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Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1141 » by Ericb5 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:17 am

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HotelVitale wrote: Relax, man, there's no reason to start cursing him until he starts threatening to sit out or something. No one gains anything by you pretending you know what teams think about him, especially not that they ran some sort of secret personality tests and found out he's a 'whiny malcontent bitch.' He's worried about losing millions and millions of dollars and we did put him a weird position. He gets to be a real human and express those concerns in a modest, polite way (which is basically what that interview was). Don't start with those whole 'heartless traitor!' crap until he actually screws us.
Being a malcontent hurts his earning power, and he should recognize that. He is poisoning the well with these comments because he is both hurting the team, and himself. If he is frustrated with his situation, behind the scenes he should tell BC that he has no intention of resigning here and that he wants to be traded. Then he should bust his but on the court and be a good soldier publicly. He is acting like a spoiled child right now.
Sure, but it doesn't matter much for us. Teams know the situation we're in, and Noel is just saying what everyone who looks at the situation knows: dude isn't happy suddenly being 3rd string in a contract year.

I don't get the craziness here: we didn't know we'd have Embiid back, now we do and he's made our previous, far less promising young centers redundant. There's no simple way out of that: neither Noel nor Okafor has great value and everyone knows that, and we're sort of stuck waiting for the best offer. It's not a good situation but I don't see what people are worked up about. We have no other options for Noel/Okafor but taking the best offers, and we have Embiid as our long-term 5. The former thing is an unfortunate necessity, and the latter thing is awesome. End of story.


I agree that it is a problem, and I agree that it isn't worth really worrying about.

We have Embiid, Simmons, and two great picks coming this year. THOSE are the really consequential assets of this franchise.

We are going to have to make either 1 or 2 bad trades value wise with Noel and Okafor where we will likely bring back less talent than we send out, but them's the breaks.

If we come out of the deals with usable well fitting role players, it will be totally fine.


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Post#1142 » by the_process » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:31 am

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HotelVitale wrote: Nothing's gained by that. Best case scenario we win maybe 2.5 games more this year without Okafor, not a significant long or short term benefit (def not enough to punt on Okafor having more value somewhere down the line). I don't need to point out the obvious that they could just not play him very much, or only in favorable situations.

I agree with this. Not playing him is the better option.

Im really curious to see if we can start wining after cut this cancer.


Mrs. Okafor,

Your maternal love for your son is understandable, however unfortunately he doesn't have basketball skills relevant to the 21st century.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1143 » by LloydFree » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:37 am

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LloydFree wrote:I agree with this. Not playing him is the better option.

Im really curious to see if we can start wining after cut this cancer.


Mrs. Okafor,

Your maternal love for your son is understandable, however unfortunately he doesn't have basketball skills relevant to the 21st century.

That's not his mother posting, that's his wife.
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Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1144 » by the_process » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:46 am

Porter and Ezeli to PHI
Gortat to POR
Harkless, Okafor, and Thompson to WSH

I know this is not the trade thread, but it is the Okafor thread.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1145 » by phifans » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:23 am

LloydFree wrote:
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phifans wrote:Im really curious to see if we can start wining after cut this cancer.


Mrs. Okafor,

Your maternal love for your son is understandable, however unfortunately he doesn't have basketball skills relevant to the 21st century.

That's not his mother posting, that's his wife.


LoL. I thought you were cheated by Okafor . No ?
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1146 » by phifans » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:35 am

the_process wrote:Mrs. Okafor,

Your maternal love for your son is understandable, however unfortunately he doesn't have basketball skills relevant to the 21st century.


Mrs. Hater,

I don't love Okafor. And he would be totally irrelavent to me if he's not in my favourate team. But as long as he's here I would support him just like how I support our other guys.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1147 » by the_process » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:56 am

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the_process wrote:Mrs. Okafor,

Your maternal love for your son is understandable, however unfortunately he doesn't have basketball skills relevant to the 21st century.


