George Karl at it again...

BBALLER4FR · Post #341 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:47 am

Greenie wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Greenie wrote:You upset?

I love baldheaded men with facial hair.

Get it Taylor!!!!

You described me to the "T" Greenie. So whassup?

I also described my husband

Cool, but just in case you're on the fence with this one, I'll leave this here.

ibraheim718 · Post #342 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:48 am

Greenie wrote:Abe there was a time Blacks weren't allowed to play in the NFL or NBA.
Sports have racial history too and it will never be swept under the rug.
Blacks couldn't go to these big universities. That's why HBCU's are around. You're talking 50 years ago Abe.

Blacks weren't allowed to play basketball when Karl was coaching?

ibraheim718 · Post #343 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:49 am

Bill Pidto wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:What's most pathetic about this is that Melo was a kid when all this was going down. Even if he was a jerk and was difficult to coach.. what is so groundbreaking about this type of stuff? We're talking about young kids who are brand new to being rich and famous. And yes, maybe some of them grew up without a father figure and need great coaching to become great professionals. That's why they're payin you millions to be the coach, Jack!

All I can say is that Melo has grown up quite a bit, even in just the 6 seasons he's been a Knick. He still holds the ball at times, and he's still not a great defender, but Knicks fans know how far Melo has come as a basketball player and as a man, and he doesn't need to be ashamed of where he came from or how he got here. No matter what George Karl or anyone on the internet says about the guy, he's a success story, and Karl knows that.

I'm only 30 years old and I look at kids in their early to mid 20s and see them as babies. I think back to when I was 19-24 and can't imagine how much I would have F'd up had someone given me 40 million dollars and told me I could have practically any girl I wanted. As a fan, I would be annoyed if I learned any player was being a distraction or getting in the way of the team's success, and I've even accused Melo of doing exactly that in the past. But as a middle-aged man, an experienced professional, and a highly-paid head coach in the NBA hired to be a teacher and a manager of egos.. you should know and understand what you're up against going into a job like that, and would only attack a former player - years later after he's turned 32 and has a wife and kids of his own - if you were desparate to sell a book.

That's exactly it.. but I wouldn't call it desperate. Isn't he still getting paid by ESPN?

Greedy and shameless might be better words than desperate.

You read biographies?

BBALLER4FR · Post #344 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:50 am

ibraheim718 vs. EVERYONE

ibraheim718 · Post #345 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:52 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:

Alright I'll dip. I knew reading this thread that y'all were going to be sensitive. I have bigger battles to fight in the future.

BBALLER4FR · Post #346 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:54 am

ibraheim718 wrote:Alright I'll dip. I knew reading this thread that y'all were going to be sensitive. I have bigger battles to fight in the future.

I'm not taking sides. I'm just watching the show. Pretend I'm not even here.

Greenie · Post #347 » by **Greenie** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:58 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
Greenie wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
You described me to the "T" Greenie. So whassup?

I also described my husband

Cool, but just in case you're on the fence with this one, I'll leave this here.

ibraheim718 · Post #348 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:58 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:Alright I'll dip. I knew reading this thread that y'all were going to be sensitive. I have bigger battles to fight in the future.

I'm not taking sides. I'm just watching the show. Pretend I'm not even here.

I just love me some old grumpy coaches. This conversation is really a basketball fraternity conversation so for me that's how I view it. I don't read into race.. George Karl has his place in the fraternity cemented. This is an old grump coach throwing kids that drove him crazy under the bus.

But the other truth is also.. it was Karl that cost the Nuggets a chance at a championship more than it was Melo with two of the most awfully designed in bounds plays in NBA history.

You've been here a while.. let's reminisce about the time I was the boards biggest Melo Stan. :lol:

Good times.. I should post some stuff from back then.

ibraheim718 · Post #349 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:59 am

Greenie wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Greenie wrote:I also described my husband

Cool, but just in case you're on the fence with this one, I'll leave this here.

What's up with that new avatar Baby.. you like avocados?

NYKMentality85 · Post #350 » by **NYKMentality85** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:01 am

George Karl: 27 years as head coach = 0 rings.

George Karl: Career losing playoff record of 62-83 (.427%).

Who is George Karl to criticize anyone?

Especially a future 1st ballot Hall of Famer of Melo's caliber who's an NCAA Champion, NBA Scoring Champion, 9x NBA All-Star, 1st & only 3x U.S.A Gold Medal Olympian and will go down as one of the greatest NBA Pure Scorers of All-Time (on pace to crack the top 10 in All-Time scoring and with good health, possibly top 5).

But yea. Right. I guess George Karl can hang on to his "whopping" 9 coach of the month awards after 27 years of coaching. Laughable.

And wasn't George Karl an NBA player from 1973-1978? How did his little 5 year NBA playing career go? He's a sad, angry & bitter person.

