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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#221 » by NatP4 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:11 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:Can we trade our pick this year since we traded our pick last year?

Yes.

You can't trade consecutive future picks. The 2016 pick we traded is in the past so it is no longer relevant to the rule. We could trade our 2017 pick right now. And after the draft next summer, we would be eligible to trade our 2018 pick. And so on.

It was actually rhetorical - it means that EG will trade the pick to get in the playoffs :nonono:


He won't have to, we have now beat every team in the 1-8 slots with the exception of the cavs, raptors and heat, which we will beat this week, and only lost to them previously because Wall and Beal didn't play. Which team is supposed to scare the wizards other than Cleveland honestly? I know people want to see this team fail to try and get E.G. Fired, but they're actually pretty good, and Mahinmi hasn't even played yet, if this team stays relatively healthy, I have no clue how they would miss the playoffs in the eastern conference.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#222 » by tontoz » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:36 pm

NatP4 wrote:
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nate33 wrote:Yes.

You can't trade consecutive future picks. The 2016 pick we traded is in the past so it is no longer relevant to the rule. We could trade our 2017 pick right now. And after the draft next summer, we would be eligible to trade our 2018 pick. And so on.

It was actually rhetorical - it means that EG will trade the pick to get in the playoffs :nonono:


He won't have to, we have now beat every team in the 1-8 slots with the exception of the cavs, raptors and heat, which we will beat this week, and only lost to them previously because Wall and Beal didn't play. Which team is supposed to scare the wizards other than Cleveland honestly? I know people want to see this team fail to try and get E.G. Fired, but they're actually pretty good, and Mahinmi hasn't even played yet, if this team stays relatively healthy, I have no clue how they would miss the playoffs in the eastern conference.


We have also lost to Orlando twice and Philly. We have very little margin for error. If our starters have an off night or if any of our key players miss games we lose. Other teams are far more able to cope with injuries.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#223 » by nate33 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:47 pm

NatP4 wrote:
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nate33 wrote:Yes.

You can't trade consecutive future picks. The 2016 pick we traded is in the past so it is no longer relevant to the rule. We could trade our 2017 pick right now. And after the draft next summer, we would be eligible to trade our 2018 pick. And so on.

It was actually rhetorical - it means that EG will trade the pick to get in the playoffs :nonono:


He won't have to, we have now beat every team in the 1-8 slots with the exception of the cavs, raptors and heat, which we will beat this week, and only lost to them previously because Wall and Beal didn't play. Which team is supposed to scare the wizards other than Cleveland honestly? I know people want to see this team fail to try and get E.G. Fired, but they're actually pretty good, and Mahinmi hasn't even played yet, if this team stays relatively healthy, I have no clue how they would miss the playoffs in the eastern conference.

I'm still not giving EG any credit. If we do manage to be a mid-level team in the East, we're doing it on the backs of John Wall, Bradley Beal and Otto Porter. All 3 were top 3 picks and all were pretty much no-brainers. EG has done nothing that a 16 year old kid with a bookmark to Draft Express couldn't have done. Never forget that he turned the #13 pick and a 2nd round pick, plus $38M a year, into Mahinimi, Morris, Smith, Nicholson and Burke.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#224 » by NatP4 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:55 pm

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:It was actually rhetorical - it means that EG will trade the pick to get in the playoffs :nonono:


He won't have to, we have now beat every team in the 1-8 slots with the exception of the cavs, raptors and heat, which we will beat this week, and only lost to them previously because Wall and Beal didn't play. Which team is supposed to scare the wizards other than Cleveland honestly? I know people want to see this team fail to try and get E.G. Fired, but they're actually pretty good, and Mahinmi hasn't even played yet, if this team stays relatively healthy, I have no clue how they would miss the playoffs in the eastern conference.

I'm still not giving EG any credit. If we do manage to be a mid-level team in the East, we're doing it on the backs of John Wall, Bradley Beal and Otto Porter. All 3 were top 3 picks and all were pretty much no-brainers. EG has done nothing that a 16 year old kid with a bookmark to Draft Express couldn't have done. Never forget that he turned the #13 pick and a 2nd round pick, plus $38M a year, into Mahinimi, Morris, Smith, Nicholson and Burke.


A little out of context lol, Mahinmi hasn't played so it looks bad, Satoransky is also a part of that 38 mil and will turn out good I think. Burke was traded for a 2021 2nd rounder lol, if Morris plays like he did against the clippers every night, then that trade was brilliant, especially on that contract.

But I'm not saying give EG credit, I'm saying judge this team seperate from EGs failures, they are actually really good, and if Scott Brooks could've figured out some obvious things earlier on, they would have an even better record(playing Thornton 37 minutes against sixers, not using small ball lineup until now)

I will be watching for the Satoransky breakout and the Thornton benching from now on. That's the next step lol
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#225 » by tontoz » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:57 pm

NatP4 wrote: if Morris plays like he did against the clippers every night, then that trade was brilliant, especially on that contract.




anyone can look good if you only look at their best game of the season and ignore all the other games.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#226 » by NatP4 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:07 pm

tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote: if Morris plays like he did against the clippers every night, then that trade was brilliant, especially on that contract.




anyone can look good if you only look at their best game of the season and ignore all the other games.


