GT: Brooklyn Nets @ Toronto Raptors - Tuesday, 12/20/16 7:30pm B-Lo OUT

[MrDollarBills]

PP, just hear his frustration and try to understand it. We are in their house, and others from three other teams warned them about what can happen with fans when Lin joins the team. They don't want that to get out of control. Rooting not for the team and just for Lin or being so "Lin-centric" in game threads is a common mistake that we are making.

Let's all breathe and try to keep the Lin stuff in the Lin forums per the guidelines. When it comes to the game threads, it's about how the whole team can get a win. If you think Lin should do more to help the team, that's fine. But to help the team and in the way expressed by the management, developing good habits for sustained good play and giving themselves a chance to win. That way we share in their spirit and purpose of this particular forum.

I'm NYC born and raised, followed the Nets on and off for decades, but I haven't invested in this team like some of the others here have. I get their frustration with the previous team and the number Billy King did on the franchise, and their belief that the new coach and GM are doing things that can lead to more positives results and feelings going forward with the franchise. That's really the most important thing here.

There are moderators in this forum who do a good job of curtailing excessive Lin posts and Lin fan haters as well. I am very careful to not bring Lin up in game threads except when it makes sense based on the game situation. On the contrary some people jump to conclusions and bring Lin into the thread based upon their inherent prejudices.

If you want to take the side of an obsessive hater and bully that's your business but don't lecture me.

I hope by hater you don't mean Lin hater. Dollarbills has been extremely high on Lin since I think his signing.

I lobbied for us to get Lin over guys like Rondo in free agency and frankly i haven't been disappointed. Great guy on and off the floor, he plays hard, and he gives us much needed leadership. The numbers don't lie, he was an excellent signing, we're just going through a rough patch as a team right now.

[ChokeFasncists]

A third of the season passed by, and I think this team has regressed. The first week we were moving the ball well and everyone was playing hard, in a good system meant for a team with close to no talent. Now I don't know what they're doing anymore. ISO after ISO, TO after TO, zero effort in transition D. So much for "character" and "development".

Unfortunately, the reason is probably Lin. It's the first game he's back to the starting lineup. Everything is thrown off. Everyone was used to playing a certain way (motion offense/dump it down to BroLo) but now has to adjust.

Lets give them some time. The synthesis might lead to something better?

I don't think it's Lin, I think we need to adjust to how teams are defending us period. Some of the open threes that we saw earlier on are being taken away and the coach/players need to adjust.

Since when?

If it's this game, BroLo being out certainly would affect how our threes were being defended before. Scola being the substitute didn't help either.

Lin being back IMO threw off the rhythm of some guys. I mean, both Bogs and SKil had one of their very worst scoring games of the season.

It could also be the Raptors' D, but I doubt that's all there is to it.

[MrDollarBills]

Unfortunately, the reason is probably Lin. It's the first game he's back to the starting lineup. Everything is thrown off. Everyone was used to playing a certain way (motion offense/dump it down to BroLo) but now has to adjust.

Lets give them some time. The synthesis might lead to something better?

I don't think it's Lin, I think we need to adjust to how teams are defending us period. Some of the open threes that we saw earlier on are being taken away and the coach/players need to adjust.

Since when?

If it's this game, BroLo being out certainly would affect how our threes were being defended before. Scola being the substitute didn't help either.

Lin being back IMO threw off the rhythm of some guys. I mean, both Bogs and SKil had one of their very worst scoring games of the season.

It could also be the Raptors' D, but I doubt that's all there is to it.

It could be a rhythm issue but i think the scouting report is out on the Nets, teams are ready for the three point bombs now and are getting hands in guys faces.

[bws94]

Unfortunately, the reason is probably Lin. It's the first game he's back to the starting lineup. Everything is thrown off. Everyone was used to playing a certain way (motion offense/dump it down to BroLo) but now has to adjust.

Lets give them some time. The synthesis might lead to something better?

I don't think it's Lin, I think we need to adjust to how teams are defending us period. Some of the open threes that we saw earlier on are being taken away and the coach/players need to adjust.

Since when?

