Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn

[Riot Randolph]

Hard to see a match. He's young, good, and cheap. Only way it works for me is if we get a good player and they take Lance.

o quinn is still very limited and nothing more than a 15-18 mpg player off the bench.

a role player, and if they can get a first rounder it's a great deal.

+100

[BKlutch]

True but you really think he's going to get much better than this? I don't. Odds are he has reached his ceiling.

There's a time to bank on potential and there's a time to lock in on sustainable value. KOQ at his current level is actually excellent and I'm tired of fantasy trades vs. supporting what is actually verifiably good quality chit in our midst. And KOQ is playing REAL BALL. He is becoming a solid piece in the MIDDLE. For me that's big. This franchise has been weak as hell in the paint and at PG for so long I'm not going to jinx our big when they are playing like this by wishing them gone as soon as they excel. I actually think it makes us look like chit fans to do that. Not directed at you in particular, but my feeling about this whole vibe that you trade him now. Based on this kind of mood this board would have lobbied to trade Oak or Mase too just because they were showing value. Value is here. Use it!

The 90s were very different... Ironically Oakley was acquired by trading Cartwright who was a draft pick and was fairly well liked and Mason was traded for Larry Johnson.

I was upset when we traded away Cartwright for Oakley, but Oakley powered the Knicks for years. LJ was also an upgrade over Mason, even though I thought Mase was the best. Sometimes, fans are surprised by the results of a trade (in a good way). The problem is that sometimes, trades get done when they're good for both sides (I hear Cartwright did ok after the trade). Sure, I'd like to trade away Noah for KD, or KOQ for 2 lotto picks, but in the real world, we need to think that KOQ might be an important piece of a winning team. We'd have to trade for a piece that fits better, but it's unlikely another team wants to give us that.

[CJackson]

There's a time to bank on potential and there's a time to lock in on sustainable value. KOQ at his current level is actually excellent and I'm tired of fantasy trades vs. supporting what is actually verifiably good quality chit in our midst. And KOQ is playing REAL BALL. He is becoming a solid piece in the MIDDLE. For me that's big. This franchise has been weak as hell in the paint and at PG for so long I'm not going to jinx our big when they are playing like this by wishing them gone as soon as they excel. I actually think it makes us look like chit fans to do that. Not directed at you in particular, but my feeling about this whole vibe that you trade him now. Based on this kind of mood this board would have lobbied to trade Oak or Mase too just because they were showing value. Value is here. Use it!

The 90s were very different... Ironically Oakley was acquired by trading Cartwright who was a draft pick and was fairly well liked and Mason was traded for Larry Johnson.

I was upset when we traded away Cartwright for Oakley, but Oakley powered the Knicks for years. LJ was also an upgrade over Mason, even though I thought Mase was the best. Sometimes, fans are surprised by the results of a trade (in a good way). The problem is that sometimes, trades get done when they're good for both sides (I hear Cartwright did ok after the trade). Sure, I'd like to trade away Noah for KD, or KOQ for 2 lotto picks, but in the real world, we need to think that KOQ might be an important piece of a winning team. We'd have to trade for a piece that fits better, but it's unlikely another team wants to give us that.

After seeing Noah's frightful performance last night, if there was a team actually wanting him and it took KOQ to complete the deal, I certainly would consider it if what came back helped the Knicks.

I'm not saying KOQ is untradeable. Of course, you listen to what is offered.

But damn, Noah scared me last night. That was just sad.

[BKlutch]

Yes it was sad. Is he really finished, or is something going on physical led we don't know about?

Also, what happened to last night's game thread?

[MrProb]

This board is laughable, I mean certain ppl on this board.

You finally have a guy that produces now you're going to trade him and get back to the same ol' Knicks ?

Unless he's Don Corleone and makes you an offer you can't refuse then you keep him, you keep the piece that complete the jigsaw and you continue finding the missing pieces.

And O'Quinn DIDN'T took that many dumb shots.... some of you are out of your mind... really ?

When he hits his jumper you called them good shots but when he's not hitting it you're blaming his stupidity ? smdh

[MaseInYourFace]

The 90s were very different... Ironically Oakley was acquired by trading Cartwright who was a draft pick and was fairly well liked and Mason was traded for Larry Johnson.

I was upset when we traded away Cartwright for Oakley, but Oakley powered the Knicks for years. LJ was also an upgrade over Mason, even though I thought Mase was the best. Sometimes, fans are surprised by the results of a trade (in a good way). The problem is that sometimes, trades get done when they're good for both sides (I hear Cartwright did ok after the trade). Sure, I'd like to trade away Noah for KD, or KOQ for 2 lotto picks, but in the real world, we need to think that KOQ might be an important piece of a winning team. We'd have to trade for a piece that fits better, but it's unlikely another team wants to give us that.

After seeing Noah's frightful performance last night, if there was a team actually wanting him and it took KOQ to complete the deal, I certainly would consider it if what came back helped the Knicks.

I'm not saying KOQ is untradeable. Of course, you listen to what is offered.

But damn, Noah scared me last night. That was just sad.

Not saying I want these guys traded but the timberpups make a good trade match. They need vets

[King of Canada]

It would be fun if we knew WHICH teams were calling

[CJackson]

I was upset when we traded away Cartwright for Oakley, but Oakley powered the Knicks for years. LJ was also an upgrade over Mason, even though I thought Mase was the best. Sometimes, fans are surprised by the results of a trade (in a good way). The problem is that sometimes, trades get done when they're good for both sides (I hear Cartwright did ok after the trade). Sure, I'd like to trade away Noah for KD, or KOQ for 2 lotto picks, but in the real world, we need to think that KOQ might be an important piece of a winning team. We'd have to trade for a piece that fits better, but it's unlikely another team wants to give us that.

