2017 NBA Draft Strongest In A Decade

[blueNorange]

They say that every year.

nah fam they've been talking about this great draft class for 2-3 years now.

I'm just not in love with this draft like some. I think Fultz, Ball and Jackson are going to take some time to get accumulated to the NBA.

the only person on that list that'll need adjusting is ball and that's because unless he's wide open he'll be useless on offense(unless it's passing)

[EchelonNYK]

I'm sorry man. I just don't see any franchise changers in this draft. Nice pieces, yes.

[kane2021]

2001 NBA draft was supposed to be a franchise changer too. You just never know.


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[IllmaticHandler]

Yeah this class was hyped for the longest. Prob the longest Hype of any recent class.

id say since 2003, but that was mostly all lebron

For a Bunch of H.S or straight one and done yeah. Melo raised his stock really only in that freshman year. I don't remember much hype about him.

[blueNorange]

Yeah this class was hyped for the longest. Prob the longest Hype of any recent class.

id say since 2003, but that was mostly all lebron

For a Bunch of H.S or straight one and done yeah. Melo raised his stock really only in that freshman year. I don't remember much hype about him.

melo did raise his stock in march but he was always highly touted. but it was just that lebron was a once in a life time talent so the buzz always was about him.

that 2003 draft was great, churned out so
many productive players.

[NYKMentality85]

Yeah this class was hyped for the longest. Prob the longest Hype of any recent class.

id say since 2003, but that was mostly all lebron

Your little subliminal messages formed around Melo head shots is a bit extreme.

"That was mostly all LeBron".

I guess you forgot about all the hype surrounding Carmelo Anthony while coming out. After Anthony himself led Syracuse to their 1st (and only) NCAA National Championship (during only Melo's freshman year) the hype surrounding Melo was 100x stronger than any kid from this years draft class.

Including Fultz, who barely has his team over .500.

[blueNorange]

Yeah this class was hyped for the longest. Prob the longest Hype of any recent class.

id say since 2003, but that was mostly all lebron

Your little subliminal messages formed around Melo head shots is a bit extreme.

"That was mostly all LeBron".

I guess you forgot about all the hype surrounding Carmelo Anthony while coming out. After Anthony himself led Syracuse to their 1st (and only) NCAA National Championship (during only Melo's freshman year) the hype surrounding Melo was 100x stronger than any kid from this years draft class.

Including Fultz, who barely has his team over .500.

honestly what are you babbling about? melo had a great college season but got the attention during march. 2003 draft was always about lebron. teams were tanking to get him, not melo.

lebron was getting his hs games broadcasted on espn when he was a freshman, he was that big of a buzz

illmatic didn't take that as a jab, because it wasn't.

stop quoting me lol

[KnickJunior]

so who's this year's "Porzingis"?

[NYKnicksTAPE]

I'm hoping we can get Ntilikina

there's nothing I want more than a young, talented guard prospect on this team

[magnumt]

We've been talking about it in the college threads since last draft how stacked 2017 is

Not sure why this isn't being talked about more here. (Maybe I missed the thread?)

The 2017 NBA Draft will be the "strongest in a decade", according to multiple NBA scouts and general managers. Chad Ford projects 10-15 potential All-Stars in the class, headlined by Markelle Fultz.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244356/GMs-Calling-2017-NBA-Draft-Strongest-In-A-Decade

We will likely be getting one of those players. Also, the NBA cap is going up more than expected, meaning:

Knicks will have plenty of salary cap room to build around Kristaps Porzingis.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/nba-rising-salary-cap-knicks-build-porzingis-article-1.2917916?cid=bitly

Josh Jackson

--Mags

[Polk377]

It always seems to be the years the draft is stacked the Knicks either don't have a pick or out of the lottery because the team is playing well.....

Hopefully they can find a diamond in the rough this year. I like Miles Bridges if he decides to come out this year. Could develop into a really good wing player.

I am also glad they have 2 2nd rounders as well and hoping someone ends up falling due to the talent in this draft. Grayson Allen in the 2nd after this nonsensical tripping scandal would be great.

