Bradley Beal - Part III

nuposse04 · Post #401 » by **nuposse04** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:20 am

I think his willingness to attack a bit more and the fact he is establishing himself as a premier scorer may earn him some more love from the refs to help stave off any "hot" shooting decline.

Over the last few games his hesitation moves have looked great, he also seems to be actually using pump fakes more. If he can get an effective post game in the next couple off seasons he may have a full array at his disposal.

It'll also be interesting to see if he can create some "gravity" on the court opening up even more looks for others as defenses try harder to shut him down.

Darko Miliminutes · Post #402 » by **Darko Miliminutes** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:02 pm

He's going to start getting more calls too. He's establishing himself as marketable for the league. And that'll get you some extra calls.

Nice to have people finally seeing the potential.

Wizardspride · Post #403 » by **Wizardspride** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:19 pm

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tontoz · Post #404 » by **tontoz** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:02 pm

His ORTG is up to 118 on the season, and his scoring rate per 36 is up 3 pts from last year.

He is getting into MIP territory.

dobrojim · Post #405 » by **dobrojim** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:13 pm

Darko Miliminutes wrote:He's going to start getting more calls too. He's establishing himself as marketable for the league. And that'll get you some extra calls.

Nice to have people finally seeing the potential.

seems to me he's showing signs of having learned a few of the veteran
tricks to get himself to the line. His FTAs were inflated yesterday with
the multiple Ts he shot but even so...

Post #406 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:43 pm

His dribble penetration seems to have improved dramatically. They showed his shooting chart during the last game - every shot was either a 3 or a layup/dunk. It'd be interesting to hear who was the person (or website?) that got through to him regarding shot selection.

deneem4 · Post #407 » by **deneem4** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:38 pm

Ruzious wrote:His dribble penetration seems to have improved dramatically. They showed his shooting chart during the last game - every shot was either a 3 or a layup/dunk. It'd be interesting to hear who was the person (or website?) that got through to him regarding shot selection.

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DCZards · Post #408 » by **DCZards** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:36 pm

Ruzious wrote:His dribble penetration seems to have improved dramatically. They showed his shooting chart during the last game - every shot was either a 3 or a layup/dunk. It'd be interesting to hear who was the person (or website?) that got through to him regarding shot selection.

I'm guessing that Brooks and his staff have helped improve Beal's shot selection...but I'd give BB's personal maturation a lot of the credit as well. His taking fewer long 2s and attacking the basket more is actually a trend that emerged last season.

Dat2U · Post #409 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:05 pm

Where's my plate of crow?

I take back my suggestion of dealing Beal for Covington, Holmes & Noel

Beal has been amazing. I'd like to see a few more rebounds. Also his defensive intensity has been better lately after a brutal start but he can continue to improve on that end as well.

Right now he's playing like a top 60 player and a top 8 SG. Not quite worth $128 million but on par with say DeMar DeRozan. Definitely not a contract albatross. That's more that I could have ever imagined after the way he started the season.

Post #410 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:08 pm

DCZards wrote:
Ruzious wrote:His dribble penetration seems to have improved dramatically. They showed his shooting chart during the last game - every shot was either a 3 or a layup/dunk. It'd be interesting to hear who was the person (or website?) that got through to him regarding shot selection.

I'm guessing that Brooks and his staff have helped improve Beal's shot selection...but I'd give BB's personal maturation a lot of the credit as well. His taking fewer long 2s and attacking the basket more is actually a trend that emerged last season.

He had some solid streaks last season, but overall - his improvements in those areas were marginal.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #411 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:58 pm

Dat2U wrote:Where's my plate of crow?

I take back my suggestion of dealing Beal for Covington, Holmes & Noel

Beal has been amazing. I'd like to see a few more rebounds. Also his defensive intensity has been better lately after a brutal start but he can continue to improve on that end as well.

Right now he's playing like a top 60 player and a top 8 SG. Not quite worth $128 million but on par with say DeMar DeRozan. Definitely not a contract albatross. That's more that I could have ever imagined after the way he started the season.

I have to say that Beal his SHOCKED me.

Ordinarily, guys are who they've always been. It's generally easy to look at their previous production and to extrapolate what their future production will be.

All I will say about Beal is I know the dude is from a praying family. Anything's possible with prayer.

To those not so inclined to believe, let's just say Beal has improved phenomenally.

tontoz · Post #412 » by **tontoz** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:27 pm

There could be one other factor in play with Beal that i hadn't thought of before. He took some pretty bad spills taking it to the basket his first few years. His reluctance to take it to the basket could have been in part because he didnt want to risk an injury that would prevent him from signing a big contract.

Now he has the contract in hand so no matter what happens he is set for life financially. That may be part of the reason he is more willing to attack the basket now.

pcbothwel · Post #413 » by **pcbothwel** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:34 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Where's my plate of crow?

I take back my suggestion of dealing Beal for Covington, Holmes & Noel

Beal has been amazing. I'd like to see a few more rebounds. Also his defensive intensity has been better lately after a brutal start but he can continue to improve on that end as well.

Right now he's playing like a top 60 player and a top 8 SG. Not quite worth $128 million but on par with say DeMar DeRozan. Definitely not a contract albatross. That's more that I could have ever imagined after the way he started the season.

I have to say that Beal his SHOCKED me.

Ordinarily, guys are who they've always been. It's generally easy to look at their previous production and to extrapolate what their future production will be.

All I will say about Beal is I know the dude is from a praying family. Anything's possible with prayer.

To those not so inclined to believe, let's just say Beal has improved phenomenally.

