BREAKING NEWS: Yanks to start negotiating with A-Rod

theknicks414 · Post #41 » by **theknicks414** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:00 pm

BREAKING NEWS

Boras won't negotiate with Yankees before season ends

ESPN.com news services

Updated: July 12, 2007, 11:10 AM ET

After the New York Yankees on Wednesday indicated they would break from tradition and negotiate during the season with Alex Rodriguez on a contract extension, his agent moved in quickly to define what it would take to keep the superstar third baseman playing in New York.

And that would be unprecedented millions per season.

In a telephone interview with the New York Post, Scott Boras said Rodriguez assuredly will become Major League Baseball's first $30 million-a-year player.

However, Boras said he will not take up the Yankees' offer to negotiate before the season ends.

"We are not going to be negotiating during the season," Boras said. Boras insisted he could see no way that strategy will change, saying "This is Alex's decision. This has been his policy, and I fully expect this to continue to be his policy."

MLB sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney that the Yankees were willing to negotiate with Rodriguez -- under the condition that he agrees not to opt out of his current contract after this season and that he agrees to tack on any extension to that deal, which expires after the 2010 season.

Even if his client doesn't go the opt-out route, Boras told the Post that there are existing stipulations in the current deal that all but guarantee Rodriguez would earn a minimum of $32 million in both the 2009 and 2010 seasons.

"The way the provision operates, he either gets that or he can become a free agent after any of those seasons again," Boras told the newspaper.

Approximately one-third of the remaining $81 million of the current contract is being paid by the Texas Rangers, which was part of the trade that brought Rodriguez to New York.

Though the Yankees are underperforming so far this season, it's not Rodriguez's fault. He led the major leagues at the All-Star break with 30 home runs and 86 RBIs and has a .317 average.

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cmaff051 · Post #42 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:26 pm

This is all posturing by Boras. He will do what Arod says. I still have doubts about whether he'll sign an extension midseason, or at all, but this is just plain ol' old-fashioned posturing by an agent who has made his living doing that.

Jitpal · Post #43 » by **Jitpal** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:33 pm

Here is my question. How much time is there between the end of the season and when Arod has to file the paperwork to opt out? Also are there rules against stipulating contract terms during that period?

If there is time to talk after the season then the Yankees have done their job. They have given Arod half the season. If you want to stay, we can extend you the day the season ends. Basically by saying we can break tradition for you means we can break the bank for you. So that means if Arod wants to stay here and wants an extension, just bring the numbers and we will sign the paperwork. At least that is how I see it. -Jitpal

cmaff051 · Post #44 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:44 pm

Jitpal wrote:Here is my question. How much time is there between the end of the season and when Arod has to file the paperwork to opt out? Also are there rules against stipulating contract terms during that period?

If there is time to talk after the season then the Yankees have done their job. They have given Arod half the season. If you want to stay, we can extend you the day the season ends. Basically by saying we can break tradition for you means we can break the bank for you. So that means if Arod wants to stay here and wants an extension, just bring the numbers and we will sign the paperwork. At least that is how I see it. -Jitpal

The deadline is 15 days after the World Series. That is one of the major reasons why the Yankees have opened the court for an extension midseason - they don't feel like they would have enough time to negotiate an extension before Arod had a chance to opt out this offseason.

DakkaFromNyc · Post #45 » by **DakkaFromNyc** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:47 pm

PacersRule07 wrote:
Money hasn't been a problem for the Yankees in a long time. If we can pay Roger Clemens 26 million or whatever it is for one season, we can sure as heck give AROD that type of money each season.

Money hasent been a problem for da Yanks but it could eventually be the way we r spendin it.

Y give Roger Clemens 26 million for ONE SEASON wen he said it wasent for them money but for da championship.

Who are we going to get to replace him at 3B? Who are we going to get for that type of power?

What bout Posada what other catacher do we have.

A-Rod is very valuable 2 this club and hopefully he just wants 2 stay for da pride and not da money

Post #46 » by **PR07** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:59 pm

We don't have a catcher outside of Jorge. However, Posada will probably be on the decline soon whereas AROD still has many great baseball years ahead of him. There is a difference.

DakkaFromNyc · Post #47 » by **DakkaFromNyc** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:54 pm

Im not sayin Posada should be gettin the money ARod is getting but we should also try our best 2 try and keep him in this club.

How u gonna say Posada will soon be on decline, he is havin his best year ever... he is not showin signs of slowing down

34Celtic · Post #48 » by **34Celtic** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:58 pm

nykgeneralmanager wrote:His body language is just different this season, he even looks happier than Jeter on a nightly basis when they show him in the dugout.

Sweet, because a happy guy on a team hovering around .500 is my dreaaaaaam boat. Yea right.

nykgeneralmanager wrote: Only one right handed hitter has ever hit 40 home runs in Yankee Stadium, it was Joe D and he only did it once. ARod's 35 and 36 homers in 2004 and 2006 are nothing to laugh at. He hit 45 in 2004 and SHOULD hit 50+ this year. He has been an elite player in pinstripes, even with his struggles.

Dude, he hits the ball so hard to the opposite field that he should hit mroe home runs than other right handed hitters.

