Would you move Paul George?

[Senbonzakura]

Sorry if I'm not allowed to or supposed to do this but with you guys probably looking at a lower playoff seed this year and George eligible to hit free agency in 2018 I believe would you guys entertain moving him? I've seen a few of you suggest turner might actually be better at the four with a physical post presence next to him. Just wondering if an offer cantered around valanciunas, Ross and a bunch of prospects and picks would pique anyone's, namely Bird's interest.

[boomershadow]

Realistically I don't see Paul getting moved at all. But hypothetically, I don't think Bird moves Paul George for almost any offer unless it's next season before the deadline and Paul has privately said he doesn't plan to resign with us, or it's just an absolutely outrageous and lopsided return for him. And I can't off the top of my head think of what that might be.

I think Bird has hinted in interviews that he gets calls about Paul that are basically not even worth thinking about, much less going through with. If some of the suggestions on the Trades and Transactions section are anywhere close, I can't say I disagree much. I suspect most teams in the league would jump at the chance to trade a few mismatched pieces and a draft pick for a player of PG's talent.

[basketballwacko2]

I know the Raptors have 2 picks in this years draft but they are gonna be in the high 20's. Ross is wildly inconsistent, Toronto has several young players but I don't see a combination that would get the Pacers interested. Val, Ross, the #1's from 2017 and what else do you have?

The reality of it is unless PG tells Bird he wants traded or says that he won't sign an extension this summer I don't see him being traded unless you're knocking our socks off with something crazy.

[8305]

Generally I wouldn't trade him unless I didn't think he could be re-signed. Even then I only see a handful of teams with potential return pieces that would tempt me. At least two top level prospects would be the minimum return for me in in a PG13 trade. Teams that look to have that:

Minnesota
Boston
Philadelphia
Phoenix
New Orleans (assuming they have a top 3 2017 draft pick)
Orlando

I also figure for these teams to make make a suitable offer they have to see a pathway to resigning Paul. That May out of hand take a Phoenix or Philly out of the running because they are so far from contending. All that said the package suggested here doesn't come close to moving the needle for me.

[SBM]

Yes, I would trade him.

My ideal move would be a 3 team trade with Minny, Philly, and Indy with Indy receiving Noels and Lavine.

[Pacersike]

Hard to say no when you have made threads to trade PG on T&T, but I do think it is better to wait till after the playoffs to make a decision. There have been signs that he isn't totally happy or good enough as leader to lead his teammates, but I prefer to get a very good pick of our own when trading PG and now it is too late for that.

I expect him to put up great stats in the playoffs, so wether or not some of his teammates will follow, he will keep most of his trade value or advance in the playoffs and be happy.

Either way, other teams have better pieces to trade for Paul George. It won't be to Toronto.

[Pacers_Freak]

This argument is ridiculous. Pg is not getting traded. All the teams listed above are not contenders with Pg, would not be able to resign him, and therefore wouldn't give up their great young pieces. The only team that would be a contender Boston, has no valuable pieces that would even get close to equal value.

[Clutch31]

This argument is ridiculous. Pg is not getting traded. All the teams listed above are not contenders with Pg, would not be able to resign him, and therefore wouldn't give up their great young pieces. The only team that would be a contender Boston, has no valuable pieces that would even get close to equal value.

Not that i want to trade PG, but i don't fully agree about Boston not having anything close to equal value. They don't when it comes down to their current players, but what about some of their good roleplayers plus Brooklyn picks? That could create a very deep team with the chance of drafting something great.

[Pacers_Freak]

This argument is ridiculous. Pg is not getting traded. All the teams listed above are not contenders with Pg, would not be able to resign him, and therefore wouldn't give up their great young pieces. The only team that would be a contender Boston, has no valuable pieces that would even get close to equal value.

Not that i want to trade PG, but i don't fully agree about Boston not having anything close to equal value. They don't when it comes down to their current players, but what about some of their good roleplayers plus Brooklyn picks? That could create a very deep team with the chance of drafting something great.

I don't think Boston gives up the valuable picks for a one year rental of Pg. Plus I still don't think it would be fair value for us. Trading away a top guy in the league for potential.... not sure it is worth the gamble.

[Gremz]

In theory you never do. Trading a guy like PG very rarely nets your franchise a more positive position than you had. For arguments sake, this offseason is when you really try to get that extension signed, and if for some reason the resistance is interpreted as a request to leave the Pacers then, and only then, do you explore possibilities. The Pacers do have the luxury of the new CBA agreement which should play quite well in their favor, so I do think the extension will be exercised, but who knows.

