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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#41 » by KF10 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:59 am

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Again, I don't think the Kings can threaten his broadcast job just because for his non-racist/bigotry/discriminatory opinion about Cousins.


Except that they can. They can say that such language negatively affects the perception of their product and hurts their image and potentially their business. They could easily make that argument if they wanted to, but they likely wouldn't even need to do that.


Hmm, sounds like a slippery slope to me if that's true.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#42 » by Smitty731 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:05 am

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Again, I don't think the Kings can threaten his broadcast job just because for his non-racist/bigotry/discriminatory opinion about Cousins.


Except that they can. They can say that such language negatively affects the perception of their product and hurts their image and potentially their business. They could easily make that argument if they wanted to, but they likely wouldn't even need to do that.


Hmm, sounds like a slippery slope to me if that's true.


They can. The company I work for FT has a policy where we can't be negative about the company, employees or decisions/directions in any form of media (mainstream or social). Punishment can include termination of job. It is fairly common and it stays broad in definition/scope for a reason.

In house media for a team is not an easy task. Hard to balance fair and honest reporting and opinions with the team agenda, and, of course, your own career progression.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#43 » by City of Trees » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:12 am

The Sacramento Bee is continuously poking the bear and uses every bit of reaction to get a story out of Cousins. No joke. Shame on Cousins for responding but he was baited.

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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#44 » by Kings2013 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:27 am

dockingsched wrote:DeMarcus Cousins unleashes profanities at Bee reporter in latest attempt to control the media

At 6 feet, 11 inches, the Sacramento Kings’ DeMarcus Cousins towers over most people, including Sacramento Bee columnist Andy Furillo. Now add to that picture this: Cousins angrily jabbing a finger into Furillo’s face, shouting in a profane and threatening manner, because of a column The Bee published last weekend. Cousins then refused to talk to any reporters in the post-game interview while Furillo was in the room.




Monday was the first time Furillo saw Cousins after the column published. The altercation started with a glare from Cousins, and quickly escalated as the player closed in on Furillo, shouting “We’re going to have some real f---ing issues. Don’t ever mention my brother again.” He continued his profane tirade, as teammate Garrett Temple got between the two and kept his arm around Cousins’ middle, and Kings spokesman Chris Clark motioned to Cousins to stop.


“He is a bully, to be sure,” said Bee columnist Ailene Voisin, who has extensive experience covering the NBA, as well as the NFL and MLB. “He bullies everybody. He bullies his coaches, his teammates, team employees, reporters.

“But this is the first time I have heard of him intimidating anyone physically,” she said. “He normally glares, stares and refuses to speak to the cluster of reporters if someone is present that he is annoyed with at that particular time. Or, he will simply refuse to answer a question from an offending reporter.”


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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#45 » by evitcanI » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:49 am

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I've never argued that he wasn't a paid employee for the Kings. That is not my point.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Napear is protected by the First Amendment. The Kings can't simply go to Napear and threaten his broadcast job for something that he can say on his radio show.



That happens on the time. People get fired all the time for **** they say on twitter.


You have to admit -- most who were fired due to Twitter was because of some racist, bigotry, discriminatory stuff. Napear has never said anything of that vile stuff on his radio show about Cousins.

Again, I don't think the Kings can threaten his broadcast job just because for his non-racist/bigotry/discriminatory opinion about Cousins. They may tell him to "tone it down" but to regulate his opinions and speech is something you can't do -- especially on his radio show, imo.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#46 » by KingFox » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:33 am

KF10 wrote:Furillo & Voison are known to smearing Cousins' at any time as they can. They've been going at it for a while now.

First time I heard about Cousins not liking Leo Beas (Cowbell Kingdom -- local blog-ish reporter) but I know his material and he is a complete idiot. So, I'm not surprised.

Yeah. people have no idea what they're talking about, per usual :lol: nothing to see here
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#47 » by pelifan » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:51 am

Both in the wrong here. I don't think we as fans understand just how nasty reporters can be. Little instances may not seem like a lot but imagine being around that thing all the time. Pissing off Cousins is good for these reporters careers, the guy is probably glad this happened to him.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#48 » by dorkestra » Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:52 am

My eyes tricked me into thinking "Cousins is physically intimidated by the winter"
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#49 » by sacking123 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:01 am

dorkestra wrote:My eyes tricked me into thinking "Cousins is physically intimidated by the winter"

Not controversial enough sorry, back to the drawing board for you



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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#50 » by MrBigShot » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:02 am

For Cousins, this is his second late-night outing on the club circuit this year that ended badly. In May, TMZ caught him at The DrYnk in Tampa with his younger brother, Jaleel. The celebrity gossip website reported that he and his brother were trying to get into the club’s DJ area when a confrontation broke out. Jaleel wound up getting shocked with a Taser and arrested while friends hustled DeMarcus out of the place.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/andy-furillo/article120107843.html#storylink=cpy


Here's some context for anybody that wants it. What business does that reporter have with Cousins' brother? And he even had the audacity to mention him by name. Totally inappropriate, I don't blame Cousins for standing up for his family.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#51 » by evitcanI » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:19 am

