Noel to <your team>

[hoosierdaddy34]

Bebe has officially become our backup C, getting regular minutes on a daily basis on a eastern contender. Putting up very decent numbers, if you look at advanced stats. He was just begging for playing time to prove himself.

And this may sound like im biased, but believe me when i say Delon Wright is the same way. He has potential to be really good but is trapped behind our depth chart (Lowry/Cojo). Very mature player for his age.

I truly believe Delon Wright can easily become your starting PG if given the chance (Yes he has potential to be that good). If you dont believe me, ask other raptor fans on our board. There are a lot that want trade joseph and make Delon our permanent backup.

So you're saying take those 2 out and we keep Covington then?

Bebe would be buried here and Wright's an unproven guy who's skillset doesnt really match what the Sixers would be looking for.

I didnt mean to imply these guys are worthless in general, I just dont see them having value to the Sixers.

Fair enough. Last i heard, was that Philly was looking for a PG. Hence I included Wright.

Ross + Bebe

for

Noel + Stauskas

I feel like there is a pick involved somewhere, but I dont know from which team. But that would be my base of the deal. Would you do that?

I turn this down if I'm Philly and I'm not a fan of theirs. Trading for Ross but losing Stauskus isn't the net gain Philly needs. They need more shooting, not just swapping out shooters.

Also why does Philly want yet another big man? Keep Bebe, he is in the deal solely to make Raptors fans feel better about making the value closer.

But honestly I think the only deal that interests Philly is Powell and salary to make it work for Toronto for Noel and a 2nd.

[Foshan]

Wiz 2017 unprotected 1st and Thomas Satoransky or trey burkee

Not sure WAS's willingness to actually do this, but the unprotected nature of the pick definately takes the cake in this thread. That said, two problems, WAS would have to look to move Gorat, I think people are only making a move for Noel to start him. Also, wAS (IMO) has the talent for the greatest improvement, so while an unprotected pick sounds good, I really think Noel sures up their D and makes them a great team.

[Foshan]

Spoiler:

So you're saying take those 2 out and we keep Covington then?

Bebe would be buried here and Wright's an unproven guy who's skillset doesnt really match what the Sixers would be looking for.

I didnt mean to imply these guys are worthless in general, I just dont see them having value to the Sixers.

Fair enough. Last i heard, was that Philly was looking for a PG. Hence I included Wright.

Ross + Bebe

for

Noel + Stauskas

I feel like there is a pick involved somewhere, but I dont know from which team. But that would be my base of the deal. Would you do that?

I turn this down if I'm Philly and I'm not a fan of theirs. Trading for Ross but losing Stauskus isn't the net gain Philly needs. They need more shooting, not just swapping out shooters.

Also why does Philly want yet another big man? Keep Bebe, he is in the deal solely to make Raptors fans feel better about making the value closer.

But honestly I think the only deal that interests Philly is Powell and salary to make it work for Toronto for Noel and a 2nd.

I agree. No need for bebe... and quite frankly given Philly's current situation would prefer Powell to Ross. I'm trying to avoid putting my own trades in this thread (as that isn't the point) but I think Philly would counter with Noel/Hollis for Wright/Powell. I know TOR fans thinks both our future super stars... but the team is trying to win now, and Ross is seemingly the one the coach is giving the minutes to and they are winning with him as the scoring power off the bench.

That said, i can't see Tor being the team that offers much for Noel as they have Val, bebe, & rookie who all play that position... would seem they would need another follow up trade.

[Foshan]

Can we have someone compile all these offers into one big post at the start?

Maybe help out the philly gm?

Done I will keep updating the first post, until i get to frustrated with offers i don't like

[WhatsaTDot]

I wish Toronto fans would stop talking about Powell as a future superstar. He was a great get as a 2nd round pick that we acquired as a throw in in the Vazquez deal. We should be happy he's a contributor without placing these all star expectations on him. Similarly with Ross; shoots the 3 extremely well now, above average defensively, solid 20+ mins per game contribution.

