Nerlens is a clearly bettet player as well... and think Jah could still bring back something in a trade... so yeah, I'd like him to be dealt

[Ericb5]

Saying he's our scapegoat implies that people are blaming him for the losses. I dont think thats what is going on here. People know we simply arent a very talented team and have low expectations for wins and losses regardless.

I just think people recognize that hes not that good and is a terrible fit with our core.

He got plenty blame for our many losses so I don't think your explanation stands. He also takes the blame that he somehow block the development of Noel last season and the fresh one is he block the development of Embiid. Also someone on the last page just blame him that he didn't make our scrubs around him better like Embiid did. I can't remember he got any props from you guys all blame and trash. Its unbelievable he's still here even though he's one of the worst player in this league.Our FO is just crazy not to release him after they mistakenly draft him .He would go undrafted if not taken by us and would play in CBA right now.

The Sixers would trade him. The problem is that his value is so low we can't. His trade value is horrible.

His trade value is down in relation to his draft position, but that isn't the same thing as saying that he has no trade value.

He is a very talented big man, and they are always in demand.

From the Sixers perspective I think that there is less and less risk for dealing him or Noel at a discount.

We need the clarity, the minutes and the backcourt help


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[phifans]

I havent seen it, but maybe I'm just not as sensitive to Jah related issues

The attempt to play him with Nerlens and Joel forces those guys out of position. Whether he's actually holding back their development is one thing, but he clealry holds back their effictiveness.

As for someone blaming him for not making our scrubs better, seems like you are clearly taking that comment out of context. It was used as a response to someone else calling his teammates trash as an excuse, and someone responded with the fact that Joel seems to do fine with those same exact scrubs.

Joel is a transcendent talent while Jah is just a guy. I think Jah is just fine as a backup center... but I dont like him playing with Joel one bit since it forces a superior player to sacrifice his game. I also think Nerlens is a clearly bettet player as well... and think Jah could still bring back something in a trade... so yeah, I'd like him to be dealt

You deny that you guys blame everything on Okafor and just recognize he's not good.
And then you just put the blame on Okafor for him "holding back Embiid & Noels' effectiveness" and "forcing Joel to sacrifice his game".
JUST RELEASE this guy ! He's every reason why we SUCK ! We'll win everything ONCE HE'S GONE !

[youngcrev]

I havent seen it, but maybe I'm just not as sensitive to Jah related issues

The attempt to play him with Nerlens and Joel forces those guys out of position. Whether he's actually holding back their development is one thing, but he clealry holds back their effictiveness.

As for someone blaming him for not making our scrubs better, seems like you are clearly taking that comment out of context. It was used as a response to someone else calling his teammates trash as an excuse, and someone responded with the fact that Joel seems to do fine with those same exact scrubs.

Joel is a transcendent talent while Jah is just a guy. I think Jah is just fine as a backup center... but I dont like him playing with Joel one bit since it forces a superior player to sacrifice his game. I also think Nerlens is a clearly bettet player as well... and think Jah could still bring back something in a trade... so yeah, I'd like him to be dealt

You deny that you guys blame everything on Okafor and just recognize he's not good.
And then you just put the blame on Okafor for him "holding back Embiid & Noels' effectiveness" and "forcing Joel to sacrifice his game".
JUST RELEASE this guy ! He's every reason why we SUCK ! We'll win everything ONCE HE'S GONE !

Yes. I deny that people are blaming losses on Okafor. I dont think anyone goes into any game expecting us to win with this team.

And yes. Guys playing out of position reduces their effectiveness. What is incorrect about that?

You are just overly sensitive with the guy if you are translating what I said to "cut him." I just simply dont think he fits, and that he could potentially bring back a piece that does.

[LloydFree]

I havent seen it, but maybe I'm just not as sensitive to Jah related issues

The attempt to play him with Nerlens and Joel forces those guys out of position. Whether he's actually holding back their development is one thing, but he clealry holds back their effictiveness.

