Stan guarantees starting lineup will change by Wednesday night.

[ComboGuardCity]

I said this in another thread, but I'd start Johnson AND Leuer. Let it be the Reggie & Dre pnr show then bring Ish, Mook & Harris off the bench and wreck teams with our 2nd starting unit.

I agree. Though I bet Mook is the odd man out once his contract is up

[coordinator0]

I said this in another thread, but I'd start Johnson AND Leuer. Let it be the Reggie & Dre pnr show then bring Ish, Mook & Harris off the bench and wreck teams with our 2nd starting unit.

I agree. Though I bet Mook is the odd man out once his contract is up

The contracts for Harris, Morris, and Johnson all end the same year, although Stanley will probably get a qualifying offer or an offer sheet from some other team that summer.

[ComboGuardCity]

I said this in another thread, but I'd start Johnson AND Leuer. Let it be the Reggie & Dre pnr show then bring Ish, Mook & Harris off the bench and wreck teams with our 2nd starting unit.

I agree. Though I bet Mook is the odd man out once his contract is up

The contracts for Harris, Morris, and Johnson all end the same year, although Stanley will probably get a qualifying offer or an offer sheet from some other team that summer.

Yeah and I hope Stan picks retaining Harris over Morris. If Morris was making over 15 mill people would be calling for his head

[Blkbrd671]

I agree. Though I bet Mook is the odd man out once his contract is up

The contracts for Harris, Morris, and Johnson all end the same year, although Stanley will probably get a qualifying offer or an offer sheet from some other team that summer.

Yeah and I hope Stan picks retaining Harris over Morris. If Morris was making over 15 mill people would be calling for his head

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

[Pharaoh]

The contracts for Harris, Morris, and Johnson all end the same year, although Stanley will probably get a qualifying offer or an offer sheet from some other team that summer.

Yeah and I hope Stan picks retaining Harris over Morris. If Morris was making over 15 mill people would be calling for his head

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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[sc8581]

Yeah and I hope Stan picks retaining Harris over Morris. If Morris was making over 15 mill people would be calling for his head

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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Is it? Mook has a better offensive rating, not that I know how that's calculated lol. Morris is slightly better behind the arc though honestly if his shot selection was better I think he would be quite a bit better. Neither passes the ball very much or crashes the offensive glass, I think it's pretty much a wash.

[Pharaoh]

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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Is it? Mook has a better offensive rating, not that I know how that's calculated lol. Morris is slightly better behind the arc though honestly if his shot selection was better I think he would be quite a bit better. Neither passes the ball very much or crashes the offensive glass, I think it's pretty much a wash.

Not interested in offensive ratings

From watching them Harris is the more skilled & versatile player...

Came off the bench with as SVG put it "a professional performance"

He's my guy!

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[Cowology]

Harris is more versatile and plays better within the offense. Mook is better as a 6th man, ala Corlis but w/ better D.

But looking at intangibles Mook is the more vocal and I could actually see him developing into more of a leader. Never would have thought that when we acquired him, but we need somebody who will show a little fire and hold players accountable.

Tough call for me, but don't need to figure it out just this minute.

[Blkbrd671]

Yeah and I hope Stan picks retaining Harris over Morris. If Morris was making over 15 mill people would be calling for his head

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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that is very easy to say while Mook is in a slump, but how quickly you forget how he carried us late last season. In any era and league, i'd take the player that plays both sides of the ball. Being able to score isn't nearly as important as being able to score when we need it. Mook fits that profile for this team. And we haven't even started to mention intangibles like being vocal leader etc.

It really doesn't matter who starts the game, its who finishes

[Pharaoh]

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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that is very easy to say while Mook is in a slump, but how quickly you forget how he carried us late last season. In any era and league, i'd take the player that plays both sides of the ball. Being able to score isn't nearly as important as being able to score when we need it. Mook fits that profile for this team. And we haven't even started to mention intangibles like being vocal leader etc.

It really doesn't matter who starts the game, its who finishes

We all have our own preferences when it comes to team building & personality types.

Harris is my guy despite the fact Mook has a lot of intangibles I like AND is cheap as can be!

I want a big PG like Chauncey.

I want a SG like KCP

I want a SF like Harris

I want a PF like Sheed but driven

I want a C like Big Ben but can hit FTs

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[Finn McCool]

Not that i disagree personally but Harris , i believe, has been playing some of the if not the worst D on the team. While he's still young, i think a better overall option would be to trade tobias as he'd net the best return

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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that is very easy to say while Mook is in a slump, but how quickly you forget how he carried us late last season. In any era and league, i'd take the player that plays both sides of the ball. Being able to score isn't nearly as important as being able to score when we need it. Mook fits that profile for this team. And we haven't even started to mention intangibles like being vocal leader etc.

Pardon me... but just because one is able to complain and moan, doesn't mean one is a vocal leader. Morris did it(whined) in Houston and Phoenix, before he got here... and I'm fairly certain he wasn't labeled a leader in those places either.

[Blkbrd671]

One guy cam hit the ocean while sitting in a boat and the other isn't a good defender...

In today's league I'll take the better offensive player...and that's Tobias

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that is very easy to say while Mook is in a slump, but how quickly you forget how he carried us late last season. In any era and league, i'd take the player that plays both sides of the ball. Being able to score isn't nearly as important as being able to score when we need it. Mook fits that profile for this team. And we haven't even started to mention intangibles like being vocal leader etc.

Pardon me... but just because one is able to complain and moan, doesn't mean one is a vocal leader. Morris did it(whined) in Houston and Phoenix, before he got here... and I'm fairly certain he wasn't labeled a leader in those places either.

if your really hung up on that, then feel free to remove the "intangibles" and my point is still valid. Its funny how so many posters say mook is a ISO player and Whines like Tobias Harris doesn't iso and literally whined on this team this season and is our worst defender.