Edit: so as far as either goes, they provide us with great wing depth currently but IF the need is a more defensive minded center, then one or the other needs to be included in a Noel deal.

[miggs]

Wiz 2017 unprotected 1st and Thomas Satoransky or trey burkee

Not sure WAS's willingness to actually do this, but the unprotected nature of the pick definately takes the cake in this thread. That said, two problems, WAS would have to look to move Gorat, I think people are only making a move for Noel to start him. Also, wAS (IMO) has the talent for the greatest improvement, so while an unprotected pick sounds good, I really think Noel sures up their D and makes them a great team.

I agree it's the best deal but think there's a fair shot that 1st rd pick becomes a nice lotto pick. I don't see the Wiz becoming all that good this season just by acquiring Noel but im sure Wiz fans can elaborate on this much better than myself.

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[Foshan]

I'd like to see him end up in Minnesota and re-signed. I dont think he'd have much impact this year but I like him in years moving forward.

so what does that look like from MIN? surely an offer better than shabazz?

If you don't believe he wil have much impact this year, then why would you pay to have him on your team this year?

Spoiler:

If you don't need the potential production, let someone else carry the downside risk of injury or character this year. Surely a "closer look" is not worth a pick, unless you have no faith in your scouting department. If Noel suddenly becomes so amazing that you want to have him, overpay with cap space. Even if someone outbids your price point, you lost out on player that was more than you would pay, and kept your pick.

It's not just about fit. It's about handling your risk, and it's about how an expiring RFA contract works. If he had two years left on a rookie deal, then he might be worth more to a lottery team. With one year, your most interested buyers would be teams who can get value from him this season, like playoff contenders willing to rent him. But since he's not likely a max player, you are paying for the RFA rights to match the highest bidder.

- Not sure how you would argue he wouldn't have much impact now. When playing at C for Philly, he took us from being a team rated late 20s to 6ish, and that was a team full of scrubs. Put that on an offensively gifted team and i can't imagine a team that is not immediately impacted.

- while I agree it is a question of managing risk, I think it is much more likely that Noel doesn't even consider MIN as a destination. Considering it is pretty clear MIN needs defensive help, and Noel is arguably the best available now 9and this summer), I would think MIN would want to be in that conversation, and i think trading for noel is the only way that happens. imo

[TKainZero]

Can we have someone compile all these offers into one big post at the start?

Maybe help out the philly gm?

Done I will keep updating the first post, until i get to frustrated with offers i don't like

Thanks you very much for your work
I trust you can weed out the Anthony Bennett for Noel type trades...

I mean. Bennett was drafted first... Noel 6th

[jazzfan1971]

Noel for Rubio?

Or if you would rather Noel for Mack and Burks?

[Sportfan73]

So you're saying take those 2 out and we keep Covington then?

Bebe would be buried here and Wright's an unproven guy who's skillset doesnt really match what the Sixers would be looking for.

I didnt mean to imply these guys are worthless in general, I just dont see them having value to the Sixers.

Fair enough. Last i heard, was that Philly was looking for a PG. Hence I included Wright.

Ross + Bebe

for

Noel + Stauskas

I feel like there is a pick involved somewhere, but I dont know from which team. But that would be my base of the deal. Would you do that?

I turn this down if I'm Philly and I'm not a fan of theirs. Trading for Ross but losing Stauskus isn't the net gain Philly needs. They need more shooting, not just swapping out shooters.

Also why does Philly want yet another big man? Keep Bebe, he is in the deal solely to make Raptors fans feel better about making the value closer.

But honestly I think the only deal that interests Philly is Powell and salary to make it work for Toronto for Noel and a 2nd.

This has honestly become one of the deals I would be most happy with. Let Powell start at the 2 and we will see where it goes.


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[TKainZero]

Ideally...
For the lakers

Noel to lakers
Lakers send tarrick black to Cleveland for liggins or mcree or pick or combination of value which is sent to philky

Lakers send Lou Williams to contender looking for scoring for other assets going to philly.


