Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[bronxknicksfan1]

so he's now cured the year he's entering free agency?

His numbers in Chicago when he was finally recovered showed an upward trend in production. This isn't anything new.

no it didn't.

Pre All-Star 45 32.2 6.5-16.0 .408 0.6-2.3 .255 2.3-2.8 .797 0.7 2.9 3.5 4.8 0.3 0.6 1.6 2.7 15.9
Post All-Star 21 30.9 7.3-15.7 .468 0.9-2.3 .375 1.9-2.4 .784 0.8 2.4 3.1 4.6 0.1 0.7 0.7 2.6 17.4

...yes, it did.

[2Chainz]

His numbers in Chicago when he was finally recovered showed an upward trend in production. This isn't anything new.

no it didn't.

Pre All-Star 45 32.2 6.5-16.0 .408 0.6-2.3 .255 2.3-2.8 .797 0.7 2.9 3.5 4.8 0.3 0.6 1.6 2.7 15.9
Post All-Star 21 30.9 7.3-15.7 .468 0.9-2.3 .375 1.9-2.4 .784 0.8 2.4 3.1 4.6 0.1 0.7 0.7 2.6 17.4

...yes, it did.

Even easier if you break it down after Christmas, he started the season with the mask and the orbital fracture when the mask came off after Christmas here's what his numbers looked like.

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[blueNorange]

His numbers in Chicago when he was finally recovered showed an upward trend in production. This isn't anything new.

no it didn't.

Pre All-Star 45 32.2 6.5-16.0 .408 0.6-2.3 .255 2.3-2.8 .797 0.7 2.9 3.5 4.8 0.3 0.6 1.6 2.7 15.9
Post All-Star 21 30.9 7.3-15.7 .468 0.9-2.3 .375 1.9-2.4 .784 0.8 2.4 3.1 4.6 0.1 0.7 0.7 2.6 17.4

...yes, it did.

ts% under .500,

[bronxknicksfan1]

no it didn't.

Pre All-Star 45 32.2 6.5-16.0 .408 0.6-2.3 .255 2.3-2.8 .797 0.7 2.9 3.5 4.8 0.3 0.6 1.6 2.7 15.9
Post All-Star 21 30.9 7.3-15.7 .468 0.9-2.3 .375 1.9-2.4 .784 0.8 2.4 3.1 4.6 0.1 0.7 0.7 2.6 17.4

...yes, it did.

ts% under .500,

Post All Star game last year, he was at .521 TS% going up from .460 pre All Star game. Which showed the upward trend. Anything else I should debunk for you?

[blueNorange]

Pre All-Star 45 32.2 6.5-16.0 .408 0.6-2.3 .255 2.3-2.8 .797 0.7 2.9 3.5 4.8 0.3 0.6 1.6 2.7 15.9
Post All-Star 21 30.9 7.3-15.7 .468 0.9-2.3 .375 1.9-2.4 .784 0.8 2.4 3.1 4.6 0.1 0.7 0.7 2.6 17.4

...yes, it did.

ts% under .500,

Post All Star game last year, he was at .521 TS% going up from .460 pre All Star game. Which showed the upward trend. Anything else I should debunk for you?

would you like to know a secret?

a .521 ts% isn't good.

[3toheadmelo]

Once we get in the playoffs we're going to be a hell of a team to go against. You don't know what to expect from us in the playoffs. Our goal is to get there first." -- New York Knicks point guard Derrick Rose

He's been solid so far, passed each and every test," an Eastern Conference scout said of Rose recently. "He's given them everything they could've expected."

Kristaps Porzingis, in particular, seems to have benefited from Rose's presence. He has hit 44.1 percent of his 3-point attempts off Rose passes (15-of-34) entering the Knicks' game against the Atlanta Hawks on Wednesday

He gets there consistently and makes it difficult. That's something teams have to gameplan for," a Western Conference scout says. "And it opens things up for guys like Carmelo and Porzingis."

[bronxknicksfan1]

ts% under .500,

Post All Star game last year, he was at .521 TS% going up from .460 pre All Star game. Which showed the upward trend. Anything else I should debunk for you?

would you like to know a secret?

a .521 ts% isn't good.

It's not a matter of whether it's good or not, it's showing an upward trend which has continued to show as the season has progressed. He's been playing better as he's gotten more comfortable and that's a fact.

[blueNorange]

Post All Star game last year, he was at .521 TS% going up from .460 pre All Star game. Which showed the upward trend. Anything else I should debunk for you?

would you like to know a secret?

a .521 ts% isn't good.