After seeing Noah's frightful performance last night, if there was a team actually wanting him and it took KOQ to complete the deal, I certainly would consider it if what came back helped the Knicks.

I'm not saying KOQ is untradeable. Of course, you listen to what is offered.

But damn, Noah scared me last night. That was just sad.

Not saying I want these guys traded but the timberpups make a good trade match. They need vets

I understand. Yesterday I was advocating for valuing a bird in the hand, not two in the bush.

And I was also in other posts discussing Noah's value off the court.

And until last night I was not ready to side with one wave of sentiment that Noah is done ........

but man that was just brutal. Noah's liabilities on offense may be much worse that I thought they could be. Alarming as hell really.

So I'm a little more appeciative today of the viewpoint the team needs to explore any means by which to unload Noah.

If Noah remains that awful around the basket, then my thesis that after this season his veteran influence may be expensive, but still of value gets knocked to pieces. We simply cannot win games with him if the guy can't score at point blank range.

For that reason I'm more amenable to trades using KOQ if it means unloading Noah. Melo is not going anywhere, so Noah it is. Still doubt anything of the sort will happen though. And even then you'd still need someone to replace KOQ because Willy is not enough and Ndour is probably useless.

[DOT]

I understand. Yesterday I was advocating for valuing a bird in the hand, not two in the bush.

And I was also in other posts discussing Noah's value off the court.

And until last night I was not ready to side with one wave of sentiment that Noah is done ........

but man that was just brutal. Noah's liabilities on offense may be much worse that I thought they could be. Alarming as hell really.

So I'm a little more appeciative today of the viewpoint the team needs to explore any means by which to unload Noah.

If Noah remains that awful around the basket, then my thesis that after this season his veteran influence may be expensive, but still of value gets knocked to pieces. We simply cannot win games with him if the guy can't score at point blank range.

For that reason I'm more amenable to trades using KOQ if it means unloading Noah. Melo is not going anywhere, so Noah it is. Still doubt anything of the sort will happen though. And even then you'd still need someone to replace KOQ because Willy is not enough and Ndour is probably useless.

If Phil was going to move Noah, he wouldn't have signed him to begin with. Moving a guy you just gave a 4 year deal to isn't typically a Phil-type move (Rolo being the exception), especially if you like the guy as much as Phil likes Noah. For better or worse, we're stuck with him until at least the offseason, maybe next

[koogiking]

Kyle O'Quinn is important because he cancels out Noah's bad contract. With the set up now it's ~10mill per year for each. Not really that bad when you think of it

[CJackson]

I understand. Yesterday I was advocating for valuing a bird in the hand, not two in the bush.

And I was also in other posts discussing Noah's value off the court.

And until last night I was not ready to side with one wave of sentiment that Noah is done ........

but man that was just brutal. Noah's liabilities on offense may be much worse that I thought they could be. Alarming as hell really.

So I'm a little more appeciative today of the viewpoint the team needs to explore any means by which to unload Noah.

If Noah remains that awful around the basket, then my thesis that after this season his veteran influence may be expensive, but still of value gets knocked to pieces. We simply cannot win games with him if the guy can't score at point blank range.

For that reason I'm more amenable to trades using KOQ if it means unloading Noah. Melo is not going anywhere, so Noah it is. Still doubt anything of the sort will happen though. And even then you'd still need someone to replace KOQ because Willy is not enough and Ndour is probably useless.

If Phil was going to move Noah, he wouldn't have signed him to begin with. Moving a guy you just gave a 4 year deal to isn't typically a Phil-type move (Rolo being the exception), especially if you like the guy as much as Phil likes Noah. For better or worse, we're stuck with him until at least the offseason, maybe next

I agree. It is unrealistic to expect Phil to bail on Noah now. If anything is going to happen, it will almost certainly be at a later date. The only thing I'd expect to change that is an offer the franchise can't refuse, but that would be presuming there is someone who absolutely wants Noah and as many have already said that would probably only be Thibs. So if a deal happened sooner it would probably only be with Minny. Otherwise, Noah is here this season.

[CJackson]

Kyle O'Quinn is important because he cancels out Noah's bad contract. With the set up now it's ~10mill per year for each. Not really that bad when you think of it

From that vantage point, add in Willy and the frontline is not costly overall.

[koogiking]

Kyle O'Quinn is important because he cancels out Noah's bad contract. With the set up now it's ~10mill per year for each. Not really that bad when you think of it

From that vantage point, add in Willy and the frontline is not costly overall.

Exactly about $8mill each with a salary cap off 100 million

[OrangeAndFlu]

If you can trade KO for a pick that turns into a lotto talent PG you take it it

[BeagleBoss]

Oak'Quinn has improved a lot. Might be a fluke but he's a cheap big man so keep him.

[Fat]

O'quinns not untouchable, if theirs something good on the table for him you do it

[nykballa2k4]

You can take Noah before Quinn

Always sell high. A few months ago the board was ready to trade O'Quinn for the 55th pick. If this were a video game, I would trade O'Quinn since at center we have Hernangomez and Plumsmuggler to back up Noah (and obviously KP can play the 5). But I do love what O'Quinn brings to the team and I think as long as we have Noah here to keep O'Quinn focused, he will be a great contributor.

[HarthorneWingo]

LOL. GTFO. Plus, under the new CBA we can extend him.

[HarthorneWingo]

The only way is if we get to fleece the other team.

[god shammgod]

The only way is if we get to fleece the other team.

have you looked under your name