Mrs. Hater,

I don't love Okafor. And he would be totally irrelavent to me if he's not in my favourate team. But as long as he's here I would support him just like how I support our other guys.


The 1950's called. They want their blind loyalty and naïveté back.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1148 » by phifans » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:01 am

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phifans wrote:
the_process wrote:Mrs. Okafor,

Your maternal love for your son is understandable, however unfortunately he doesn't have basketball skills relevant to the 21st century.


Mrs. Hater,

I don't love Okafor. And he would be totally irrelavent to me if he's not in my favourate team. But as long as he's here I would support him just like how I support our other guys.


The 1950's called. They want their blind loyalty and naïveté back.


I like the way how you guys pretend how knowledgable you guys were on basketball but fail to realize you can do nothing about what you don't like or against except trashing and complaining. :wink:
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Post#1149 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:08 am

Chill with the back and forth before it becomes more.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1150 » by the_process » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:43 am

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the_process wrote:
phifans wrote:
Mrs. Hater,

I don't love Okafor. And he would be totally irrelavent to me if he's not in my favourate team. But as long as he's here I would support him just like how I support our other guys.


The 1950's called. They want their blind loyalty and naïveté back.


I like the way how you guys pretend how knowledgable you guys were on basketball but fail to realize you can do nothing about what you don't like or against except trashing and complaining. :wink:


That's where you're wrong. Check the logo.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1151 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:59 am

Go ahead. The magic could have had Vucevic, Ibaka, Harris, Fournier, Payton. And instead have Biyombo, Ibaka, Jeff Green, Fournier, Payton.

They are the exact opposite blue print I want the Sixers to follow. They also suck and unlike the sixers will continue to do so for a long time.
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Post#1152 » by SelfishPlayer » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:34 am

spikeslovechild wrote:Go ahead. The magic could have had Vucevic, Ibaka, Harris, Fournier, Payton. And instead have Biyombo, Ibaka, Jeff Green, Fournier, Payton.

They are the exact opposite blue print I want the Sixers to follow. They also suck and unlike the sixers will continue to do so for a long time.


Perhaps they are tanking during a talented draft. They traded away a guard for a big, that spells disaster for winning with what they were left with. What if Orlando gets a top 5 lottery pick to go along with what they have on the roster? How will you feel about them then? They will have a top 5 lottery pick to go along with some NBA vets that have experienced winning in the NBA unlike the Sixers. The Sixers have to disinfect tank culture, Orlando will not have to go through that.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1153 » by the_process » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:24 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:Go ahead. The magic could have had Vucevic, Ibaka, Harris, Fournier, Payton. And instead have Biyombo, Ibaka, Jeff Green, Fournier, Payton.

They are the exact opposite blue print I want the Sixers to follow. They also suck and unlike the sixers will continue to do so for a long time.


phifans wrote:
the_process wrote:The 1950's called. They want their blind loyalty and naïveté back.


I like the way how you guys pretend how knowledgable you guys were on basketball but fail to realize you can do nothing about what you don't like or against except trashing and complaining.


I was responding to the bolded part. Orlando was a random choice. Thinking about it now, should've picked the Dubs, that would've gotten the point across better. So I'll fix that.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1154 » by LloydFree » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:14 pm

In Utah... ready to do Okafor things

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Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Post#1155 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:25 am

So I watched Enes Kanter play last night and am watching Greg Monroe play now...and I feel like this is were Okafor is trending towards.

Both guys were high picks, and once viewed as potential "20-10" bigs.

Kanter is producing for OKC, but in a reserve 6th man role for OKC and that is mainly because his defense is a liability out there to start.

Monroe has seen his playing time decrease, and is also coming off the bench now, lucky to log 20 minutes. His defense and lack of rim protection is the key factor to his designation to reserve status.