If it's this game, BroLo being out certainly would affect how our threes were being defended before. Scola being the substitute didn't help either.

Lin being back IMO threw off the rhythm of some guys. I mean, both Bogs and SKil had one of their very worst scoring games of the season.

It could also be the Raptors' D, but I doubt that's all there is to it.

I think Skil, because he's an attacker and I think Lin being back has him more in-between. I think that'll work out. Bogs gets the ball and shoots it, he's either missing or making. I don't think Lin being back is the reason.

[ChokeFasncists]

I don't think it's Lin, I think we need to adjust to how teams are defending us period. Some of the open threes that we saw earlier on are being taken away and the coach/players need to adjust.

Since when?

If it's this game, BroLo being out certainly would affect how our threes were being defended before. Scola being the substitute didn't help either.

Lin being back IMO threw off the rhythm of some guys. I mean, both Bogs and SKil had one of their very worst scoring games of the season.

It could also be the Raptors' D, but I doubt that's all there is to it.

I think Skil, because he's an attacker and I think Lin being back has him more in-between. I think that'll work out. Bogs gets the ball and shoots it, he's either missing or making. I don't think Lin being back is the reason.

Bogs is definitely not strictly a CnS player. Even for CnS, the way the passes were made would make a difference. Lin is kinda herky-jerky and unpredictable.

[ChokeFasncists]

I don't think it's Lin, I think we need to adjust to how teams are defending us period. Some of the open threes that we saw earlier on are being taken away and the coach/players need to adjust.

Since when?

If it's this game, BroLo being out certainly would affect how our threes were being defended before. Scola being the substitute didn't help either.

Lin being back IMO threw off the rhythm of some guys. I mean, both Bogs and SKil had one of their very worst scoring games of the season.

It could also be the Raptors' D, but I doubt that's all there is to it.

It could be a rhythm issue but i think the scouting report is out on the Nets, teams are ready for the three point bombs now and are getting hands in guys faces.

That's certainly true. OTOH, for the past seven games, with the exception of the Spurs games, they were all either close or we won. We were already doing a lot more of dumping it down to Lopez. This game was a different animal.

For the coming two games we are gonna have most of our elements, unfortunately we are going to be facing the best two teams in the league. Anyways, lets see if the original plan of: defense/motion offense first, Lin drive (and kick) second, dump it down to Brook third, BrookLin PnR fourth could be realized.

[bws94]

Since when?

If it's this game, BroLo being out certainly would affect how our threes were being defended before. Scola being the substitute didn't help either.

Lin being back IMO threw off the rhythm of some guys. I mean, both Bogs and SKil had one of their very worst scoring games of the season.

It could also be the Raptors' D, but I doubt that's all there is to it.

I think Skil, because he's an attacker and I think Lin being back has him more in-between. I think that'll work out. Bogs gets the ball and shoots it, he's either missing or making. I don't think Lin being back is the reason.

Bogs is definitely not strictly a CnS player. Even for CnS, the way the passes were made would make a difference. Lin is kinda herky-jerky and unpredictable.

I agree, but, Bogs will still do what he does with the ball. He'll drive it, dribble around and make his moves and then shoot it or occasionally pass it, but he doesn't seem that much thrown off by Lin unless he's getting a pass out of a Lin drive that you never know quite when he'll past it, how much will be on it, or what angle it'll come from. Or even if he'll pass it to you or at all.

[ChokeFasncists]

I think Skil, because he's an attacker and I think Lin being back has him more in-between. I think that'll work out. Bogs gets the ball and shoots it, he's either missing or making. I don't think Lin being back is the reason.

Bogs is definitely not strictly a CnS player. Even for CnS, the way the passes were made would make a difference. Lin is kinda herky-jerky and unpredictable.

I agree, but, Bogs will still do what he does with the ball. He'll drive it, dribble around and make his moves and then shoot it or occasionally pass it, but he doesn't seem that much thrown off by Lin unless he's getting a pass out of a Lin drive that you never know quite when he'll past it, how much will be on it, or what angle it'll come from. Or even if he'll pass it to you or at all.

Well, I dunno about that, he made one CnS three and missed everything else.