Game 27: Minnesota Timberwolves (7-19) vs Phoenix Suns (8-19) - 7PM - Target Center FSN/NBATV

Merc_Porto · Post #141 » by **Merc_Porto** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:28 am

Arooooo !
Nice

Nick K · Post #142 » by **Nick K** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:28 am

Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:Their attacking PG's have 44 pts tonight. Our Pg's have 16. Huge difference to make up.

Our starting frontcourt has 64 points tonight. Theirs has 19. Huge difference to make up.

Yes. No doubt. Just think how good it would be if we had one of those attacking PG's too. We'd have the best of both worlds.

subwayJ · Post #143 » by **subwayJ** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:30 am

Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:Their attacking PG's have 44 pts tonight. Our Pg's have 16. Huge difference to make up.

Our starting frontcourt has 64 points tonight. Theirs has 19. Huge difference to make up.

Yes. No doubt. Just think how good it would be if we had one of those attacking PG's too. We'd have the best of both worlds.

There is only so many shots in a game of basketball. Not everyone can eat.

Post #144 » by **Klomp** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:32 am

Sure, I'd love it if everybody in our starting 5 averaged 20 ppg. Tell me a team that has ever had that in league history though...

NewWolvesOrder · Post #145 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:32 am

Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:Their attacking PG's have 44 pts tonight. Our Pg's have 16. Huge difference to make up.

Our starting frontcourt has 64 points tonight. Theirs has 19. Huge difference to make up.

Yeah, I never understood this flawed argument. Teams have their scorers located at different positions. The fare and logical one is option 1 vs option 1 and so on down the line.

Nick K · Post #146 » by **Nick K** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:33 am

subwayJ wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:Our starting frontcourt has 64 points tonight. Theirs has 19. Huge difference to make up.

Yes. No doubt. Just think how good it would be if we had one of those attacking PG's too. We'd have the best of both worlds.

There is only so many shots in a game of basketball. Not everyone can eat.

It's so great to have that option. Wreaks havoc on the defense and balances things out. All the great teams today have one.

Post #147 » by **Klomp** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:34 am

Suns PGs shot 16-31
Everyone else shot 20-49

NewWolvesOrder · Post #148 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:35 am

Let's be honest here. It was a weak sauce win. Suns are trash. So we are not there yet. Played better ball vs Rockets.

Post #149 » by **Klomp** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:37 am

Nick K wrote:It's so great to have that option. Wreaks havoc on the defense and balances things out. All the great teams today have one.

Most teams don't have two 20 ppg scorers on the wing and a third in the post.

Post #150 » by **Klomp** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:38 am

NewWolvesOrder wrote:Let's be honest here. It was a weak sauce win. Suns are trash. So we are not there yet. Played better ball vs Rockets.

Counts the same in the record book as a win vs. HOU would have.

Nick K · Post #151 » by **Nick K** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:39 am

77 pts for Wigs, Zach, and Towns tonight. Pretty amazing. They do it night after night.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #152 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:41 am

Klomp wrote:
NewWolvesOrder wrote:Let's be honest here. It was a weak sauce win. Suns are trash. So we are not there yet. Played better ball vs Rockets.

Counts the same in the record book as a win vs. HOU would have.

Klompy, I'm talking about the quality of play. If played like tonight vs a better opponent it would be a very sorry loss.

LesGrossman · Post #153 » by **LesGrossman** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:42 am

Nick K wrote:
subwayJ wrote:
Nick K wrote:
Yes. No doubt. Just think how good it would be if we had one of those attacking PG's too. We'd have the best of both worlds.

There is only so many shots in a game of basketball. Not everyone can eat.

It's so great to have that option. Wreaks havoc on the defense and balances things out. All the great teams today have one.

All the great teams? Name some please. I can only think of one great team right now with four volume scorers. Either you have a scoring point guard whose attempts would not be available for Towns wiggins and Lavine or you have a pass first point guard. And ultimately our model worked and theirs lost. Instead of looking at the currently hyped team and claim "all great teams do it this way" maybe look at the ageless spurs and how they do it. Thats good basketball. What you say is true, you need some guys who can single handedly break down a defense. I dont see why it would have to be the PG though; that is the worst position for that skill because what happens is the Westbrook of early. Take inbound pass, dribble for 22 seconds, take a hard shot. Repeat. What happens to your team mates? They go cold and eventually wont put much effort into D. We have three guys who can get theirs, i dont see why we would need a Westbrook or Lillard or Wall or Walker in this System that Thibs has, and that revolves around the three guys takign an obscene number of shots.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #154 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:42 am

Nick K wrote:77 pts for Wigs, Zach, and Towns tonight. Pretty amazing. They do it night after night.

Yes, but you're still bitching about the scorers we lack.

Nick K · Post #155 » by **Nick K** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:43 am

Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:It's so great to have that option. Wreaks havoc on the defense and balances things out. All the great teams today have one.

Most teams don't have two 20 ppg scorers on the wing and a third in the post.

That has nothing to do with what I'm saying. It's a flat out luxury/necessity to have strong PG play.

Post #156 » by **Klomp** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:43 am

Friendly reminder: we are only 4 games out of the playoffs with 55 games to go

NewWolvesOrder · Post #157 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:44 am

Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:It's so great to have that option. Wreaks havoc on the defense and balances things out. All the great teams today have one.

Most teams don't have two 20 ppg scorers on the wing and a third in the post.

That has nothing to do with what I'm saying. It's a flat out luxury/necessity to have strong PG play.

lol, so the former or the latter? What are you blubbering about?

Nick K · Post #158 » by **Nick K** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:45 am

NewWolvesOrder wrote:
Nick K wrote:77 pts for Wigs, Zach, and Towns tonight. Pretty amazing. They do it night after night.

Yes, but you're still bitching about the scorers we lack.

I'm just saying it's nice to have a PG who can break a defese down. Are you saying it isn't?

Post #159 » by **Klomp** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:46 am

Nick K wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Nick K wrote:It's so great to have that option. Wreaks havoc on the defense and balances things out. All the great teams today have one.

Most teams don't have two 20 ppg scorers on the wing and a third in the post.

That has nothing to do with what I'm saying. It's a flat out luxury/necessity to have strong PG play.

Which is it? Luxury and necessity are two very different things.

And it's simple math...if you're getting 60% of your points from other positions on the floor, it means your PGs probably aren't going to provide much offense compared to teams where the other starters only score 50% of the points.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #160 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:47 am

Nick K wrote:
NewWolvesOrder wrote:
Nick K wrote:77 pts for Wigs, Zach, and Towns tonight. Pretty amazing. They do it night after night.

Yes, but you're still bitching about the scorers we lack.

I'm just saying it's nice to have a PG who can break a defese down. Are you saying it isn't?

I'm saying you're quite a bitchy fan.