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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#281 » by DaGawd » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:28 am

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ClydeRules wrote:No way we should trade Oak for a midrange pick. If we're lucky that pick will become Oak...in another 5 years so what's the point?

In this draft? That's crazy talk. You absolutely move OQuinn for a mid first rounder if you can. He's not that special...


There's no way a team does it. A Portland, for example, would could really use KOQ wouldn't do it because their pick could still be quite high. Say, Dame gets injured tomorrow or the lottery balls swing their way. Even if they felt like nobody in their range would be worth it. Draft night is a different story altogether because everyone knows who they get.

Midseason, teams trade players for the likes of KOQ. On that note - I would take Aminu and Vonleh for KOQ and Lance.

Agreed it's not likely, but some people are saying they wouldn't do it if offered..which would be insane
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

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DaGawd wrote:In this draft? That's crazy talk. You absolutely move OQuinn for a mid first rounder if you can. He's not that special...


There's no way a team does it. A Portland, for example, would could really use KOQ wouldn't do it because their pick could still be quite high. Say, Dame gets injured tomorrow or the lottery balls swing their way. Even if they felt like nobody in their range would be worth it. Draft night is a different story altogether because everyone knows who they get.

Midseason, teams trade players for the likes of KOQ. On that note - I would take Aminu and Vonleh for KOQ and Lance.

Agreed it's not likely, but some people are saying they wouldn't do it if offered..which would be insane


It would. Especially since the Knicks are stacked at C.

Willy has the 2nd highest PER amongst all rooks.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#283 » by Greenie » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:19 am

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There's no way a team does it. A Portland, for example, would could really use KOQ wouldn't do it because their pick could still be quite high. Say, Dame gets injured tomorrow or the lottery balls swing their way. Even if they felt like nobody in their range would be worth it. Draft night is a different story altogether because everyone knows who they get.

Midseason, teams trade players for the likes of KOQ. On that note - I would take Aminu and Vonleh for KOQ and Lance.

Agreed it's not likely, but some people are saying they wouldn't do it if offered..which would be insane


It would. Especially since the Knicks are stacked at C.

Willy has the 2nd highest PER amongst all rooks.

How has Vonleh been?
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

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DaGawd wrote:Agreed it's not likely, but some people are saying they wouldn't do it if offered..which would be insane


It would. Especially since the Knicks are stacked at C.

Willy has the 2nd highest PER amongst all rooks.

How has Vonleh been?

Meh. But he's still young
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#285 » by Greenie » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:21 am

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It would. Especially since the Knicks are stacked at C.

Willy has the 2nd highest PER amongst all rooks.

How has Vonleh been?

Meh. But he's still young

Ehh

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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#286 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:08 pm

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ClydeRules wrote:No way we should trade Oak for a midrange pick. If we're lucky that pick will become Oak...in another 5 years so what's the point?

In this draft? That's crazy talk. You absolutely move OQuinn for a mid first rounder if you can. He's not that special...

A mid 1st for KOQ would be a straight up STEAL...you'd be crazy not to take that deal. That is the definition of selling high...that would be an A+ trade for the Knicks
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Post#287 » by Sark » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:24 pm

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Nope. Nerlens is an oft injured malcontent with a bad attitude. Thought he could've been as good as Theo Ratliff but I was wrong.

How exactly is he a malcontent with a bad attitude? Only bad I've heard from him, was lack of playing time. He has too much talent not to be playing.


He should've had his agent address it behind closed doors. Publicly complaining and cussing makes him a malcontent with a bad attitude by definition.



He did that to get himself traded. He didn't say a thing for 4 years, but for the first time says he wants more playing time and now he's a malcontent? You must view Boogie Cousins as a complete sociopath if Noel is a malcontent for asking for pt.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#288 » by reub » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:39 pm

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ClydeRules wrote:No way we should trade Oak for a midrange pick. If we're lucky that pick will become Oak...in another 5 years so what's the point?

In this draft? That's crazy talk. You absolutely move OQuinn for a mid first rounder if you can. He's not that special...

A mid 1st for KOQ would be a straight up STEAL...you'd be crazy not to take that deal. That is the definition of selling high...that would be an A+ trade for the Knicks


I'd venture to say that most midround picks never reach the level of ability where Oakman is today. And it'll take some of the ones who do 3 or more years to get there.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#289 » by IllmaticHandler » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:45 pm

Knick fans waste alot of thought on nothing. We not getting a mid first for KOQ. That much should be obvious. If you had a mid round pick in this draft would you trade it for KOQ? the answer by most would be NO.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#290 » by Fat Kat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:16 pm

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Nutty Nats Fan wrote:How exactly is he a malcontent with a bad attitude? Only bad I've heard from him, was lack of playing time. He has too much talent not to be playing.


He should've had his agent address it behind closed doors. Publicly complaining and cussing makes him a malcontent with a bad attitude by definition.



He did that to get himself traded. He didn't say a thing for 4 years, but for the first time says he wants more playing time and now he's a malcontent? You must view Boogie Cousins as a complete sociopath if Noel is a malcontent for asking for pt.


