GT: Charlotte Hornets at Barclays Center - Monday, 12/26/16 7:30pm. Merry Christmas !

[Paradise]

Merry Christmas to the Nets family.



Here's our Brook-Lin duo by Per 36:

Brook - 25.6 Points, 6.8 Rebounds, 3.1 Assists, 22.7 PER, .584 TS%. +8.4 ORTG.

Lin - 19.4 Points, 5.1 Rebounds, 8.5 Assists, 1.8 Steals, 19.7 PER, .554 TS%, +12.4 ORTG.


Brook has a higher PER (24th) than Griffin, Walker, Horford, and KAT. Besides them, nobody on the roster has a PER higher than 16.

Merry Christmas to Sean Marks and I hope he has a good relationship with Santa.


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[TooBad]

Nets should go with this lineup
Starters
Pg Lin
Sg Kilpatrick
SF Jefferson
PF Bennett
C Lopez

PG Dinwiddie
Sg Bojan/Levert
SF Harris
PF Booker
C Hamilton

The team is dead last and its time to keep Jefferson and Bennett in the starting lineup. Jefferson is already in there but he is clearly suited to be a 3 and not a 4 as the game against Cleveland showed (he could not rebound against their PFs due to his size). Anyways, Jefferson has been playing well as of late and is a much better defender than either Bojan or Harris so he is an easy decision. As for Bennett, he clearly needs more opportunity on offense. He seems like he is capable of scoring very easily off the Pick and roll and is currently third on the team in drawing fouls (behind Lopez and Kilpatrick) and leads the team in dunks (per 36 min). I like Booker but he has been struggling and with the season already out of reach its time to give Bennett some burn. I think Bennett has more potential offensively than Booker (he has to work on his 3 though) and if he played a more physical-style on defense he could improve a lot in that regard too(he's shown flashes this year already). I would also like to see Levert used more too although he has to work on his shooting.

[MrDollarBills]

Merry Christmas to the Nets family.



Here's our Brook-Lin duo by Per 36:

Brook - 25.6 Points, 6.8 Rebounds, 3.1 Assists, 22.7 PER, .584 TS%. +8.4 ORTG.

Lin - 19.4 Points, 5.1 Rebounds, 8.5 Assists, 1.8 Steals, 19.7 PER, .554 TS%, +12.4 ORTG.


Brook has a higher PER (24th) than Griffin, Walker, Horford, and KAT. Besides them, nobody on the roster has a PER higher than 16.

Merry Christmas to Sean Marks and I hope he has a good relationship with Santa.


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This is sad to see, because if we had some more talent to go with these two we'd be so much better.

[MrDollarBills]

Nets should go with this lineup
Starters
Pg Lin
Sg Kilpatrick
SF Jefferson
PF Bennett
C Lopez

PG Dinwiddie
Sg Bojan/Levert
SF Harris
PF Booker
C Hamilton

The team is dead last and its time to keep Jefferson and Bennett in the starting lineup. Jefferson is already in there but he is clearly suited to be a 3 and not a 4 as the game against Cleveland showed (he could not rebound against their PFs due to his size). Anyways, Jefferson has been playing well as of late and is a much better defender than either Bojan or Harris so he is an easy decision. As for Bennett, he clearly needs more opportunity on offense. He seems like he is capable of scoring very easily off the Pick and roll and is currently third on the team in drawing fouls (behind Lopez and Kilpatrick) and leads the team in dunks (per 36 min). I like Booker but he has been struggling and with the season already out of reach its time to give Bennett some burn. I think Bennett has more potential offensively than Booker (he has to work on his 3 though) and if he played a more physical-style on defense he could improve a lot in that regard too(he's shown flashes this year already). I would also like to see Levert used more too although he has to work on his shooting.

Agreed that Booker is struggling. He was much better when he was playing a more simple style of hustle basketball. Now he tries to do too much and it's leading to mistakes.

I like Bennett but he has to clean up the mental mistakes and he needs to toughen up around the basket. He should be punishing defenders with his size, mass, and wing span but he goes up soft. If Booker continues to decline in production, the starting PF spot should be considered up for grabs but I don't really see AB doing anything to seize it. He's not assertive enough and is a low IQ defender. Lopez has been posterized several times this season and a lot of it is due to the PF position doing something idiotic, and then it makes Brook look bad.

I think it may be time to give Chris McCullough some NBA reps.

Either way, two positions we'll need to sink cash into this summer is wing and PF. We need a legit starter.

[Paradise]

For the one time out of the year I will root for the Knicks.

I want a good pick and this drafts is so deep that Harry Giles could fall into the mid-1st round. You can get Robert Williams who is a late first round projection (for now) with Josh Smith potential at 18 or 19 in the draft. Right now, Charlotte, NY and Boston are separated by a half game.