Post #49 » by **PR07** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:57 pm

You're in denial if you think Posada will not start to decline a bit in the near future. That's just age, even the great Jerry Rice eventually got old...some guys age faster than others, but it hits everyone at around the same time. I'm not saying we shouldn't resign Posada because we definately should, but resigning ARod should be the top priority (although Mo is definately up there). We aren't talking about just a good player, we are talking about a player who is going to be one of the greatest ever when he hangs it up.

cmaff051 · Post #50 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:00 pm

PacersRule07 wrote:You're in denial if you think Posada will not start to decline a bit in the near future. That's just age, even the great Jerry Rice eventually got old...some guys age faster than others, but it hits everyone at around the same time. I'm not saying we shouldn't resign Posada because we definately should, but resigning ARod should be the top priority (although Mo is definately up there). We aren't talking about just a good player, we are talking about a player who is going to be one of the greatest ever when he hangs it up.

People are in denial if they think Arod isn't going to decline over the next few years, especially big-time at the end of his contract if he gets extended until he is 38-40.

Post #51 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:26 pm

Sweet, because a happy guy on a team hovering around .500 is my dreaaaaaam boat. Yea right.

What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about him turning the corner mentally in New York, nothing about our record. So I don't even know why I'm responding to you.

Dude, he hits the ball so hard to the opposite field that he should hit mroe home runs than other right handed hitters.

Yeah he should, and he does. So...

DakkaFromNyc · Post #52 » by **DakkaFromNyc** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:41 pm

PacersRule07 wrote:You're in denial if you think Posada will not start to decline a bit in the near future. I'm not saying we shouldn't resign Posada because we definately should, but resigning ARod should be the top priority (although Mo is definately up there).

Im sayin sayin POSADA is gonna be as graet as he is this year for years 2 come, im just sayin the things he does is also important.

I also agree wit u that resiginin ARod should be ontop of our list of things 2 do.

Pharmcat · Post #53 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:34 am

lol boras and arod both said no and to wait till end of year

wow the yanks got burned on this one

Post #54 » by **PR07** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:05 am

cmaff051 wrote:People are in denial if they think Arod isn't going to decline over the next few years, especially big-time at the end of his contract if he gets extended until he is 38-40.

AROD has at least 5 great offensive years left...I'm talking MVP like #'s. Posada probably has two really good offensive years left at the most.
Even as AROD ages, he's still going to be a really good hitter. He may not be able to carry a lineup, but even in his mid-late 30's, he will be a key contributor.

cmaff051 · Post #55 » by **cmaff051** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:14 am

PacersRule07 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

AROD has at least 5 great offensive years left...I'm talking MVP like #'s. Posada probably has two really good offensive years left at the most.
Even as AROD ages, he's still going to be a really good hitter. He may not be able to carry a lineup, but even in his mid-late 30's, he will be a key contributor.

5 great offensive years? And you know this how? How many hitters in the history of baseball have provided MVP production all the way until they were 38??

Let's not forget to factor in injuries. Arod hasn't been injured for his entire career but they said the same thing about Griffey.

I hate giving 7-8 year deals to players. Look how it came back to burn us with Giambi.

meatball sub · Post #56 » by **meatball sub** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:25 am

Via ESPNEWS: A Rod to NYY: "We'll talk at the end of the season."

I don't know how that is supposed to be interpretted.

Post #57 » by **PR07** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:31 am

First of all, AROD is only 31...about to turn 32. In five years, he will be 37. He's a great hitter, even if some of the power leaves him...he still has great plate vision and awareness. I still suspect he has a lot of monster years ahead of him. Injuries are a part of the game, AROD has shown no signs of being injury plagued. Sure, you can mention Griffey, but then you can also mention Cal Ripken Jr. There are no red flags right now that we should be weary of, and it would be incredibly stupid to not offer AROD a longterm big money contract because we're afraid he might get hurt when there is nothing to indicate this. If we don't, someone else will.

Giambi was on steroids, we were all fooled on that one. What about guys like Manny who continue to hit the ball...and continue to make all-star games even in their mid-thirties?

AROD is the motor behind our offense right now, and until someone convinces me that we can replace him with a big power..big RBI guy, there is no reason we should let him go. Right now there is no one like that in our farm system...and just aging sluggers on the free agent horizon with the exception of Mark Teixeira.

34Celtic · Post #58 » by **34Celtic** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:51 pm

PacersRule07 wrote:You're in denial if you think Posada will not start to decline a bit in the near future. That's just age, even the great Jerry Rice eventually got old...some guys age faster than others,

Compare Jorge to a running back, because that is what its like to be a catcher. You're body gets beat the f up.

cmaff051 · Post #59 » by **cmaff051** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:59 pm

Jorge has only been catching for 6 full years now in the majors. And that he was a converted position player in the minors. Keep that in mind.

34Celtic · Post #60 » by **34Celtic** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:09 pm

cmaff051 wrote:Jorge has only been catching for 6 full years now in the majors. And that he was a converted position player in the minors. Keep that in mind.

This is Jorge's tenth season in a row catching at least 111 games, his 8th season catching at least 138.