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For Cousins, this is his second late-night outing on the club circuit this year that ended badly. In May, TMZ caught him at The DrYnk in Tampa with his younger brother, Jaleel. The celebrity gossip website reported that he and his brother were trying to get into the club’s DJ area when a confrontation broke out. Jaleel wound up getting shocked with a Taser and arrested while friends hustled DeMarcus out of the place.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/andy-furillo/article120107843.html#storylink=cpy


Here's some context for anybody that wants it. What business does that reporter have with Cousins' brother? And he even had the audacity to mention him by name. Totally inappropriate, I don't blame Cousins for standing up for his family.
I don't understand why that's inappropriate. His brother is a professional basketball player too, albeit D-League.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#52 » by GimmeDat » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:20 am

I'm with DMC on this one. What a rubbish article trying to defend their rubbish coverage of Cousins. I'd be angry if I was him too, and definitely not keen to give answers with him around. He's an IRL troll.
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Post#53 » by WhatsaTDot » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:26 am

GimmeDat wrote:I'm with DMC on this one. What a rubbish article trying to defend their rubbish coverage of Cousins. I'd be angry if I was him too, and definitely not keen to give answers with him around. He's an IRL troll.


The difference between not being keen and actually talking to the media is the CBA.
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Post#54 » by bondom34 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:28 am

Yeah I'm going to read some background on this before jumping on Cousins.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#55 » by GimmeDat » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:35 am

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GimmeDat wrote:I'm with DMC on this one. What a rubbish article trying to defend their rubbish coverage of Cousins. I'd be angry if I was him too, and definitely not keen to give answers with him around. He's an IRL troll.


The difference between not being keen and actually talking to the media is the CBA.


I'm not saying how he responded is either appropriate or fulfilling his requirements. However, I empathize and understand why he did respond in that manner, and for that reason I'm more inclined to point the finger at the journalist than the player.

I don't really care for someone who pokes and prods and then cries victim when the person responds.
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Post#56 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:47 am

GimmeDat wrote:I'm with DMC on this one. What a rubbish article trying to defend their rubbish coverage of Cousins. I'd be angry if I was him too, and definitely not keen to give answers with him around. He's an IRL troll.

I agree. That article seemed to be trying to make the writer in to some hero who stood up to the big bad evil DMC. It was rather sickening to read and showed the bias.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#57 » by MrBigShot » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:09 am

evitcanI wrote:
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For Cousins, this is his second late-night outing on the club circuit this year that ended badly. In May, TMZ caught him at The DrYnk in Tampa with his younger brother, Jaleel. The celebrity gossip website reported that he and his brother were trying to get into the club’s DJ area when a confrontation broke out. Jaleel wound up getting shocked with a Taser and arrested while friends hustled DeMarcus out of the place.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/andy-furillo/article120107843.html#storylink=cpy


Here's some context for anybody that wants it. What business does that reporter have with Cousins' brother? And he even had the audacity to mention him by name. Totally inappropriate, I don't blame Cousins for standing up for his family.
I don't understand why that's inappropriate. His brother is a professional basketball player too, albeit D-League.


Because his brother is irrelevant to coverage of Cousins as an NBA player, there's no reason to include his name or the details of what happened to his brother during the outing.

It literally serves no purpose other than to spite Cousins and publicly shame his brother imo.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#58 » by Black Jack » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:02 am

Apparently Cousins is being considered as Trump's top peace negotiator....go figure :x
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Post#59 » by chrismikayla » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:04 am

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Kristaps6_NYK wrote:This guy has world of talent, but he's a piece of crap pure and simple. Such a disrespectful punk, I hope he stays in Sacremto on a horrible team all of his career

Perhaps the reporter is the one who is a disrespectful punk?

Leave his brother out of it and sounds like there would have been no issues.

Article seems to be a smear on Cousins. A lot of reporters, and their un-named sources, should be put in their place. I'm not saying that is this situation, but if there was a reporter present who I knew wrote BS about me, I'd refuse to speak with him there too. That doesn't make someone a bully.

Even if that's true Cousins is a professional athlete in the spotlight and should not respond in the manner he did. He is a great player but really needs to grow up.

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Post#60 » by qm22 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:31 am

Clicked the thread to see what people are trying to make a big deal about with DMC again. I think the sad thing is the lack of a free-market style correction of bad sports journalism and that the Kings don't revoke media credentials from guys with the intent to create a hit-piece and that disrupt their own locker room. It's just weird how it's a job where many don't get rewarded or punished for being good, mediocre, or terrible. (I noticed this with a lot of small scale papers -- maybe because coverage in printed newspaper has been dying).

Have a pattern of agendas, poor basketball knowledge, lack of insight, a preponderance for being deliberately misleading? Think you're not qualified to be in a NBA locker room and getting paid to give voice to your woeful opinions? Nope!
It's too bad because the Kings posters here seem informed and level-headed, the Kings should just grant the Sac Bee's media rights to those posters.

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