Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[DOT]

It's a shame that people here dismiss a stat that most analysts feel is the most important offensive stat. Dragic is not only more efficient, but his three point shot increases floor spacing making it more difficult on the defense.

So that means Courtney Lee is better than James Harden then, because his 3pt% (the most important stat) is better?
I know what you're saying, and it is good to have players who can shoot, but it's not a necessity for success, and you can get away with having two players who can't shoot threes on the court at the same time as long as one of them is the primary ball handler (Toronto with DeRozan and Valanciunas)

[blueNorange]

gotcha, misunderstood. so how about we account for made threes as well. dragic makes 2 threes a game and only averages 2 more points.

he's still more efficient than rose.

It's a shame that people here dismiss a stat that most analysts feel is the most important offensive stat. Dragic is not only more efficient, but his three point shot increases floor spacing making it more difficult on the defense.

they're trashing dragic for not scoring more because he makes threes, it literally makes no sense.

to dismiss ts% because rose can't make threes, lol so we should excuse him that he never bothered working on his three point shot? lmaoo

[Nyk4lyfe]

As it stands right now, most of our core and rotation players are locked up long-term, which is great. Going into FA, our lineup will look something like:

Starters
PG: ?
SG: Lee
SF: Melo
PF: Porzingis
C: Noah

Bench:
PG: ?
SG: Kuz
SF: Lance
PF: KOQ
C: Willy

Three major expiring players are Rose, Jennings and Holiday. I think Holiday might be too expensive for us, plus we have enough backup wings to replace him. So essentially, this free agency all comes down to the POINT GUARD position (yet again)

For our backup point guard position, we should draft one with our pick this year (its a deep draft)

For our starter point guard position, I think rather than just extending Rose so quickly, we should do our due dilligence to see if we can get an upgrade at the position

Options:
1) Lowry (FA)
2) CP3 (FA)
3) Hill (FA)
4) Dragic (trade)
5) Bledsoe (trade)
6) Rose (FA)
7) Holiday (FA)
8) Teague (FA)
9) Rubio (trade)
10) Collison (FA)

A lot of options here... I would only get a new PG if it is anyone listed above Rose in this list (and for the right price of course). If we strike out on those 5, I would be totally down to resign Rose as long as its not LONG TERM (that would be a disaster)

[blueNorange]

It's a shame that people here dismiss a stat that most analysts feel is the most important offensive stat. Dragic is not only more efficient, but his three point shot increases floor spacing making it more difficult on the defense.

So that means Courtney Lee is better than James Harden then, because his 3pt% (the most important stat) is better?
I know what you're saying, and it is good to have players who can shoot, but it's not a necessity for success, and you can get away with having two players who can't shoot threes on the court at the same time as long as one of them is the primary ball handler (Toronto with DeRozan and Valanciunas)

less shots + more points = good efficient basketball

that's been the key to success by almost every team since the dawn of time.

[DOT]

It's a shame that people here dismiss a stat that most analysts feel is the most important offensive stat. Dragic is not only more efficient, but his three point shot increases floor spacing making it more difficult on the defense.

So that means Courtney Lee is better than James Harden then, because his 3pt% (the most important stat) is better?
I know what you're saying, and it is good to have players who can shoot, but it's not a necessity for success, and you can get away with having two players who can't shoot threes on the court at the same time as long as one of them is the primary ball handler (Toronto with DeRozan and Valanciunas)

less shots + more points = good efficient basketball

that's been the key to success by almost every team since the dawn of time.

Never said it wasn't, just that you don't need 3pt shooting from every position at once

[blueNorange]

So that means Courtney Lee is better than James Harden then, because his 3pt% (the most important stat) is better?
I know what you're saying, and it is good to have players who can shoot, but it's not a necessity for success, and you can get away with having two players who can't shoot threes on the court at the same time as long as one of them is the primary ball handler (Toronto with DeRozan and Valanciunas)

less shots + more points = good efficient basketball

that's been the key to success by almost every team since the dawn of time.

Never said it wasn't, just that you don't need 3pt shooting from every position at once

yes you do.

[NBA Fan 1234]

So that means Courtney Lee is better than James Harden then, because his 3pt% (the most important stat) is better?
I know what you're saying, and it is good to have players who can shoot, but it's not a necessity for success, and you can get away with having two players who can't shoot threes on the court at the same time as long as one of them is the primary ball handler (Toronto with DeRozan and Valanciunas)

less shots + more points = good efficient basketball

that's been the key to success by almost every team since the dawn of time.

Never said it wasn't, just that you don't need 3pt shooting from every position at once

When you have an inconsistent SF and a center who can't even make layups, having a spacing point guard helps a lot.

[DOT]

less shots + more points = good efficient basketball

that's been the key to success by almost every team since the dawn of time.

Never said it wasn't, just that you don't need 3pt shooting from every position at once

yes you do.

No team in history has had 3pt shooters starting at every postition

[whocares1]

Never said it wasn't, just that you don't need 3pt shooting from every position at once

yes you do.

No team in history has had 3pt shooters starting at every postition

You'd like your guards to be able to shoot threes.

[misterfrazier10]

I like Dragic and even though he may not be better than Rose he may be a better fit with the Knicks. He can shoot the three and I also think he's a better triangle player. Last year on a decent Heat squad he was a highly rated defender-- this year he is not but he'd still be an upgrade over Rose as a defender. The Knicks don't run the triangle much because of Rose and nobody knows if that's a good thing. Most successful teams have a lot of three point shooters these days. So Rose is not helping in triangles or threes. Dragic would help in both.

Dragic is easily better than Rose. I'm not sure why people are talking about him tho, the likelihood of Phil making a trade for him this season is close to zero IMO. We're rolling with Rose for the rest of this season at the very least.