As for someone blaming him for not making our scrubs better, seems like you are clearly taking that comment out of context. It was used as a response to someone else calling his teammates trash as an excuse, and someone responded with the fact that Joel seems to do fine with those same exact scrubs.

Joel is a transcendent talent while Jah is just a guy. I think Jah is just fine as a backup center... but I dont like him playing with Joel one bit since it forces a superior player to sacrifice his game. I also think Nerlens is a clearly bettet player as well... and think Jah could still bring back something in a trade... so yeah, I'd like him to be dealt

You deny that you guys blame everything on Okafor and just recognize he's not good.
And then you just put the blame on Okafor for him "holding back Embiid & Noels' effectiveness" and "forcing Joel to sacrifice his game".
JUST RELEASE this guy ! He's every reason why we SUCK ! We'll win everything ONCE HE'S GONE !

Stop your crying. Sack up.

[phifans]

I havent seen it, but maybe I'm just not as sensitive to Jah related issues

The attempt to play him with Nerlens and Joel forces those guys out of position. Whether he's actually holding back their development is one thing, but he clealry holds back their effictiveness.

As for someone blaming him for not making our scrubs better, seems like you are clearly taking that comment out of context. It was used as a response to someone else calling his teammates trash as an excuse, and someone responded with the fact that Joel seems to do fine with those same exact scrubs.

Joel is a transcendent talent while Jah is just a guy. I think Jah is just fine as a backup center... but I dont like him playing with Joel one bit since it forces a superior player to sacrifice his game. I also think Nerlens is a clearly bettet player as well... and think Jah could still bring back something in a trade... so yeah, I'd like him to be dealt

You deny that you guys blame everything on Okafor and just recognize he's not good.
And then you just put the blame on Okafor for him "holding back Embiid & Noels' effectiveness" and "forcing Joel to sacrifice his game".
JUST RELEASE this guy ! He's every reason why we SUCK ! We'll win everything ONCE HE'S GONE !

Stop your crying. Sack up.

Im not crying dude. I'm just saying what you guys want. How our FO hasn't been recognized that Okafor is one of the worst player is beyond me. I mean there are so many posters here who has determined that. What are they waiting for ? Just cut this guy and everything will be fine and nobody will play out of their position anymore.

[phifans]

And yes. Guys playing out of position reduces their effectiveness. What is incorrect about that?

So ... when did Okafor get that right to decide what position his teammates will play ? Cos you are blaming this on him right ?

[youngcrev]

And yes. Guys playing out of position reduces their effectiveness. What is incorrect about that?

So ... when did Okafor get that right to decide what position his teammates will play ? Cos you are blaming this on him ?

He doesnt have the ability to play outside of the paint on either side of the floor, so if you are going to play him with either of those guys, your hand is forced.

I dont "blame" Jah for that, but he simply doesnt fit with either guy. And IMO he's the worst of the 3. If the team decides to go down the Noel trade route because they dont want to pay him, I'm fine with keeping Jah on board. But as the backup center, and not much else.

[Unbreakable99]

I havent seen it, but maybe I'm just not as sensitive to Jah related issues

The attempt to play him with Nerlens and Joel forces those guys out of position. Whether he's actually holding back their development is one thing, but he clealry holds back their effictiveness.

As for someone blaming him for not making our scrubs better, seems like you are clearly taking that comment out of context. It was used as a response to someone else calling his teammates trash as an excuse, and someone responded with the fact that Joel seems to do fine with those same exact scrubs.

Joel is a transcendent talent while Jah is just a guy. I think Jah is just fine as a backup center... but I dont like him playing with Joel one bit since it forces a superior player to sacrifice his game. I also think Nerlens is a clearly bettet player as well... and think Jah could still bring back something in a trade... so yeah, I'd like him to be dealt

You deny that you guys blame everything on Okafor and just recognize he's not good.
And then you just put the blame on Okafor for him "holding back Embiid & Noels' effectiveness" and "forcing Joel to sacrifice his game".
JUST RELEASE this guy ! He's every reason why we SUCK ! We'll win everything ONCE HE'S GONE !