I know he has scoring potential and skill, but his defense and rebounding are still light years away from where they need to be. He is a liability on the floor, gives you no rebounding and no rim protection. He will get another 2-3 years of chances either with us or another team simply due to his name and the #3 pick tag....but if he can't improve in those areas, he will be relegated to a bench player.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#1156 » by LloydFree » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:59 am

PhilasFinest wrote:So I watched Enes Kanter play last night and am watching Greg Monroe play now...and I feel like this is were Okafor is trending towards.

Both guys were high picks, and once viewed as potential "20-10" bigs.

Kanter is producing for OKC, but in a reserve 6th man role for OKC and that is mainly because his defense is a liability out there to start.

Monroe has seen his playing time decrease, and is also coming off the bench now, lucky to log 20 minutes. His defense and lack of rim protection is the key factor to his designation to reserve status.


Nooo, I think your off. I like this one better:

spikeslovechild wrote:I think his ceiling is Karl Malone. Personally I see the most likely outcome as him reaching his ceiling.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1425916&start=600#start_here

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Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1157 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:01 am

LloydFree wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:So I watched Enes Kanter play last night and am watching Greg Monroe play now...and I feel like this is were Okafor is trending towards.

Both guys were high picks, and once viewed as potential "20-10" bigs.

Kanter is producing for OKC, but in a reserve 6th man role for OKC and that is mainly because his defense is a liability out there to start.

Monroe has seen his playing time decrease, and is also coming off the bench now, lucky to log 20 minutes. His defense and lack of rim protection is the key factor to his designation to reserve status.


Nooo, I think your off. I like this one better:

spikeslovechild wrote:I think his ceiling is Karl Malone. Personally I see the most likely outcome as him reaching his ceiling.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1425916&start=600#start_here

August 1, 2016


Jesus. I sure hope that was sarcasm. :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Post#1158 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:06 am

LloydFree wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:So I watched Enes Kanter play last night and am watching Greg Monroe play now...and I feel like this is were Okafor is trending towards.

Both guys were high picks, and once viewed as potential "20-10" bigs.

Kanter is producing for OKC, but in a reserve 6th man role for OKC and that is mainly because his defense is a liability out there to start.

Monroe has seen his playing time decrease, and is also coming off the bench now, lucky to log 20 minutes. His defense and lack of rim protection is the key factor to his designation to reserve status.


Nooo, I think your off. I like this one better:

spikeslovechild wrote:I think his ceiling is Karl Malone. Personally I see the most likely outcome as him reaching his ceiling.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1425916&start=600#start_here

August 1, 2016


Karl Malone is probably in better shape at 53 then Okafor is now.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1159 » by Sixersftw » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:18 am

PhilasFinest wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:So I watched Enes Kanter play last night and am watching Greg Monroe play now...and I feel like this is were Okafor is trending towards.

Both guys were high picks, and once viewed as potential "20-10" bigs.

Kanter is producing for OKC, but in a reserve 6th man role for OKC and that is mainly because his defense is a liability out there to start.

Monroe has seen his playing time decrease, and is also coming off the bench now, lucky to log 20 minutes. His defense and lack of rim protection is the key factor to his designation to reserve status.


Nooo, I think your off. I like this one better:

spikeslovechild wrote:I think his ceiling is Karl Malone. Personally I see the most likely outcome as him reaching his ceiling.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1425916&start=600#start_here

August 1, 2016


Jesus. I sure hope that was sarcasm. :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:


naw man. There are some gems in the various Okafor centric threads. Its like a few guys just didn't see how bad he was last year.

I get being hype on young players. Hell, I thought Evan Turner was gonna be a god predraft but Jah went from being a rich man's Al jefferson (which would be a very good player) predraft to being Karl Malone, Lamarcus Aldridge, and host of other ridiculous comparisons after a crappy rookie year and a few workout montages.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1160 » by the_process » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:28 am

Does anyone else think Okafor knows he's being showcased for a trade and that's why he's playing like ****?

The first team who will give up a warm body and a late 1st can have him, just end the distraction.

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