Well I disagree about zero possibility since Dragic had his best season with Hornacek in Phoenix only a couple of seasons ago. And since there's been talk of rebuilding in Miami without Bosh it means that Rose's one-year contract is valuable to Riley I figure.

[blanko]

I like Dragic and even though he may not be better than Rose he may be a better fit with the Knicks. He can shoot the three and I also think he's a better triangle player. Last year on a decent Heat squad he was a highly rated defender-- this year he is not but he'd still be an upgrade over Rose as a defender. The Knicks don't run the triangle much because of Rose and nobody knows if that's a good thing. Most successful teams have a lot of three point shooters these days. So Rose is not helping in triangles or threes. Dragic would help in both.

Dragic is easily better than Rose. I'm not sure why people are talking about him tho, the likelihood of Phil making a trade for him this season is close to zero IMO. We're rolling with Rose for the rest of this season at the very least.

Phil will make a trade if the trade makes sense. And I think this makes sense for both sides. We get a better player that is locked in at a lower salary than rose, one that would probably age Better because he is a better shooter. Miami is looking at a serious rebuild with no cap relief for Bosh in the near future. They need to tank this year because they have their first round draft pick. Trading for rose allows them to do two things at once: higher draft pick, 20+ mil salary dump.


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[NYKMentality85]

We lost a heartbreaker but I'm proud of Derrick Rose. He came to play & absoulatly balled out with 25 points, 5 rebounds & 3 assists off of .526% from the field.

Hey. If it's o.k to praise Goran Dragic for playing losing basketball it's only right to praise Rose for his Christmas day performance.

[blueNorange]

We lost a heartbreaker but I'm proud of Derrick Rose. He came to play & absoulatly balled out with 25 points, 5 rebounds & 3 assists off of .526% from the field.

Hey. If it's o.k to praise Goran Dragic for playing losing basketball it's only right to praise Rose for his Christmas day performance.

3 assists is pathetic, dude didn't run a play at all other than calling his own number.

he is not a point guard

[NYKnicksTAPE]

I like Dragic and even though he may not be better than Rose he may be a better fit with the Knicks. He can shoot the three and I also think he's a better triangle player. Last year on a decent Heat squad he was a highly rated defender-- this year he is not but he'd still be an upgrade over Rose as a defender. The Knicks don't run the triangle much because of Rose and nobody knows if that's a good thing. Most successful teams have a lot of three point shooters these days. So Rose is not helping in triangles or threes. Dragic would help in both.

Dragic is easily better than Rose. I'm not sure why people are talking about him tho, the likelihood of Phil making a trade for him this season is close to zero IMO. We're rolling with Rose for the rest of this season at the very least.

Phil will make a trade if the trade makes sense. And I think this makes sense for both sides. We get a better player that is locked in at a lower salary than rose, one that would probably age Better because he is a better shooter. Miami is looking at a serious rebuild with no cap relief for Bosh in the near future. They need to tank this year because they have their first round draft pick. Trading for rose allows them to do two things at once: higher draft pick, 20+ mil salary dump.


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I just do not see Phil trading Rose this season...especially since Rose has made it known that he wants to stay, the Knicks are in the playoff hunt, and he is in the midst of having his best season since 2011-12

[3toheadmelo]

We lost a heartbreaker but I'm proud of Derrick Rose. He came to play & absoulatly balled out with 25 points, 5 rebounds & 3 assists off of .526% from the field.

Hey. If it's o.k to praise Goran Dragic for playing losing basketball it's only right to praise Rose for his Christmas day performance.

3 assists is pathetic, dude didn't run a play at all other than calling his own number.

he is not a point guard

Thomas had 4

[robillionaire]

The only way I don't want rose back is if we can sign Bledsoe

Hope we can get a discount

[blueNorange]

We lost a heartbreaker but I'm proud of Derrick Rose. He came to play & absoulatly balled out with 25 points, 5 rebounds & 3 assists off of .526% from the field.

Hey. If it's o.k to praise Goran Dragic for playing losing basketball it's only right to praise Rose for his Christmas day performance.

3 assists is pathetic, dude didn't run a play at all other than calling his own number.

he is not a point guard

Thomas had 4

what does thomas have anything to do with derrick rose not being a good pg and the knicks?

[3toheadmelo]

3 assists is pathetic, dude didn't run a play at all other than calling his own number.

he is not a point guard

Thomas had 4

what does thomas have anything to do with derrick rose not being a good pg and the knicks?

Because ur mad that he had 3 but Thomas had one more than him who's supposedly a "point guard". I'm not even sure how u can be mad at rose when he played great today. But keep wasting ur time crying

[blueNorange]

Thomas had 4

what does thomas have anything to do with derrick rose not being a good pg and the knicks?

Because ur mad that he had 3 but Thomas had one more than him who's supposedly a "point guard". I'm not even sure how u can be mad at rose when he played great today. But keep wasting ur time crying

derrick rose can't run a pick and roll, all he does is put his head down and inflate his stats. so no he didn't play great because he's a main reason why there's zero ball movement and player movement.

that is not good basketball, that is not winning basketball, and that is not a pg.

[3toheadmelo]

what does thomas have anything to do with derrick rose not being a good pg and the knicks?

Because ur mad that he had 3 but Thomas had one more than him who's supposedly a "point guard". I'm not even sure how u can be mad at rose when he played great today. But keep wasting ur time crying

derrick rose can't run a pick and roll, all he does is put his head down and inflate his stats. so no he didn't play great because he's a main reason why there's zero ball movement and player movement.

that is not good basketball, that is not winning basketball, and that is not a pg.

Cry me a river