I'm getting to that point that if we release him and get nothing in return I'm fine with that.

[SelfishPlayer]

Porzingis played against the Warriors without Derrick Rose and Carmelo Anthony. He had a -21, scored 8 points, no blocks, and 5 rebounds in 35 minutes. Okafor has to had play without Carmelo and Rose level perimeter players his entire NBA career. Porzingis is really good, but he could have shown the basketball world another level of his game if he would have produced average to above average against the Warriors without help.

[phifans]

I'm getting to that point that if we release him and get nothing in return I'm fine with that.

I know that man. And I appreciate your honesty actually. At least you don't hide or making excuses for your hatres on Okafor which I respect for even though I may not agree.

[FKAri]

Porzingis played against the Warriors without Derrick Rose and Carmelo Anthony. He had a -21, scored 8 points, no blocks, and 5 rebounds in 35 minutes. Okafor has to had play without Carmelo and Rose level perimeter players his entire NBA career. Porzingis is really good, but he could have shown the basketball world another level of his game if he would have produced average to above average against the Warriors without help.

Except Porzingis isn't an iso scorer. Atleast not an efficient one. Knicks didn't run much action for him today aside from elbow iso's. Okafor IS an iso scorer. Porzingis at this stage is a guy who thrives off of pick and roll or drive and kick action.

[phifans]

And yes. Guys playing out of position reduces their effectiveness. What is incorrect about that?

So ... when did Okafor get that right to decide what position his teammates will play ? Cos you are blaming this on him ?

He doesnt have the ability to play outside of the paint on either side of the floor, so if you are going to play him with either of those guys, your hand is forced.

I dont "blame" Jah for that, but he simply doesnt fit with either guy. And IMO he's the worst of the 3. If the team decides to go down the Noel trade route because they dont want to pay him, I'm fine with keeping Jah on board. But as the backup center, and not much else.

Fair Enough. Then just don't say Okafor holds back Embiid & Noels' effectiveness which is clearly a "Blame" seems to me. Even If they don't fit with each other its not anyones' fault. And its not their decition on who plays what position. Just because you think Okafor is the worst of three doesn't mean he should take reponsible for all of this.

[SelfishPlayer]

Porzingis played against the Warriors without Derrick Rose and Carmelo Anthony. He had a -21, scored 8 points, no blocks, and 5 rebounds in 35 minutes. Okafor has to had play without Carmelo and Rose level perimeter players his entire NBA career. Porzingis is really good, but he could have shown the basketball world another level of his game if he would have produced average to above average against the Warriors without help.

Except Porzingis isn't an iso scorer. Atleast not an efficient one. Knicks didn't run much action for him today aside from elbow iso's. Okafor IS an iso scorer. Porzingis at this stage is a guy who thrives off of pick and roll or drive and kick action.

Sounds like you're saying that Porzingis would look like a bust in a Sixers uniform.

[FKAri]

Porzingis played against the Warriors without Derrick Rose and Carmelo Anthony. He had a -21, scored 8 points, no blocks, and 5 rebounds in 35 minutes. Okafor has to had play without Carmelo and Rose level perimeter players his entire NBA career. Porzingis is really good, but he could have shown the basketball world another level of his game if he would have produced average to above average against the Warriors without help.

Except Porzingis isn't an iso scorer. Atleast not an efficient one. Knicks didn't run much action for him today aside from elbow iso's. Okafor IS an iso scorer. Porzingis at this stage is a guy who thrives off of pick and roll or drive and kick action.

Sounds like you're saying that Porzingis would look like a bust in a Sixers uniform.

He can hit the 3. No one would look like a bust in a Sixers uni if they can hit the 3

[the_process]

I'm stunned there are still guys defending Okafor. I don't get how you can look at his various and obvious limitations and conclude anything other than he is the odd man out.