It's not a matter of whether it's good or not, it's showing an upward trend which has continued to show as the season has progressed. He's been playing better as he's gotten more comfortable and that's a fact.

contract year.

[bronxknicksfan1]

would you like to know a secret?

a .521 ts% isn't good.

It's not a matter of whether it's good or not, it's showing an upward trend which has continued to show as the season has progressed. He's been playing better as he's gotten more comfortable and that's a fact.

contract year.

I have to be getting trolled because...Jesus

[Im Coming Home]

It's not a matter of whether it's good or not, it's showing an upward trend which has continued to show as the season has progressed. He's been playing better as he's gotten more comfortable and that's a fact.

contract year.

I have to be getting trolled because...Jesus

Don't bother trying to convince bNo he loves moving the goal posts everytime you correct him.

[Im Coming Home]

I don't like Rose on a long contract but I really like what he brings to this team. He's a different scorer than KP and Melo which adds a dynamic to the offense.

Melo and KP generally score around the same areas so it makes it 'easier' to guard compared to Rose penetration offense + Melo/KPs Mid-range/3pt game.

I like the balance between those.

[Im Coming Home]

All this arguing. Everyone on this forum should be on the same page praying he signs that extension. Because he's phils guy and he's going to get at least a BUCK bare minimum in the off season.

I'm hoping he signs that extension, Noah picks his game up, we make the playoffs, and can pickup a playmaker cut from rondos cloth mid to late draft. And then maybe we can slide rose over to the 2. Have Lee strengthen the bench.

These are my hopes assuming rose Noah and Carmelo are here for the long haul. I prefer a rebuild personally. But it's a safe assumption that this current team is phils knicks going forward. So I'm hoping it plays out that way.


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Phil is doing a great job of making an at least competitive and exciting team while also building towards the future. Something very rare to see in today's NBA sans the Spurs.

Not only do we have vets but we have some great young role players who have a ton of potential.

KP and WHG both have amazing potential and both already show flashes of greatness(KP more-so obviously)

Then we have others like Kuz and O'Quinn who are generally young and have shown they can play in this league as well.

Phil is doing a great job of mixing/balancing win-now and prepare for the future and I really am enjoying it right now.
Sure I'd love to get KP a young guard running mate, I even made a thread about this last season asking if people were worried KP would get stuck alone as a star here once Melo leaves because we didn't tank when we could.

But if Phil believes that he can do both at the same time and still have a bright future(which it seems he has shown he can somewhat with WHG and KP) then I'm all for giving him a shot because this man has been our most stable President/GM(I know Mills is technically GM) in decades. We know we won't wake up and find out we traded 4 1st rounders for Eddy Curry one morning and I love that stability.

Zen Master in full effect.

[3toheadmelo]

Rose had like one game in the past month right? Last night was terrible but he's been balling for the majority of the season

[AmazingJason]

I don't like Rose on a long contract but I really like what he brings to this team. He's a different scorer than KP and Melo which adds a dynamic to the offense.

Melo and KP generally score around the same areas so it makes it 'easier' to guard compared to Rose penetration offense + Melo/KPs Mid-range/3pt game.

I like the balance between those.

Give Rose the 3-year max extension of $75M. Ntikilina won't be ready to play from Day 1, but he'll be ready after being Rose's understudy for 3 years. Plus they both have good size and can play together. It's actually perfect when you think about it.

[NYKMentality85]

I don't like Rose on a long contract but I really like what he brings to this team. He's a different scorer than KP and Melo which adds a dynamic to the offense.

Melo and KP generally score around the same areas so it makes it 'easier' to guard compared to Rose penetration offense + Melo/KPs Mid-range/3pt game.

I like the balance between those.

Give Rose the 3-year max extension of $75M. Ntikilina won't be ready to play from Day 1, but he'll be ready after being Rose's understudy for 3 years. Plus they both have good size and can play together. It's actually perfect when you think about it.

Frank Ntilikina is projected (and will go) top 10 overall. As of right now N.Y has the 12th best record within the entire league and only 2.0 gms back of the NBA's 10th best record. A.) We're not drafting Ntilikina due to B). Not being a lottery team.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I don't like Rose on a long contract but I really like what he brings to this team. He's a different scorer than KP and Melo which adds a dynamic to the offense.

Melo and KP generally score around the same areas so it makes it 'easier' to guard compared to Rose penetration offense + Melo/KPs Mid-range/3pt game.

I like the balance between those.