I think Zach Lowe tweeted about him, but I'm pretty sure most people acknowledge that Keef can be a good player when he's locked in. He's had some other good games this year, and he's a had really good season in the NBA in 13-14? I think. you never know.
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Post#227 » by tontoz » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:20 pm

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tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote: if Morris plays like he did against the clippers every night, then that trade was brilliant, especially on that contract.




anyone can look good if you only look at their best game of the season and ignore all the other games.


I think Zach Lowe tweeted about him, but I'm pretty sure most people acknowledge that Keef can be a good player when he's locked in. He's had some other good games this year, and he's a had really good season in the NBA in 13-14? I think. you never know.



He has never had a good season. He has had one mediocre season. The rest were bad.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#228 » by nate33 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:49 pm

NatP4 wrote:
tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote: if Morris plays like he did against the clippers every night, then that trade was brilliant, especially on that contract.




anyone can look good if you only look at their best game of the season and ignore all the other games.


I think Zach Lowe tweeted about him, but I'm pretty sure most people acknowledge that Keef can be a good player when he's locked in. He's had some other good games this year, and he's a had really good season in the NBA in 13-14? I think. you never know.

Morris no doubt has some offensive skills, and he's a good man-to-man defender; but he is a poor rebounder and a poor team defender. With those two glaring liabilities, it's tough for me to envision him being anything more than a below-average starting PF. Help defense is absolutely critical in today's game because the hand-checking rules make it virtually impossible to stay in front of NBA-caliber PG's.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#229 » by NatP4 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:02 pm

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
tontoz wrote:

anyone can look good if you only look at their best game of the season and ignore all the other games.


I think Zach Lowe tweeted about him, but I'm pretty sure most people acknowledge that Keef can be a good player when he's locked in. He's had some other good games this year, and he's a had really good season in the NBA in 13-14? I think. you never know.

Morris no doubt has some offensive skills, and he's a good man-to-man defender; but he is a poor rebounder and a poor team defender. With those two glaring liabilities, it's tough for me to envision him being anything more than a below-average starting PF. Help defense is absolutely critical in today's game because the hand-checking rules make it virtually impossible to stay in front of NBA-caliber PG's.


I agree with you 100%, I think he should come off the bench and the offense should run through him as well as a Satoransky Mahinmi pick and roll combo. He had a good season in Phoenix coming off the bench and dropping buckets. His help D is terrible though.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#230 » by dobrojim » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:06 am

tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote: if Morris plays like he did against the clippers every night, then that trade was brilliant, especially on that contract.




anyone can look good if you only look at their best game of the season and ignore all the other games.


or as a friend of mine likes to say, every dog has its day.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#231 » by dobrojim » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:09 am

NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
I think Zach Lowe tweeted about him, but I'm pretty sure most people acknowledge that Keef can be a good player when he's locked in. He's had some other good games this year, and he's a had really good season in the NBA in 13-14? I think. you never know.

Morris no doubt has some offensive skills, and he's a good man-to-man defender; but he is a poor rebounder and a poor team defender. With those two glaring liabilities, it's tough for me to envision him being anything more than a below-average starting PF. Help defense is absolutely critical in today's game because the hand-checking rules make it virtually impossible to stay in front of NBA-caliber PG's.


I agree with you 100%, I think he should come off the bench and the offense should run through him as well as a Satoransky Mahinmi pick and roll combo. He had a good season in Phoenix coming off the bench and dropping buckets. His help D is terrible though.


Wait, you wanna run plays for Mahinmi? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but he's never been
known as an offensive threat.
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Re: GT: Clippers vs Wizards Sunday 3:30 ET 

Post#232 » by dckingsfan » Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:05 am

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:It was actually rhetorical - it means that EG will trade the pick to get in the playoffs :nonono:


He won't have to, we have now beat every team in the 1-8 slots with the exception of the cavs, raptors and heat, which we will beat this week, and only lost to them previously because Wall and Beal didn't play. Which team is supposed to scare the wizards other than Cleveland honestly? I know people want to see this team fail to try and get E.G. Fired, but they're actually pretty good, and Mahinmi hasn't even played yet, if this team stays relatively healthy, I have no clue how they would miss the playoffs in the eastern conference.

I'm still not giving EG any credit. If we do manage to be a mid-level team in the East, we're doing it on the backs of John Wall, Bradley Beal and Otto Porter. All 3 were top 3 picks and all were pretty much no-brainers. EG has done nothing that a 16 year old kid with a bookmark to Draft Express couldn't have done. Never forget that he turned the #13 pick and a 2nd round pick, plus $38M a year, into Mahinimi, Morris, Smith, Nicholson and Burke.

Yup and I still think he finds a way to trade the pick :)

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