[Fat Kat]

so who's this year's "Porzingis"?

Clarence Gaines JR. will keep that to himself until we pick.

[taikibansei]

we know, which why it sucks the knicks won't be in the lottery. so many good pg talent.

Again, it seems to be a deep draft, meaning that there will be good-decent players available into the late teens. Moreover, there appear to be no LeBrons in the draft this year--i.e., no transcendental, franchise-changing talents worth tanking for. Just a lot of good players. Accordingly, at least to me, this seems the perfect time to try to win.

What's the point of trying to "win" now (when we have no chance of getting past the Cavs, let alone GSW)? As the 76ers and Twolves keep demonstrating, you can't build winners just through the draft (unless, say, you luck into a LeBron or a Duncan). Good but not great young players--and both teams have a number of good players--do **** without veteran leadership. You need a balance between good youth and good vets, with at least one superstar (more than one in recent years) on the roster.

The problem is how to get those good vets. As I've written before, having "gobs of cap space" but no recent winning pedigree is fool's gold in today's NBA. The best players, the one's that can really make a difference, are going to get the same amount of money wherever they go. Thanks to the Internet, players no longer need "big markets" to make their "brand." Winning is much more important, particularly winning in the playoffs. That's why teams like the 76ers, Twolves, Nets and Knicks haven't been able to even get interviews with--let alone sign--major free agents for years. It's a Catch 22--teams seeking to rebuild now need to win at least enough to show potential to free agents (but at the same time lose enough to get good draft picks). By signing the current mix of young and old talent, Phil has tried to do just this. It's a risk, certainly...but a calculated one.

Though as the absence of Rose recently showed, one serious injury to Rose or to Melo or to KP and we'll be a lottery team...most likely high lottery. We just don't have the defense in place to compete without offensive contributions from all three. And frankly, given their ages/medical histories, there's a good chance either Rose or Melo will miss substantial time later this season.

I just hope we are good enough long enough to demonstrate potential to good FAs before the inevitable injury happens.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Just because there's not a LeBron does not mean it's not a high level draft - there are a bunch of franchise cornerstones. I'd much rather get one of the top tier prospects than one of the lower ones, but I've given up on that dream.

[Carl_Karlson]

[DrCoach]

If we can draft a nice , long, athletic, 1 or 2, I'll be happy

[E-Balla]

nah fam they've been talking about this great draft class for 2-3 years now.

I'm just not in love with this draft like some. I think Fultz, Ball and Jackson are going to take some time to get accumulated to the NBA.

the only person on that list that'll need adjusting is ball and that's because unless he's wide open he'll be useless on offense(unless it's passing)

Fultz is a monster off the bounce and he can shoot but defensively he's trash. Jackson has no jumper and can't shoot freethrows at a decent level for a C as a SF. You already mentioned Ball but I think you misdiagnosed his problem. His real issue is his handles aren't creative because he's shown that stepback 3 is dangerous.

Either way all 3 are franchise guys along with Smith and Giles if he gets healthy.

Fultz is like a taller Dame, Jackson a smaller (Raptors) T-Mac, Ball a unicorn, Smith is Steve Francis, and Giles is like a 6-11 220 Julius Randle if he played D.

[E-Balla]

It always seems to be the years the draft is stacked the Knicks either don't have a pick or out of the lottery because the team is playing well.....

Hopefully they can find a diamond in the rough this year. I like Miles Bridges if he decides to come out this year. Could develop into a really good wing player.

I am also glad they have 2 2nd rounders as well and hoping someone ends up falling due to the talent in this draft. Grayson Allen in the 2nd after this nonsensical tripping scandal would be great.

We had the 4th pick in the deepest draft since 07 prior to this season.

Not sure if you were who I talked about Bridges with in the draft thread but he's the obvious bust in the draft if there is one. A stretch PF with a SG's size isn't a good look.

[fresko024]

Good think we have a pick..doesn't matter that it isn't a lottery pick. I have confidence in Clarence Gaines. We got WHG in the 2nd round...

[LBnySuaveJav23]

Just don't draft Melo Trimble, the board would explode.