Philly would get 2-3 assets including prospects and picks

Cleveland gets a center
A 3rd team gets scoring


Lakers keep Clarkson as a 6th man and add Noel with mozgov at backup (mozgov problem is saved til zubac becomes NBA level)

Or trade clarkson. And figure out Lou/black later.
Nick young also could be moved for something

[Foshan]

Noel for Rubio?

Or if you would rather Noel for Mack and Burks?

Min fans seem pretty against giving that much value for noel (which is fine since Rubio would be such a bad fit).

Would Utah really be looking to do something like that? is this in conjunction with a Favors move?
Also, seems like your coach has a bit of an obsession with Mack?

[DusterBuster]

Noel for Rubio?

Or if you would rather Noel for Mack and Burks?

Min fans seem pretty against giving that much value for noel (which is fine since Rubio would be such a bad fit).

Would Utah really be looking to do something like that? is this in conjunction with a Favors move?
Also, seems like your coach has a bit of an obsession with Mack?

Wait, are there still fans under the impression Rubio still has a ton of value?

[Foshan]

Noel for Rubio?

Or if you would rather Noel for Mack and Burks?

Min fans seem pretty against giving that much value for noel (which is fine since Rubio would be such a bad fit).

Would Utah really be looking to do something like that? is this in conjunction with a Favors move?
Also, seems like your coach has a bit of an obsession with Mack?

Wait, are there still fans under the impression Rubio still has a ton of value?

Basically all that MIN has offered (in this thread) is Shabazz or Jones/2nd which is basically nothing. I'd assume Rubio is of greater value than that? (Shrink specifically stated being against Rubio for Noel also)

[DusterBuster]

Min fans seem pretty against giving that much value for noel (which is fine since Rubio would be such a bad fit).

Would Utah really be looking to do something like that? is this in conjunction with a Favors move?
Also, seems like your coach has a bit of an obsession with Mack?

Wait, are there still fans under the impression Rubio still has a ton of value?

Basically all that MIN has offered (in this thread) is Shabazz or Jones/2nd which is basically nothing. I'd assume Rubio is of greater value than that? (Shrink specifically stated being against Rubio for Noel also)

I mean, it's obviously fairly subject as far as what one persons view of trade value is, however I'd have both Noel and Rubio right around the same spot in terms of trade value, that being an expiring and a middle first rounder. That's not to say I think Rubio for Noel is a deal that makes sense (Philly basically already has Rubio minus the defense in Sergio), just that I don't see one guy being wildly more valuable in general than the other.

[GQ Hot Dog]

Ezeli (expiring and not expected to play) and POR Lottery Protected 2017 pick.

Why make it any more complicated than Crabbe for Noel straight up? Resolves some of the money difficulties and allows Portland to keep their 1st round pick to add depth at reasonable contracts.

[Foshan]

Ezeli (expiring and not expected to play) and POR Lottery Protected 2017 pick.

Why make it any more complicated than Crabbe for Noel straight up? Resolves some of the money difficulties and allows Portland to keep their 1st round pick to add depth at reasonable contracts.

Because Philly doesn't want to pay crabbe 21M per after his trade kicker.

[eagereyez]

Ezeli (expiring and not expected to play) and POR Lottery Protected 2017 pick.

Why make it any more complicated than Crabbe for Noel straight up? Resolves some of the money difficulties and allows Portland to keep their 1st round pick to add depth at reasonable contracts.

Because Philly doesn't want to pay crabbe 21M per after his trade kicker.

And Crabbe just isn't very good in general. He's a negative value in any trade.

[Dupp]

Philly is really gonna lose out here, Noel is gonna be a defensive stud his whole career. Whoever gets him for the value hes valued at at the moment are gonna get a steal

[KF10]

Noel for Willie Caulie-Stein.

Potential defensive stud for a potential defensive stud.

Maybe a switch of environment can jump start to something real good for both players?