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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#81 » by Crazomali » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:30 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Is Cousins eligible for that new long-term veterans extension? If so, the Kings ought to extend him immediately. He loves Sacramento, they love him, and he could be their franchise player for the next decade.

Sounds like the best situation for them and him. He has brought a lot to that franchise already!

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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#82 » by patman52 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:36 pm

Kristaps6_NYK wrote:This guy has world of talent, but he's a piece of crap pure and simple. Such a disrespectful punk, I hope he stays in Sacremto on a horrible team all of his career


There is no such thing as being disrespectful to a sports reporter/ sports media member. It is akin to being forgiving to a deviant. All they are is parasites living off The relationship between fans and the teams they follow. Gone are the days where they represented fans as games were not broadcast or fans could never have any personal access to the players. Now with twitter, etc fans have direct contact and "reporters" now act like TMZ and the national enquirer. All they are interested in now are "hot takes" and trying to exacerbate issues your team may be having.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#83 » by miggs » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:40 pm

I can understand Cousins getting upset over the story being brought up again but he just can't be blowing up like that. If he gets traded and does the same bs at his next team then I can see Boogie out of the league after his next deal, at around age 33. Just too many incidents for him. It may not be all him but he definitely helps keep the fire alive from time to time.

Still, i doubt Sac trades him, don't think they have the guts to, instead i think he's going to leave in 2018.

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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#84 » by dc » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:45 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Is Cousins eligible for that new long-term veterans extension? If so, the Kings ought to extend him immediately. He loves Sacramento, they love him, and he could be their franchise player for the next decade.


Sounds like the best situation for them and him. He has brought a lot to that franchise already!


What exactly has he brought? Multiple playoff appearances? 50 win seasons?
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Not if people make calls on him. Not if an organization is doing their homework and knows all the things he brings with him.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#85 » by nfmos » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:57 pm

OsuCavsfan103 wrote:Boo F'in hooo. You want to keep your name and your brothers name out of the spotlight, don't do dumb crap. Don't go out and get into an altercation. Don't act like a giant dbag in the locker room. Reporters are like a brotherhood, you start acting wrong to one, more are going to jump on and fan the flames... and try to get a reaction. Which is exactly what Cousins gives them. He is a hotheaded guy, and he keeps giving fodder. There are players who get their lives scrutinized 5 times more (Curry, LeBon, formerly Kobe) and yet do you see then blowing up like this?

Calling a spade a spade, Cousins is a toxic team cancer.


This. All day this. Reporters, especially the local beat writers, has so much insight to how a player acts on a daily basis. I don't remember a player who has such bad relationships with local beat writers.

I don't see how people can defend him in this case. Cousins has a recent high profile incident in a club. Reporter writes a story about it, including another past high profile incident in a club which ended up in a tasering and arrest of somebody that was with him. Yes that happened to be his brother, but he is also in the public eye due to his own professional basketball career. It's not like he is some innocent teenager sitting at home that a reporter dragged into a story. That sounds more like thorough reporting instead of a smear job. It's not the reporters job to be Cousin's friend, its to tell the news, and nothing he said was false or fabricated.

So for someone doing their job, Cousins gets in his face, a 26 year old 7 footer threatening probably a 5 foot something 60 year old. How mature and professional is that? Again, this reporter didn't lie, and that passage regarding his brother was strictly reporting the facts.

Yes the Kings have been a mess for a while, but when will people step back and ask how much Cousin's himself has been a part of that? If he was on my team, I would put way less weight on the fact that he seems nice to the occasional fan interaction on the street, and more weight to the fact he keeps making enemies with the people he deals with on a regular basis.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#86 » by nfmos » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:10 pm

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Kristaps6_NYK wrote:This guy has world of talent, but he's a piece of crap pure and simple. Such a disrespectful punk, I hope he stays in Sacremto on a horrible team all of his career


There is no such thing as being disrespectful to a sports reporter/ sports media member. It is akin to being forgiving to a deviant. All they are is parasites living off The relationship between fans and the teams they follow. Gone are the days where they represented fans as games were not broadcast or fans could never have any personal access to the players. Now with twitter, etc fans have direct contact and "reporters" now act like TMZ and the national enquirer. All they are interested in now are "hot takes" and trying to exacerbate issues your team may be having.


Did the reporter lie or make anything up?

Both parties are doing a job, a player could either respect and understand that and use the relationship to their advantage too, like the Lebron, Curry, Jordan, etc, or they can fight it and deal with the natural consequences of that. If you are a jerk to the media that is covering you because that is their job, why should they try to sugarcoat anything with you?

There are lots of beat reporters that will look the other way or try to protect their local players if they feel that the players are good respectful people, but why should they do that if they are jerks to them?
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Post#87 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:21 pm

who cares if he punches people out or swears at reporters? Boys will be boys. Gay is leaving for free agency this year, and if Cousins leaves next year, what are the Kings going to do, rebuild around Willie Cauley-Stein and Ben McLemore?