4 years? He missed his first season completely, and Embid hasn't been healthy until this season. He's not complaining about losing, he's complaining about PT. Coming from a player who hasn't even been healthy this season, is the textbook definition of a malcontent. As for Boogie, he's an idiot. Don't know why you even mentioned him.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#291 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:17 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:Knick fans waste alot of thought on nothing. We not getting a mid first for KOQ. That much should be obvious. If you had a mid round pick in this draft would you trade it for KOQ? the answer by most would be NO.


playing devils advocate he may be our starting center by the end of the week.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#292 » by Sark » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:28 pm

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He should've had his agent address it behind closed doors. Publicly complaining and cussing makes him a malcontent with a bad attitude by definition.



He did that to get himself traded. He didn't say a thing for 4 years, but for the first time says he wants more playing time and now he's a malcontent? You must view Boogie Cousins as a complete sociopath if Noel is a malcontent for asking for pt.


4 years? He missed his first season completely, and Embid hasn't been healthy until this season. He's not complaining about losing, he's complaining about PT. Coming from a player who hasn't even been healthy this season, is the textbook definition of a malcontent. As for Boogie, he's an idiot. Don't know why you even mentioned him.



What does missing the first year have to do with anything. The only reason he fell to them was that he was injured and couldn't play the first year. If he were healthy he would've been the first pick.

I mentioned Boogie because he does quite a bit more than ask for playing time, yet we have people here that are fiending to trade picks for him, and he is a true malcontent to the 10th degree.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#293 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:33 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:Knick fans waste alot of thought on nothing. We not getting a mid first for KOQ. That much should be obvious. If you had a mid round pick in this draft would you trade it for KOQ? the answer by most would be NO.


or other players with established value? we look like crazy people.

hold up... why don't we try to get klay thompson for KO? golden state could use some frontcourt help.

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Post#294 » by swisscheeseD » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:38 pm

Per Woj, Tony Allen may be available...

Not advocating moving O'Quinn, I think Lance and a 2nd put us in the running...but Tony Allen is exactly the type of player that can help improve the defensive mentality / identity of this ball club.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#295 » by Fat Kat » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:45 pm

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He did that to get himself traded. He didn't say a thing for 4 years, but for the first time says he wants more playing time and now he's a malcontent? You must view Boogie Cousins as a complete sociopath if Noel is a malcontent for asking for pt.


4 years? He missed his first season completely, and Embid hasn't been healthy until this season. He's not complaining about losing, he's complaining about PT. Coming from a player who hasn't even been healthy this season, is the textbook definition of a malcontent. As for Boogie, he's an idiot. Don't know why you even mentioned him.



What does missing the first year have to do with anything. The only reason he fell to them was that he was injured and couldn't play the first year. If he were healthy he would've been the first pick.


You tell me. You said he hasn't said anything in 4 years as if that was an accomplishment. What exactly was there to be said by a player with a broken leg?

I mentioned Boogie because he does quite a bit more than ask for playing time, yet we have people here that are fiending to trade picks for him, and he is a true malcontent to the 10th degree


I've never lobbied for Cousins. He's a franchise killer. Still don't know why you mentioned him to accentuate your point.
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Post#296 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:50 pm

swisscheeseD wrote:Per Woj, Tony Allen may be available...

Not advocating moving O'Quinn, I think Lance and a 2nd put us in the running...but Tony Allen is exactly the type of player that can help improve the defensive mentality / identity of this ball club.


he would for sure, I just see KOQ need much more with Noah being a dud.

Holiday has actually played really well and I wouldn't want to cut him out of the rotation.
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Post#297 » by HEZI » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:50 pm

swisscheeseD wrote:Per Woj, Tony Allen may be available...

Not advocating moving O'Quinn, I think Lance and a 2nd put us in the running...but Tony Allen is exactly the type of player that can help improve the defensive mentality / identity of this ball club.


But why would Memphis want to move him? I was just thinking yesterday how I would love TA on the Knicks but no way is Memphis moving him.
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Re: Source: Teams inquiring on Kyle O'Quinn 

Post#298 » by gavran » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:54 pm

blueNorange wrote:o'quinn's of the nba come and go all the time.

So are every other player that you can trade O'Quinn for. Including late 1st round picks.
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Post#299 » by whocares1 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:55 pm

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swisscheeseD wrote:Per Woj, Tony Allen may be available...

Not advocating moving O'Quinn, I think Lance and a 2nd put us in the running...but Tony Allen is exactly the type of player that can help improve the defensive mentality / identity of this ball club.


But why would Memphis want to move him? I was just thinking yesterday how I would love TA on the Knicks but no way is Memphis moving him.


There are very few unmoveable players in the NBA. Tony Allen is not one of them.
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Post#300 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:59 pm

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swisscheeseD wrote:Per Woj, Tony Allen may be available...

Not advocating moving O'Quinn, I think Lance and a 2nd put us in the running...but Tony Allen is exactly the type of player that can help improve the defensive mentality / identity of this ball club.


But why would Memphis want to move him? I was just thinking yesterday how I would love TA on the Knicks but no way is Memphis moving him.


There are very few unmoveable players in the NBA. Tony Allen is not one of them.


He might as well be. He's still one of the NBA's best defenders and is a big reason why Memphis has the best dRTG in the NBA. Unless you're giving up a valuable asset, you're not getting him.

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