Greenie · Post #351 » by **Greenie** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:01 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:Abe there was a time Blacks weren't allowed to play in the NFL or NBA.
Sports have racial history too and it will never be swept under the rug.
Blacks couldn't go to these big universities. That's why HBCU's are around. You're talking 50 years ago Abe.

Blacks weren't allowed to play basketball when Karl was coaching?

Did I say that?
I'm stating history.
Can Karl be racist and yet coach blacks? Yes.
Do you think when integration was enforced all those coaches were happy? Just an example.

Greenie · Post #352 » by **Greenie** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:03 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
Cool, but just in case you're on the fence with this one, I'll leave this here.

What's up with that new avatar Baby.. you like avocados?

I hate them actually. I'm done with my crusade though. I'm tired. :giveup:

Greenie · Post #353 » by **Greenie** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:05 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Football hip hop??? No schit.. they're just like basketball. What's next you're going to try and convince me that Rick Rubin is a racist too?

Not at all.
Karl is the one running his mouth.

You don't get it.. he coached mostly young black men for over 30 years of his life. His fundamental hate for them because of their skin color was something he could look past in order to keep coaching them? And why didn't anyone ever in those 30 years working with young and old black men ever accuse him of being a racist before?

I believe it's been brought up with him before.

Post #354 » by **dakomish23** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:06 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Anti Melo dudes are the only Karl defenders in this thread.

I didn't have to read the thread to know this soapbox opportunity was not going to be passed up

History lesson: I've been defending Karl since before I was a "Melo-hater".. when I was considered a "Melo stan".

So you're saying if he made a bunch of negative comments about anyone, like KP or Lin back when he played for us, you'd be here caping for Karl?

ibraheim718 · Post #355 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:06 am

Greenie wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:Abe there was a time Blacks weren't allowed to play in the NFL or NBA.
Sports have racial history too and it will never be swept under the rug.
Blacks couldn't go to these big universities. That's why HBCU's are around. You're talking 50 years ago Abe.

Blacks weren't allowed to play basketball when Karl was coaching?

Did I say that?
I'm stating history.
Can Karl be racist and yet coach blacks? Yes.
Do you think when integration was enforced all those coaches were happy? Just an example.

That's highly unlikely. I'm sorry I disagree. Why would a guy that's a racist coach a bunch of people of the race he supposedly "hates" to success all while those people are making way more money than him? He could've done a bunch of other things for a living.

ibraheim718 · Post #356 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:07 am

dakomish23 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Anti Melo dudes are the only Karl defenders in this thread.

I didn't have to read the thread to know this soapbox opportunity was not going to be passed up

History lesson: I've been defending Karl since before I was a "Melo-hater".. when I was considered a "Melo stan".

So you're saying if he made a bunch of negative comments about anyone, like KP or Lin back when he played for us, you'd be here caping for Karl?

I love me some George Karl. Always have. My apologies. Yes.

Greenie · Post #357 » by **Greenie** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:08 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Blacks weren't allowed to play basketball when Karl was coaching?

Did I say that?
I'm stating history.
Can Karl be racist and yet coach blacks? Yes.
Do you think when integration was enforced all those coaches were happy? Just an example.

That's highly unlikely. I'm sorry I disagree. Why would a guy that's a racist coach a bunch of people of the race he supposedly "hates" to success all while those people are making way more money than him? He could've done a bunch of other things for a living.

That's fine. I've seen it with my own two eyes in my own world.

IllmaticHandler · Post #358 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:08 am

Abe your argument is weak if you are going to defend George is not a racist. You are using that because he works with Blacks for x amount of years means he would not be racist cause why would he work with people he don't like. Well last time I remember....Coaches CONTROL the team. He is the head banana when it comes to pecking order. What he says go(overseer) So yes a person who is racist can still be a coach and it works the way he would like it too. You acting like Karl was under somebody black being told what to do. These same black people that he controlled made him rich and famous...dont see how that can't super seed any hidden thoughts. Who cares there is no reports of him being racist. Donald Sterling was racist as **** for decades, and it only came out when it came out. If you going to argue the dude is not racist find a better argument than saying he worked(controlled) blacks for 30 years...how can he be racist.

ibraheim718 · Post #359 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:08 am

Greenie wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:Not at all.
Karl is the one running his mouth.

You don't get it.. he coached mostly young black men for over 30 years of his life. His fundamental hate for them because of their skin color was something he could look past in order to keep coaching them? And why didn't anyone ever in those 30 years working with young and old black men ever accuse him of being a racist before?

I believe it's been brought up with him before.

When you wake up PM a source. I don't remember. I know he's tough ass coach who was hard as hell on his players but I don't think I've ever heard him called a racist. Sleep tight sugar.

ibraheim718 · Post #360 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:10 am

Greenie wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Greenie wrote:

What's up with that new avatar Baby.. you like avocados?

I hate them actually. I'm done with my crusade though. I'm tired.

Nobody wins in this debate. George Karl is an Azzho.. Melo has grown up and turned into a upstanding citizen.. Karl has to get some credit for that too.