There is a clear double standard because TH offensive game is flashy and defense is ignored like it doesn't win championships

[Finn McCool]

that is very easy to say while Mook is in a slump, but how quickly you forget how he carried us late last season. In any era and league, i'd take the player that plays both sides of the ball. Being able to score isn't nearly as important as being able to score when we need it. Mook fits that profile for this team. And we haven't even started to mention intangibles like being vocal leader etc.

Pardon me... but just because one is able to complain and moan, doesn't mean one is a vocal leader. Morris did it(whined) in Houston and Phoenix, before he got here... and I'm fairly certain he wasn't labeled a leader in those places either.

if your really hung up on that, then feel free to remove the "intangibles" and my point is still valid. Its funny how so many posters say mook is a ISO player and Whines like Tobias Harris doesn't iso and literally whined on this team this season and is our worst defender.

There is a clear double standard because TH offensive game is flashy and defense is ignored like it doesn't win championships

Not sure why you brought Tobias into the conversation... non sequitur.

[Pharaoh]

that is very easy to say while Mook is in a slump, but how quickly you forget how he carried us late last season. In any era and league, i'd take the player that plays both sides of the ball. Being able to score isn't nearly as important as being able to score when we need it. Mook fits that profile for this team. And we haven't even started to mention intangibles like being vocal leader etc.

Pardon me... but just because one is able to complain and moan, doesn't mean one is a vocal leader. Morris did it(whined) in Houston and Phoenix, before he got here... and I'm fairly certain he wasn't labeled a leader in those places either.

if your really hung up on that, then feel free to remove the "intangibles" and my point is still valid. Its funny how so many posters say mook is a ISO player and Whines like Tobias Harris doesn't iso and literally whined on this team this season and is our worst defender.

There is a clear double standard because TH offensive game is flashy and defense is ignored like it doesn't win championships

Tobias is flashy?

Ignore defense?

Did you see my ideal starting 5 bro?

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[Blkbrd671]

Pardon me... but just because one is able to complain and moan, doesn't mean one is a vocal leader. Morris did it(whined) in Houston and Phoenix, before he got here... and I'm fairly certain he wasn't labeled a leader in those places either.

if your really hung up on that, then feel free to remove the "intangibles" and my point is still valid. Its funny how so many posters say mook is a ISO player and Whines like Tobias Harris doesn't iso and literally whined on this team this season and is our worst defender.

There is a clear double standard because TH offensive game is flashy and defense is ignored like it doesn't win championships

Tobias is flashy?

Ignore defense?

Did you see my ideal starting 5 bro?

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wasn't directed at you

[Blkbrd671]

Pardon me... but just because one is able to complain and moan, doesn't mean one is a vocal leader. Morris did it(whined) in Houston and Phoenix, before he got here... and I'm fairly certain he wasn't labeled a leader in those places either.

if your really hung up on that, then feel free to remove the "intangibles" and my point is still valid. Its funny how so many posters say mook is a ISO player and Whines like Tobias Harris doesn't iso and literally whined on this team this season and is our worst defender.

There is a clear double standard because TH offensive game is flashy and defense is ignored like it doesn't win championships

Not sure why you brought Tobias into the conversation... non sequitur.

well you entered a discussion about Mook vs TH, so obviously there is confusion.

Its well known that SVG and Mook himself prior to the season need to step up as leaders on this team. And in regards to your comment. its called maturing , different system, coach FO and roster. All those things impact any and every player. So to say "he wasn't this and that in vacuum is not a accurate representation of the reality of those situations. Context is important

[Finn McCool]

if your really hung up on that, then feel free to remove the "intangibles" and my point is still valid. Its funny how so many posters say mook is a ISO player and Whines like Tobias Harris doesn't iso and literally whined on this team this season and is our worst defender.

There is a clear double standard because TH offensive game is flashy and defense is ignored like it doesn't win championships

Not sure why you brought Tobias into the conversation... non sequitur.

well you entered a discussion about Mook vs TH, so obviously there is confusion.

Its well known that SVG and Mook himself prior to the season need to step up as leaders on this team. And in regards to your comment. its called maturing , different system, coach FO and roster. All those things impact any and every player. So to say "he wasn't this and that in vacuum is not a accurate representation of the reality of those situations. Context is important

I was careful to underline the comment I took issue with. I wish I could provide ample evidence to support my opinion, but I can't say I have much to refute what you state... as I imagine it would be tough for you to prove your statement as well. I just disagree with the belief that Morris is a vocal leader. Perhaps more of a squeaky wheel.

[Blkbrd671]

Not sure why you brought Tobias into the conversation... non sequitur.

well you entered a discussion about Mook vs TH, so obviously there is confusion.

Its well known that SVG and Mook himself prior to the season need to step up as leaders on this team. And in regards to your comment. its called maturing , different system, coach FO and roster. All those things impact any and every player. So to say "he wasn't this and that in vacuum is not a accurate representation of the reality of those situations. Context is important

I was careful to underline the comment I took issue with. I wish I could provide ample evidence to support my opinion, but I can't say I have much to refute what you state... as I imagine it would be tough for you to prove your statement as well. I just disagree with the belief that Morris is a vocal leader. Perhaps more of a squeaky wheel.

the majority of the topics discussed on this forum are "Hard to prove", all we can do is make educated assumptions about what is provided to us, and by all indication Mook has been a professional and SVG indicated he needed mook to lead. I'd also like to add that the best of leaders Walk more than they talk.