Give Rose the 3-year max extension of $75M. Ntikilina won't be ready to play from Day 1, but he'll be ready after being Rose's understudy for 3 years. Plus they both have good size and can play together. It's actually perfect when you think about it.

Frank Ntilikina is projected (and will go) top 10 overall. As of right now N.Y has the 12th best record within the entire league and only 2.0 gms back of the NBA's 10th best record. A.) We're not drafting Ntilikina due to B). Not being a lottery team.

We're 4 games in the loss column ahead of the 12th seed in the east. Given how up and down this season has been, it's very possible we still end up in the lottery. So, A) we might be able to draft Frank depending on who goes ahead of him and where we are in the draft order and B) we can still very well be a lottery team. Might as well add C) you have no idea if he is going to go top 10.

Welcome back, by the way

[DOT]

Give Rose the 3-year max extension of $75M. Ntikilina won't be ready to play from Day 1, but he'll be ready after being Rose's understudy for 3 years. Plus they both have good size and can play together. It's actually perfect when you think about it.

Frank Ntilikina is projected (and will go) top 10 overall. As of right now N.Y has the 12th best record within the entire league and only 2.0 gms back of the NBA's 10th best record. A.) We're not drafting Ntilikina due to B). Not being a lottery team.

We're 4 games in the loss column ahead of the 12th seed in the east. Given how up and down this season has been, it's very possible we still end up in the lottery. So, A) we might be able to draft Frank depending on who goes ahead of him and where we are in the draft order and B) we can still very well be a lottery team. Might as well add C) you have no idea if he is going to go top 10.

Welcome back, by the way

I'm just hoping that because this is such a guard-heavy draft, teams with established PGs start to pass on them because they're not needed and one of them falls to us. I think Ntikilina is the most likely to drop to us if we pick outside the lottery.
If not and we need a late-round pick, I have my eye on Edmond Sumner

[blueNorange]

Rose had like one game in the past month right? Last night was terrible but he's been balling for the majority of the season

except he hasn't.

[AmazingJason]

I don't like Rose on a long contract but I really like what he brings to this team. He's a different scorer than KP and Melo which adds a dynamic to the offense.

Melo and KP generally score around the same areas so it makes it 'easier' to guard compared to Rose penetration offense + Melo/KPs Mid-range/3pt game.

I like the balance between those.

Give Rose the 3-year max extension of $75M. Ntikilina won't be ready to play from Day 1, but he'll be ready after being Rose's understudy for 3 years. Plus they both have good size and can play together. It's actually perfect when you think about it.

Frank Ntilikina is projected (and will go) top 10 overall. As of right now N.Y has the 12th best record within the entire league and only 2.0 gms back of the NBA's 10th best record. A.) We're not drafting Ntilikina due to B). Not being a lottery team.

The talk of Ntikilina is not based on our current record, but how we've actually played on the court. Obviously, when I watch the games, my heart roots for us to win. But my head knows that our record is way above our actual performance, and our players are who they are. I can easily see things start to even out very soon and us falling out of the playoff race altogether. One short-term injury to any of the Big 3 and we're probably done for. Heck, right now Lee is out and that means we'll see Sasha out there for extended minutes.

[cayuck]

Give Rose the 3-year max extension of $75M. Ntikilina won't be ready to play from Day 1, but he'll be ready after being Rose's understudy for 3 years. Plus they both have good size and can play together. It's actually perfect when you think about it.

Frank Ntilikina is projected (and will go) top 10 overall. As of right now N.Y has the 12th best record within the entire league and only 2.0 gms back of the NBA's 10th best record. A.) We're not drafting Ntilikina due to B). Not being a lottery team.

The talk of Ntikilina is not based on our current record, but how we've actually played on the court. Obviously, when I watch the games, my heart roots for us to win. But my head knows that our record is way above our actual performance, and our players are who they are. I can easily see things start to even out very soon and us falling out of the playoff race altogether. One short-term injury to any of the Big 3 and we're probably done for. Heck, right now Lee is out and that means we'll see Sasha out there for extended minutes.

I agree with this and could definitely see the team take a dramatic fall after a bad injury especially with how porous defense is.

By the same token though even though I don't see a team giving full effort and playing enough defense, I do think talent wise the roster is still a top 5 team in the eastern conference. So I could also see a scenario where Noah finds his groove (he's looked much better the last 4-5 games) and Rose, Melo, KP get more and more comfortable together and buy into Hornacek/Phil, along with guys like WHG, KO, and Kouz continuing to develop and I could see the team go on a run.

Really is hard to say what will happen over the rest of the season. I can't give up hope yet that these guys find a way to gel.