It's sad to think we only have a pick in this upcoming draft which scouts think can produce 10-15 future all-stars because of the consecutive draft pick rule lol

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[CalamityX12]

Merry Christmas everyone!

[jbeachboy]

another loss! i dont see us beating charlotte the way we look now.

[KlicKlac]

another loss! i dont see us beating charlotte the way we look now.

If the Nets play with this attitude, they'll lose, but they are every bit capable of beating charlotte-level teams. especially at home.

[Pistolpete1947]

I think we will win. Kemba can score on anyone and will give Lin trouble unless he's off. Batum is good but relatively slow so can be contained. Marvin is inconsistent from 3. Hopefully he won't get hot.
Kenny needs to modify the offense some with more PnRs and less motion. Most of our players don't pass that well and a lot shoot < 30% from 3.

[KlicKlac]

I hope the Nets are discouraged by getting blow out by top level teams. They can handle the hornets fine!

[Papi_swav]

For the one time out of the year I will root for the Knicks.

I want a good pick and this drafts is so deep that Harry Giles could fall into the mid-1st round. You can get Robert Williams who is a late first round projection (for now) with Josh Smith potential at 18 or 19 in the draft. Right now, Charlotte, NY and Boston are separated by a half game.

It's sad to think we only have a pick in this upcoming draft which scouts think can produce 10-15 future all-stars because of the consecutive draft pick rule lol

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Our pick should range from 16-23, Celtics better not be any better than that but with our luck they will give us the 29th pick like the Hawks pick a few years ago we need to worry about us winning games so we don't have to give them a top 5 pick, even they might pick another bust lol

[gafun]

If Brook and Lin would play 24 minutes together(50%lineup), Nets has better chance to beat Hornets. So far they only played avg 9% lineups.


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[Paradise]

For the one time out of the year I will root for the Knicks.

I want a good pick and this drafts is so deep that Harry Giles could fall into the mid-1st round. You can get Robert Williams who is a late first round projection (for now) with Josh Smith potential at 18 or 19 in the draft. Right now, Charlotte, NY and Boston are separated by a half game.

It's sad to think we only have a pick in this upcoming draft which scouts think can produce 10-15 future all-stars because of the consecutive draft pick rule lol

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Our pick should range from 16-23, Celtics better not be any better than that but with our luck they will give us the 29th pick like the Hawks pick a few years ago we need to worry about us winning games so we don't have to give them a top 5 pick, even they might pick another bust lol

We're running against Philly at this point. Dallas has gotten a few wins. It's futile to care about gifting them a pick. We've lost too many games without depending on a 5 game kind of streak to really make up ground. I doubt they take Fultz anyways.

We need to win games to develop a better reputation and for development of a winning culture but at the same time, we're going to need a good pick....or atleast a couple if it means a few trades.

We could've had four picks in this draft.

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[Papi_swav]

For the one time out of the year I will root for the Knicks.

I want a good pick and this drafts is so deep that Harry Giles could fall into the mid-1st round. You can get Robert Williams who is a late first round projection (for now) with Josh Smith potential at 18 or 19 in the draft. Right now, Charlotte, NY and Boston are separated by a half game.

It's sad to think we only have a pick in this upcoming draft which scouts think can produce 10-15 future all-stars because of the consecutive draft pick rule lol

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Our pick should range from 16-23, Celtics better not be any better than that but with our luck they will give us the 29th pick like the Hawks pick a few years ago we need to worry about us winning games so we don't have to give them a top 5 pick, even they might pick another bust lol

We're running against Philly at this point. Dallas has gotten a few wins. It's futile to care about gifting them a pick. We've lost too many games without depending on a 5 game kind of streak to really make up ground. I doubt they take Fultz anyways.


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We should care about what pick were gifting them, we have a chance to gain a lot of ground here because a lot of teams are bad, especially in the West. If we can put a little 5 game win streak we wouldn't be in bottom 5. You making it seem like we should accept being dead last in the NBA no, hell no. If Nets can play smart enough they should be able to avoid gifting them a top 5 pick, its not that hard. They just play a lot of careless ball

[Paradise]

Our pick should range from 16-23, Celtics better not be any better than that but with our luck they will give us the 29th pick like the Hawks pick a few years ago we need to worry about us winning games so we don't have to give them a top 5 pick, even they might pick another bust lol

We're running against Philly at this point. Dallas has gotten a few wins. It's futile to care about gifting them a pick. We've lost too many games without depending on a 5 game kind of streak to really make up ground. I doubt they take Fultz anyways.


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We should care about what pick were gifting them, we have a chance to gain a lot of ground here because a lot of teams are bad, especially in the West. If we can put a little 5 game win streak we wouldn't be in bottom 5. You making it seem like we should accept being dead last in the NBA no, hell no. If Nets can play smart enough they should be able to avoid gifting them a top 5 pick, its not that hard. They just play a lot of careless ball

They play careless ball because 70% of our roster is made up of experienced IQ, low IQ and lack of athleticism. That won't change anytime soon unless Bojan, Kilpatrick, Hamilton, Scola, Foye turn into upgraded defenders and skilled passers. That won't happen either unless it's through trade.