The really good news for the Kings' franchise is that their loyal fans don't care how many games they win. So long as Cousins puts up numbers they're content because the know that it's not Cousins' fault.
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Post#88 » by JB2 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:23 pm

look I understand the concept of this click-bait/anoymous sources era of sports reporting and how frustrating that might be for players but Cousins needs to accept that he is a professional and he needs to carry himself that way. Ignore the guy, address via agents, or whatever other means for him to get the point but don't try and intimidate he guy physically or with with words. That type of stuff gets you tossed out some bars let alone in a place of business.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#89 » by patman52 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:31 pm

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Kristaps6_NYK wrote:This guy has world of talent, but he's a piece of crap pure and simple. Such a disrespectful punk, I hope he stays in Sacremto on a horrible team all of his career


There is no such thing as being disrespectful to a sports reporter/ sports media member. It is akin to being forgiving to a deviant. All they are is parasites living off The relationship between fans and the teams they follow. Gone are the days where they represented fans as games were not broadcast or fans could never have any personal access to the players. Now with twitter, etc fans have direct contact and "reporters" now act like TMZ and the national enquirer. All they are interested in now are "hot takes" and trying to exacerbate issues your team may be having.


Did the reporter lie or make anything up?

Both parties are doing a job, a player could either respect and understand that and use the relationship to their advantage too, like the Lebron, Curry, Jordan, etc, or they can fight it and deal with the natural consequences of that. If you are a jerk to the media that is covering you because that is their job, why should they try to sugarcoat anything with you?

There are lots of beat reporters that will look the other way or try to protect their local players if they feel that the players are good respectful people, but why should they do that if they are jerks to them?


Because the media knows that the players have to give them access. If the league took away that privilege and only extended it to media members of the TV and Radio that pay for broadcast rights. This reporter brought up a family member in a matter. Family members should be off limits to any inquiry to a player.

And you ask if he lied or made anything up, when this one time or in any past dealings with Cousins or in reporting on the team? and you don't have to make something up in order to cast a spin on something. That is my take on the media, they will try to spin something to the way they want it projected. As you mention with the players that feel need to cozy up to media. Why should they have to or suffer consequences if they don't?

You sure have seen the xxxxstorm that Brady caused by having a Trump hat in his locker. What is it anyone's business who the man votes for? How could that ever be considered a germane question to the teams performance.
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Post#90 » by kenwood3333 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:32 pm

Notice the quotes came from the bee, which is the publication the writer in question works for.
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#91 » by sacking123 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:50 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
This is what the writer wrote:



http://www.sacbee.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/andy-furillo/article120107843.html#storylink=cpy

Not really disrespectful, in my eyes. The writer offers no opinion on the matter and just presents a few facts regarding a previous incident that was in the public record. Cousins was entirely out of line.

So because TMZ reported that, it means it was "a few facts regarding a previous incident that was in the public record"?
Are you serious?
Wow it really doesn't take much for people to believe what is "reported" these days, and yes I know, I used to be one of these people.



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Jaleel cousins was tasered at a club. Do you disagree that this occurred, despite it being reported by multiple sources?

I didn't say either way if you read it properly.
Because it was reported by multiple sources though, come on that's hilarious. So because these trade rumour sites report a trade rumour and the next one reports it as well and so on, it gives it more weight? You must taken them for their word then right?


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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#92 » by nfmos » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:50 pm

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nfmos wrote:
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There is no such thing as being disrespectful to a sports reporter/ sports media member. It is akin to being forgiving to a deviant. All they are is parasites living off The relationship between fans and the teams they follow. Gone are the days where they represented fans as games were not broadcast or fans could never have any personal access to the players. Now with twitter, etc fans have direct contact and "reporters" now act like TMZ and the national enquirer. All they are interested in now are "hot takes" and trying to exacerbate issues your team may be having.


Did the reporter lie or make anything up?

Both parties are doing a job, a player could either respect and understand that and use the relationship to their advantage too, like the Lebron, Curry, Jordan, etc, or they can fight it and deal with the natural consequences of that. If you are a jerk to the media that is covering you because that is their job, why should they try to sugarcoat anything with you?

There are lots of beat reporters that will look the other way or try to protect their local players if they feel that the players are good respectful people, but why should they do that if they are jerks to them?


Because the media knows that the players have to give them access. If the league took away that privilege and only extended it to media members of the TV and Radio that pay for broadcast rights. This reporter brought up a family member in a matter. Family members should be off limits to any inquiry to a player.

And you ask if he lied or made anything up, when this one time or in any past dealings with Cousins or in reporting on the team? and you don't have to make something up in order to cast a spin on something. That is my take on the media, they will try to spin something to the way they want it projected. As you mention with the players that feel need to cozy up to media. Why should they have to or suffer consequences if they don't?

You sure have seen the xxxxstorm that Brady caused by having a Trump hat in his locker. What is it anyone's business who the man votes for? How could that ever be considered a germane question to the teams performance.


He brought up the family member, who is himself a professional basketball player and a public figure, because the topic was Cousins being involved in an incident at a club. His brother was with him in the last incident that resulted in an arrest, so the brother was named. Again, it wasn't some unrelated family incident irrelevant to the topic at hand, it was a incident very similar to the one that just happened, so it was mentioned.