I have had faith in Beal from the beginning more or less. Nivek was also quick to point out the timeline to write him off and that was this year. So it wasnt just a gut feeling, but one with some empirical evidence

But as to the "Gut" feeling... I was always struck by how he appeared confident, yet humble and calm. Like a man with a plan.
I hate to derail this thread into a family structure discussion, but I dont think Cowherd was completely wrong when he talks about high level athletes with strong men (Fathers and brothers) in their lives vs those who dont. Use our team as an example

Players who had their fathers in their lives and were role models:
Beal, Otto, and Oubre. All three come off as focused and respectful. They dont have an ounce of coward in them and are known hard workers who dont worry as much about Nightclubs and Instagram as they do about working on their craft.

Players who did not have their fathers in their lives:
Wall and Morris. I love Wall, but both of these guys wear their emotions on their sleeve and are inconsistent. They both enjoy the nightlife and have a hard time with being criticized.
Wall is the talker and will get in peoples face, but im here to tell you... If you put Wall and Beal in a room, Beal's the one coming out alive.

Again, I dont want this to derail the thread and there are always exceptions/outliers. But if im scouting a player, it's something that I take into consideration.

BigA · Post #414 » by **BigA** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:23 am

Will gladly eat crow if Bradley can play 70+ games.

Once had a love...and it was a gas,
Bradley Beal's...made out of glass.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #415 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:11 am

pcbothwel wrote:Wall is the talker and will get in peoples face, but im here to tell you... If you put Wall and Beal in a room, Beal's the one coming out alive.

I doubt that. Wall is a fighter whose been through some rough ****. He's the tough one.

Wall has also been way more consistent than Beal, way more ready to take over the mantle of leadership of the team. He was the unquestioned alpha and leader of his Kentucky team too. Wall is a better player than Beal and is tougher, smarter, and more precocious. If anything, I'd say his upbringing tempered him and made him grow up fast. Colin Cowherd's take was ignorant dog whistling and unequivocally wrong.

Wizardspride · Post #416 » by **Wizardspride** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:19 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #417 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:26 pm

pcbothwel wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Where's my plate of crow?

I take back my suggestion of dealing Beal for Covington, Holmes & Noel

Beal has been amazing. I'd like to see a few more rebounds. Also his defensive intensity has been better lately after a brutal start but he can continue to improve on that end as well.

Right now he's playing like a top 60 player and a top 8 SG. Not quite worth $128 million but on par with say DeMar DeRozan. Definitely not a contract albatross. That's more that I could have ever imagined after the way he started the season.

I have to say that Beal his SHOCKED me.

Ordinarily, guys are who they've always been. It's generally easy to look at their previous production and to extrapolate what their future production will be.

All I will say about Beal is I know the dude is from a praying family. Anything's possible with prayer.

To those not so inclined to believe, let's just say Beal has improved phenomenally.

I have had faith in Beal from the beginning more or less. Nivek was also quick to point out the timeline to write him off and that was this year. So it wasnt just a gut feeling, but one with some empirical evidence

But as to the "Gut" feeling... I was always struck by how he appeared confident, yet humble and calm. Like a man with a plan.
I hate to derail this thread into a family structure discussion, but I dont think Cowherd was completely wrong when he talks about high level athletes with strong men (Fathers and brothers) in their lives vs those who dont. Use our team as an example

Players who had their fathers in their lives and were role models:
Beal, Otto, and Oubre. All three come off as focused and respectful. They dont have an ounce of coward in them and are known hard workers who dont worry as much about Nightclubs and Instagram as they do about working on their craft.

Players who did not have their fathers in their lives:
Wall and Morris. I love Wall, but both of these guys wear their emotions on their sleeve and are inconsistent. They both enjoy the nightlife and have a hard time with being criticized.
Wall is the talker and will get in peoples face, but im here to tell you... If you put Wall and Beal in a room, Beal's the one coming out alive.

Again, I dont want this to derail the thread and there are always exceptions/outliers. But if im scouting a player, it's something that I take into consideration.

Men who have strong fathers are also men of mercy.

Brad would drag John out the room.

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Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #418 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:28 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
pcbothwel wrote:Wall is the talker and will get in peoples face, but im here to tell you... If you put Wall and Beal in a room, Beal's the one coming out alive.

I doubt that. Wall is a fighter whose been through some rough ****. He's the tough one.

Wall has also been way more consistent than Beal, way more ready to take over the mantle of leadership of the team. He was the unquestioned alpha and leader of his Kentucky team too. Wall is a better player than Beal and is tougher, smarter, and more precocious. If anything, I'd say his upbringing tempered him and made him grow up fast. Colin Cowherd's take was ignorant dog whistling and unequivocally wrong.

No doubt John would fight. He has that in his past. He is tough and not all talk.

However, when you grow up being shown how to work hard for everything and with not just a dad but also with football player brothers; it makes you tougher.

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Post #419 » by **nate33** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:29 pm

tontoz wrote:His ORTG is up to 118 on the season, and his scoring rate per 36 is up 3 pts from last year.

He is getting into MIP territory.

At this point, the debate is for runner-up for the Most Improved Player. Antetokounmpo has that award locked down.

tontoz · Post #420 » by **tontoz** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:07 pm

nate33 wrote:
tontoz wrote:His ORTG is up to 118 on the season, and his scoring rate per 36 is up 3 pts from last year.

He is getting into MIP territory.

At this point, the debate is for runner-up for the Most Improved Player. Antetokounmpo has that award locked down.

LOL hadn't thought about that. were you able to spell his last name without looking it up?