There's only 8 players here that can get better.

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[Pistolpete1947]

We're running against Philly at this point. Dallas has gotten a few wins. It's futile to care about gifting them a pick. We've lost too many games without depending on a 5 game kind of streak to really make up ground. I doubt they take Fultz anyways.


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We should care about what pick were gifting them, we have a chance to gain a lot of ground here because a lot of teams are bad, especially in the West. If we can put a little 5 game win streak we wouldn't be in bottom 5. You making it seem like we should accept being dead last in the NBA no, hell no. If Nets can play smart enough they should be able to avoid gifting them a top 5 pick, its not that hard. They just play a lot of careless ball

They play careless ball because 70% of our roster is made up of experienced IQ, low IQ and lack of athleticism. That won't change anytime soon unless Bojan, Kilpatrick, Hamilton, Scola, Foye turn into upgraded defenders and skilled passers. That won't happen either unless it's through trade.

There's only 8 players here that can get better.

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They telegraph a lot of passes. That should be something they can correct without too much difficulty.

[Paradise]

They telegraph passes because they are poor finishers, scorers or shooters. This isn't anything new. We were projected to be a bottom tier team since the summer for a reason. 70% of our roster are marginal players. Some vets on the verge of retirement (Foye, Scola) and raw prospects (LeVert, IW, SD, RHJ, CMC), D-League bigs (Hamilton, Bennett) and one dimensional scorers (Bogs, Skil, J-Harris). We have only three established players in Booker, Lin, B-Lo. No team capable of more than 20 wins has three legitimate players and a bunch of cast offs and rookies. Most of our losses stem from the poor defense from our guards and poor rebounding from our bigs. We have no shot blocking and none of our bigs besides Lopez has a shot blocking skill.

None of those realities are changing. We still will suck defensively without the turnovers. Turnovers are a product of a fast pace because of the amount of extra possessions and player movement. It's one thing to be turnover prone but you can't be turnover prone and poor defensively.

Our ability to win games comes down to how well Lin/Lopez/Booker play and how effective Kilpatrick is with the ball. That's not a good recipe for success.

You can't try to outscore teams in a league that is seeing all-time highs in scoring by all 30 teams.

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[MrDollarBills]

For the one time out of the year I will root for the Knicks.

I want a good pick and this drafts is so deep that Harry Giles could fall into the mid-1st round. You can get Robert Williams who is a late first round projection (for now) with Josh Smith potential at 18 or 19 in the draft. Right now, Charlotte, NY and Boston are separated by a half game.

It's sad to think we only have a pick in this upcoming draft which scouts think can produce 10-15 future all-stars because of the consecutive draft pick rule lol

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We could always try to trade up as well, but i don't know what we'd be able to package together with Boston's pick. We definitely need to move up in this draft regardless of where Boston lands. We have no choice, we need talent badly and landing one of those "future all star" picks will go a long ways towards this team's future.

[MrDollarBills]

They telegraph passes because they are poor finishers, scorers or shooters. This isn't anything new. We were projected to be a bottom tier team since the summer for a reason. 70% of our roster are marginal players. Some vets on the verge of retirement (Foye, Scola) and raw prospects (LeVert, IW, SD, RHJ, CMC), D-League bigs (Hamilton, Bennett) and one dimensional scorers (Bogs, Skil, J-Harris). We have only three established players in Booker, Lin, B-Lo. No team capable of more than 20 wins has three legitimate players and a bunch of cast offs and rookies. Most of our losses stem from the poor defense from our guards and poor rebounding from our bigs. We have no shot blocking and none of our bigs besides Lopez has a shot blocking skill.

None of those realities are changing. We still will suck defensively without the turnovers. Turnovers are a product of a fast pace because of the amount of extra possessions and player movement. It's one thing to be turnover prone but you can't be turnover prone and poor defensively.

Our ability to win games comes down to how well Lin/Lopez/Booker play and how effective Kilpatrick is with the ball. That's not a good recipe for success.

You can't try to outscore teams in a league that is seeing all-time highs in scoring by all 30 teams.

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yep. This is the truth, bottom line. We're just not very good right now in the areas that make or break games and we make a lot of low IQ plays in the 2nd half which always dooms us.

[Paradise]

Yeah, there's a reason Marks tried to land Tyler Johnson, Allen Crabbe and Montiejunas. What separates us from everyone is we don't have enough prime talent to surround the rookies.

The one thing all of those guys have in common is all of them are considered to be two-way efficient players. They all have been to the playoffs under the age of 27.

That would've been a huge help to Lin, Booker and Lopez. It would've helped our inexperienced guys like RHJ, Harris, LeVert, Whitehead develop within smaller roles.

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