As far as spin, you don't think the players and teams do this too? Everyone plays that game, that's why the team and players have their own PR consultants. And are you implying that Cousin's image is just part of a media spin conspiracy and not any fault of his own?
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Re: Cousins attempts to physically intimidate writer 

Post#93 » by patman52 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:53 pm

nfmos wrote:
patman52 wrote:
nfmos wrote:
Did the reporter lie or make anything up?

Both parties are doing a job, a player could either respect and understand that and use the relationship to their advantage too, like the Lebron, Curry, Jordan, etc, or they can fight it and deal with the natural consequences of that. If you are a jerk to the media that is covering you because that is their job, why should they try to sugarcoat anything with you?

There are lots of beat reporters that will look the other way or try to protect their local players if they feel that the players are good respectful people, but why should they do that if they are jerks to them?


Because the media knows that the players have to give them access. If the league took away that privilege and only extended it to media members of the TV and Radio that pay for broadcast rights. This reporter brought up a family member in a matter. Family members should be off limits to any inquiry to a player.

And you ask if he lied or made anything up, when this one time or in any past dealings with Cousins or in reporting on the team? and you don't have to make something up in order to cast a spin on something. That is my take on the media, they will try to spin something to the way they want it projected. As you mention with the players that feel need to cozy up to media. Why should they have to or suffer consequences if they don't?

You sure have seen the xxxxstorm that Brady caused by having a Trump hat in his locker. What is it anyone's business who the man votes for? How could that ever be considered a germane question to the teams performance.


He brought up the family member, who is himself a professional basketball player and a public figure, because the topic was Cousins being involved in an incident at a club. His brother was with him in the last incident that resulted in an arrest, so the brother was named. Again, it wasn't some unrelated family incident irrelevant to the topic at hand, it was a incident very similar to the one that just happened, so it was mentioned.

As far as spin, you don't think the players and teams do this too? Everyone plays that game, that's why the team and players have their own PR consultants. And are you implying that Cousin's image is just part of a media spin conspiracy and not any fault of his own?


No, he knows the rules in dealing with those parasites, he should shut up and pull a Bill Belichick/Marshaun Lynch I am just here because I don't want to get fined. The situation is what it is, they have access, I just wish they didn't. I am a fan of a team, I want that team to win, the team wants to win. The media wants to sell advertising, which one does not belong?
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Post#94 » by Hindenburg » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:00 pm

video of the incident

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Post#95 » by pantalones » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:28 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I'm with DMC on this one. What a rubbish article trying to defend their rubbish coverage of Cousins. I'd be angry if I was him too, and definitely not keen to give answers with him around. He's an IRL troll.


The difference between not being keen and actually talking to the media is the CBA.


I'm not saying how he responded is either appropriate or fulfilling his requirements. However, I empathize and understand why he did respond in that manner, and for that reason I'm more inclined to point the finger at the journalist than the player.

I don't really care for someone who pokes and prods and then cries victim when the person responds.


But there comes a point where you have to grow up, regardless of whether or not you were "offended". We don't have the right to not be offended.
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Post#96 » by alebaba » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:30 pm

Cousin will never win a chip or mount to anything good, dude is mentally weak. He get trigger way too easily, any guy can get into bis head, Rodman would've make him get ejected every game they play in.
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Post#97 » by j-ragg » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:39 pm

Hindenburg wrote:video of the incident


Those are all just obviously isolated incidents. The reporter provoked him first so that deserves a guy 3x your size threatening you.
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Post#98 » by nomansland » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:45 pm

Smitty731 wrote:As a member of the media, I can tell you the bigger issue is that the NBA and NBAPA have agreed to rules about interacting with the media. Cousins refused to talk or answer questions as long as the reporter in question was in the locker room. He has an obligation to talk because the CBA dictates that he will talk. He can pull a Marshawn Lynch if he wants and not answer anything, but he can't just refuse to talk because he doesn't like what was written.

As for my personal opinion, this is just the latest in a string of issues with Cousins. It started out as on the court stuff, but it has now spilled over to off the court. And several reports (a couple of which I can confirm through my own sources) are that multiple teams view him as untouchable. Some from GMs and some from ownership. I don't think it is as simple as "get him out of Sacramento and he'll improve." Old dogs, new tricks/tigers, stripes. Pick the one you want.

Oh and nothing the reporter wrote was remotely disrespectful. Like them or not, TMZ is a credible news gathering organization and is regularly cited in reports across all aspects of journalism. The reporter simply aggregated a number of facts related to questionable off the court behavior by Cousins. And he didn't like it. That is his right, but he made his bed and has to lie in it.


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Post#99 » by wojoaderge » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:51 pm

Who cares how big he is?
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Post#100 » by 3Diamantidis » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:54 pm

Yes he's immature, trouble maker, a guy who doesn't seem to realize how talented he is and what he can achieve by changing his behavior.
But he was right on that one.
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