2016-17 Rookie Watch thread

Post #641 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:38 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Just for reference, the last two players who were all-NBA players in their rookie years are David Robinson (1989-90) and Tim Duncan (1997-98). That's how hard it is to come into the NBA and set the league on fire.

And they were 4 year (5 in Robinson's case, right?) seniors. The kids take a minute.

Robinson was actually six (6) years, because of his two-year military commitment. But yup, only two first ballot HOF players were able to do it in the last 28+ years of NBA basketball.

That said, Shaq and Alonzo put up some monster rookie numbers that would have landed them on All NBA teams in most eras. Alonzo stayed all 4 years but Shaq only stayed for 3.

Shaq put up 23/14/3.5 blocks and Alonzo put up 21/10/3.5. Different times.

R U Legit · Post #642 » by **R U Legit** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:37 pm

Buddy's shooting over 50% on 3s this month

#scrub

Rapcity_11 · Post #643 » by **Rapcity_11** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:45 pm

Slava wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Brandan Ingram probably had his best game as a pro tonight. Hope he can build on it.

He's essentially been playing point forward the entire season but yesterday was the first time he exclusively started at PG. If Mozgov had not blown an open dunk, he'd have had a triple double, which would have been amazing for an 18 year old.

He's been 19 his entire NBA career.

Post #644 » by **Slava** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:01 pm

Rapcity_11 wrote:
Slava wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Brandan Ingram probably had his best game as a pro tonight. Hope he can build on it.

He's essentially been playing point forward the entire season but yesterday was the first time he exclusively started at PG. If Mozgov had not blown an open dunk, he'd have had a triple double, which would have been amazing for an 18 year old.

He's been 19 his entire NBA career.

What are you, the census department now?

tsmith · Post #645 » by **tsmith** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:56 am

Slava wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
Slava wrote:
He's essentially been playing point forward the entire season but yesterday was the first time he exclusively started at PG. If Mozgov had not blown an open dunk, he'd have had a triple double, which would have been amazing for an 18 year old.

He's been 19 his entire NBA career.

What are you, the census department now?

Not sure how you can say that when someone simply corrects an incorrect stat.

Post #646 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:18 am

t_smith979 wrote:
Slava wrote:
Rapcity_11 wrote:
He's been 19 his entire NBA career.

What are you, the census department now?

Not sure how you can say that when someone simply corrects an incorrect stat.

Pretty sure he was joking.

tsmith · Post #647 » by **tsmith** » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:20 am

Marcus wrote:
t_smith979 wrote:
Slava wrote:
What are you, the census department now?

Not sure how you can say that when someone simply corrects an incorrect stat.

Pretty sure he was joking.

haha my bad then, I find it so hard to pick up sarcasm in text ahahah

islanders11040 · Post #648 » by **islanders11040** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:28 am

Watch on YouTube

Think this guy is getting overlooked a little bit? :dontknow:

PerkinsFor3 · Post #649 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:42 am

Sure, it's the D-League, but keep an eye on Utah Jazz rookie big man Bolomboy anyway:

I think he'll prove to be a better pro than loads of 2016 1st round picks. Could be a Milsapp type of player.

Post #650 » by **magnumt** » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:50 pm

islanders11040 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Think this guy is getting overlooked a little bit?

Whether it's Rebounding, Scoring, or Passing...what's amazing about Willy Hernangomez is that he does it with SUCH efficiency in limited time! :clap:

--Mags

hodgy#11 · Post #651 » by **hodgy#11** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:10 am

magnumt wrote:
islanders11040 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Think this guy is getting overlooked a little bit?

Whether it's Rebounding, Scoring, or Passing...what's amazing about Willy Hernangomez is that he does it with SUCH efficiency in limited time!

--Mags

What's Hornacek's deal with playing him?

He either plays important minutes or gets a DNP Coaches Decision?!

cruwinas · Post #652 » by **cruwinas** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:42 am

Young Domas Sabonis today after two quarters against Celtics:

14min, 7-7 FG, 3-3 3pt, total 17 points (Westbrook "just" 16 pts.)

Bernman · Post #653 » by **Bernman** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:55 am

cruwinas wrote:Young Domas Sabonis today after two quarters against Celtics:

14min, 7-7 FG, 3-3 3pt, total 17 points (Westbrook "just" 16 pts.)

