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The good things for Phoenix is that almost everybody makes sense for you, if Bledsoe gets moved eventually, a lead guard would work just fine, Fultz been the price, Ball could be workable too, defense could be a challenge with him and Booker tho, then Frank makes sense with Booker and Josh Jackson is like the ideal fit, whereas Tatum might be trickier due to been more of a PF, but hey you got Bender who can switch and work at different spots, so it's not that bad, even Dennis might be an option.
The fact that the bigs are awful in this class helps you guys a ton.
The fact that the bigs are awful in this class helps you guys a ton.
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DirtyDez wrote:Pitino taking Cal to school. The man can flat out coach. They got Monk in foul trouble and he was never the same. Great win for Louisville.
This will change a lot probably but the lottery in tiers IMO -
Fultz
Ball
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Jackson
Monk
Fox/Smith Jr
Tatum
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Isaac
Markkanen (probably overrated him a bit early on)
Rabb
OG
Don't know enough about Ntilikina but he could go anywhere...
I am comfy with like 15 guys, I got
Fultz
Jackson
Tatum
Ntilikina
DSJ
Giles
Ball
Anunoby
Isaac
Miles Bridges
Evans
Hart
Miles Bridges
RWilliams
Markkanen
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DirtyDez wrote:Pitino taking Cal to school. The man can flat out coach. They got Monk in foul trouble and he was never the same. Great win for Louisville.
This will change a lot probably but the lottery in tiers IMO -
Fultz
Ball
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Jackson
Monk
Fox/Smith Jr
Tatum
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Isaac
Markkanen (probably overrated him a bit early on)
Rabb
OG
Don't know enough about Ntilikina but he could go anywhere...
Yeah, everyone seems to be downgrading him a bit. Makes little sense to me, the guy's reputation only started dropping once injuries forced him to spend most of his time away from his natural position. I wish his arms were a little longer but I'd grab him top 5 without hesitation.
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I like TJ Leaf too. Big man seems like he can do everything and has a motor.
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gaspar wrote:
After reading all their strengths and weaknesses before any of college basketball started, I thought this was the guy we needed, and I think stated earlier in the thread. I shouldn't change that now if he is playing well. Of course I don't know the competition he plays against, but there are many guys I'd be happy with in this draft. But I'd love a distributor. One that can really shoot the 3 would be nice too, but I'd love a guy that first loved to pass but could also shoot the 3 well. I guess that sounds like Nash, who should have probably shot the 3 more. I guess I'd love another KJ, who could score 20-40 points on great efficiency and still get 10-15 assists, and not make Westbrook type bad decisions, but that's unlikely to happen.
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Yeah, a 6'5 PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who can pass and shoots very well from three definitely sounds very intriguing.
EDIT: BTW, McDonough picked the youngest player in the draft twice (Booker and Bender, Archie was 2nd youngest in his class). It looks like Frank will be the youngest player in the draft next year... You do the math.
EDIT: BTW, McDonough picked the youngest player in the draft twice (Booker and Bender, Archie was 2nd youngest in his class). It looks like Frank will be the youngest player in the draft next year... You do the math.
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Frank is nice, only not top 4 pick nice which we are likely going to get. It'd be real nice to have that laker pick right about now. 

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gaspar wrote:Yeah, a 6'5 PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who can pass and shoots very well from three definitely sounds very intriguing.
EDIT: BTW, McDonough picked the youngest player in the draft twice (Booker and Bender, Archie was 2nd youngest in his class). It looks like Frank will be the youngest player in the draft next year... You do the math.
Just looked at his stats in this tournament now
LOL
his handle looks very brandon knight-esque tho.
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kennydorglas wrote:gaspar wrote:Yeah, a 6'5 PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who can pass and shoots very well from three definitely sounds very intriguing.
EDIT: BTW, McDonough picked the youngest player in the draft twice (Booker and Bender, Archie was 2nd youngest in his class). It looks like Frank will be the youngest player in the draft next year... You do the math.
Just looked at his stats in this tournament now
LOL
his handle looks very brandon knight-esque tho.
Knight has pretty decent handles, it's the part after dribbling and over dribbling that he's terrible with
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I have kind of cooled of Ball....still hoping for Fultz or Jackson.
Who are we looking at for our 2nd Rounder?
Who are we looking at for our 2nd Rounder?
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darealjuice wrote:kennydorglas wrote:gaspar wrote:Yeah, a 6'5 PG with a 7 foot wingspan, who can pass and shoots very well from three definitely sounds very intriguing.
EDIT: BTW, McDonough picked the youngest player in the draft twice (Booker and Bender, Archie was 2nd youngest in his class). It looks like Frank will be the youngest player in the draft next year... You do the math.
Just looked at his stats in this tournament now
LOL
his handle looks very brandon knight-esque tho.
Knight has pretty decent handles, it's the part after dribbling and over dribbling that he's terrible with
Definitely not... it's not unusual to see him dribbling over his foot or even looking down as he's dribbling.
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kennydorglas wrote:darealjuice wrote:kennydorglas wrote:
Just looked at his stats in this tournament now
LOL
his handle looks very brandon knight-esque tho.
Knight has pretty decent handles, it's the part after dribbling and over dribbling that he's terrible with
Definitely not... it's not unusual to see him dribbling over his foot or even looking down as he's dribbling.
It's also not unusual to see him break ankles and cross people up on the way to the basket. Usually the dribbling off the foot comes from him over dribbling after the defense turns him in the first place.
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DaleyBlind wrote:I have kind of cooled of Ball....still hoping for Fultz or Jackson.
Who are we looking at for our 2nd Rounder?
If we take Jackson with our first pick, we could maybe go for Frank Ntilinka with the Lakers pick. I wish this were the scenario. That pick looks like it will be so valuable. The bad thing is if they somehow end up in the top 3 and it doesn't convey, that's bad too because they not only will get a great player with their pick, but it could knock us down a spot.
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fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
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I'm not a fan of Smith. Doesn't look like a pure distributor, and though his first step is quick, he pauses and gathers a lot before making a move. Reminds me of Bledsoe. Give me a pure distributor if one is available.
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I'm not a fan of Smith. Doesn't look like a pure distributor, and though his first step is quick, he pauses and gathers a lot before making a move. Reminds me of Bledsoe. Give me a pure distributor if one is available.
16 assists last night. Tops in NCAA this year.
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PackSuns wrote:cosmofizzo wrote:I'm not a fan of Smith. Doesn't look like a pure distributor, and though his first step is quick, he pauses and gathers a lot before making a move. Reminds me of Bledsoe. Give me a pure distributor if one is available.
16 assists last night. Tops in NCAA this year.
Oops! Better update my take!

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