Malcolm Brogdon finished 7-7, 3-3 3pt, for a total of 17 pts. Also pitched in 7 assists. Already calls for him to move into the starting lineup, after being drafted in the 2nd rd.

But Sabonis has been one of the better rookies this season too. His outside shooting this early has been surprising, ala Brogdog himself.

Alex DeLarge · Post #654 » by **Alex DeLarge** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:38 am

R U Legit wrote:Buddy's shooting over 50% on 3s this month

#scrub

All the way up to 33% on the season...

History will prove the Murray backers correct.

cruwinas · Post #655 » by **cruwinas** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:39 pm

Bernman wrote:
cruwinas wrote:Young Domas Sabonis today after two quarters against Celtics:

14min, 7-7 FG, 3-3 3pt, total 17 points (Westbrook "just" 16 pts.)

Malcolm Brogdon finished 7-7, 3-3 3pt, for a total of 17 pts. Also pitched in 7 assists. Already calls for him to move into the starting lineup, after being drafted in the 2nd rd.

But Sabonis has been one of the better rookies this season too. His outside shooting this early has been surprising, ala Brogdog himself.

I'm surprised that second season in a row (last season for Zags and now) Sabonis was able to adjust his game to better collective good and did that exceptionally well. Now Domas is roaming mostly around three point line thus leaving A LOT OF space in the paint for Super_0 to do demolition work inside.

Domas father was a pretty cool cat, but I think that temperature in Domas bloodstream is couple degrees lower. He is just concentrating with cold determination on the job he has to do on the floor. And is very upset cause he can give just 110%. Tries to squeeze couple more drops on every play

So far his learning curve is exceptionally steep. I just wonder, where will be the his final stop?

Defends very well, moves uncharacteristically quick for someone his size and has no problem scoring himself and in team offense overall. Smart kid.
Not gonna be rookie of the year, but in years to come, couple All-Star appearances wouldn't surprise me neither.

guille_4 · Post #656 » by **guille_4** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:58 pm

hodgy#11 wrote:
magnumt wrote:
islanders11040 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Think this guy is getting overlooked a little bit?

Whether it's Rebounding, Scoring, or Passing...what's amazing about Willy Hernangomez is that he does it with SUCH efficiency in limited time!

--Mags

What's Hornacek's deal with playing him?

He either plays important minutes or gets a DNP Coaches Decision?!

At the beginning of the season he had a problem with his TOs.

In the last 5 games, he's had only 2 TOs in 92 minutes!

Pachinko_ · Post #657 » by **Pachinko_** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:03 pm

Bernman wrote:
cruwinas wrote:Young Domas Sabonis today after two quarters against Celtics:

14min, 7-7 FG, 3-3 3pt, total 17 points (Westbrook "just" 16 pts.)

Malcolm Brogdon finished 7-7, 3-3 3pt, for a total of 17 pts. Also pitched in 7 assists. Already calls for him to move into the starting lineup, after being drafted in the 2nd rd.

17/7/3/2

Watch on YouTube

R U Legit · Post #658 » by **R U Legit** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:13 pm

Alex DeLarge wrote:
R U Legit wrote:Buddy's shooting over 50% on 3s this month

#scrub

All the way up to 33% on the season...

History will prove the Murray backers correct.

And King Murray is shooting 35% on the season :lol:

Alex DeLarge · Post #659 » by **Alex DeLarge** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:51 am

R U Legit wrote:
Alex DeLarge wrote:
R U Legit wrote:Buddy's shooting over 50% on 3s this month

#scrub

All the way up to 33% on the season...

History will prove the Murray backers correct.
And King Murray is shooting 35% on the season

If you take a step back from basic statistics and actually watch both players you will see that Murray's star-potential is astronomically higher than is Hield's, particularly when you factor in that Murray is 19 and Hield is 22. Murray had a bad start which has dragged his shooting numbers down. Since then, despite playing on a very deep Nuggets team, he has shown flashes of genuine brilliance on the offensive end. Hield has had a couple of decent games, but he has never looked like a future star.

I would love to see Hield become a consistent, productive player, but if I were a Pels fan I'd be furious. Murray could easily turn into the type of player that would be a perfect compliment to Davis, whereas Hield's ceiling looks to be a decent shooter off the bench.

Alex DeLarge · Post #660 » by **Alex DeLarge** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:53 am

And yes, Brogden looks a very nice player.

The Bucks' should be a 2-seed in 2-3 years.

Who will make the All Rookie 1st Team?