[Pacers_Freak]

In theory you never do. Trading a guy like PG very rarely nets your franchise a more positive position than you had. For arguments sake, this offseason is when you really try to get that extension signed, and if for some reason the resistance is interpreted as a request to leave the Pacers then, and only then, do you explore possibilities. The Pacers do have the luxury of the new CBA agreement which should play quite well in their favor, so I do think the extension will be exercised, but who knows.

Bingo. Too many people try and play fantasy basketball with real life basketball. Very well said by you.

[Clutch31]

This argument is ridiculous. Pg is not getting traded. All the teams listed above are not contenders with Pg, would not be able to resign him, and therefore wouldn't give up their great young pieces. The only team that would be a contender Boston, has no valuable pieces that would even get close to equal value.

Not that i want to trade PG, but i don't fully agree about Boston not having anything close to equal value. They don't when it comes down to their current players, but what about some of their good roleplayers plus Brooklyn picks? That could create a very deep team with the chance of drafting something great.

I don't think Boston gives up the valuable picks for a one year rental of Pg. Plus I still don't think it would be fair value for us. Trading away a top guy in the league for potential.... not sure it is worth the gamble.

I'm not sure it's worth the gamble too. And normally you would only take a gamble like this if a player like PG won't resign. I'm just pointing out, that if you do it, then you should do it for the chance of getting someting great in return.

[Skin]

This argument is ridiculous. Pg is not getting traded. All the teams listed above are not contenders with Pg, would not be able to resign him, and therefore wouldn't give up their great young pieces. The only team that would be a contender Boston, has no valuable pieces that would even get close to equal value.

There is one catch to this... the Orlando Magic. Maybe they wouldn't be contenders, but the Magic are desperate and the Vogel's connection to PG could get him to stay with the Magic.

What I will say is that the sooner you find out about what to do with PG, the better your return will be. See Ibaka. Magic paid up for it with a high price, but if they were to do it even mid-season, the offers get infinitely worse because of the ole "he's just a rental" price tag.

See anything ORL could do to get PG? IMO, Aaron Gordon would be a great fit next to Turner at PF. If we added Fournier or Vucevic for salary cap matching purposes and threw in Mario Hezonja, what would you think of that? If not that, anyone got a counter offer?

[Skin]

Generally I wouldn't trade him unless I didn't think he could be re-signed. Even then I only see a handful of teams with potential return pieces that would tempt me. At least two top level prospects would be the minimum return for me in in a PG13 trade. Teams that look to have that:

Minnesota
Boston
Philadelphia
Phoenix
New Orleans (assuming they have a top 3 2017 draft pick)
Orlando

I also figure for these teams to make make a suitable offer they have to see a pathway to resigning Paul. That May out of hand take a Phoenix or Philly out of the running because they are so far from contending. All that said the package suggested here doesn't come close to moving the needle for me.

What would you want from ORL?

[Pacers_Freak]

This argument is ridiculous. Pg is not getting traded. All the teams listed above are not contenders with Pg, would not be able to resign him, and therefore wouldn't give up their great young pieces. The only team that would be a contender Boston, has no valuable pieces that would even get close to equal value.

There is one catch to this... the Orlando Magic. Maybe they wouldn't be contenders, but the Magic are desperate and the Vogel's connection to PG could get him to stay with the Magic.

What I will say is that the sooner you find out about what to do with PG, the better your return will be. See Ibaka. Magic paid up for it with a high price, but if they were to do it even mid-season, the offers get infinitely worse because of the ole "he's just a rental" price tag.

See anything ORL could do to get PG? IMO, Aaron Gordon would be a great fit next to Turner at PF. If we added Fournier or Vucevic for salary cap matching purposes and threw in Mario Hezonja, what would you think of that? If not that, anyone got a counter offer?

I think the difference in your analogy is we didn't give anything up for PG. Unless he says I don't want to come back we do everything we can to keep him. No offense to the Magic, but I don't see any pieces that would add up to make sense.

[SBM]

I like PG but I am not sure he is a superstar if you can get a superstar return you have to look at it. Saying no way is not the way to go.

[celtspacers]

I would trade him in a 3 way with. Boston and Minnisota. pacers getting Andrew Wiggins and New jersey Draft pick.

[Pacers_Freak]

I would trade him in a 3 way with. Boston and Minnisota. pacers getting Andrew Wiggins and New jersey Draft pick.

No thanks.

[SBM]

I would trade him in a 3 way with. Boston and Minnisota. pacers getting Andrew Wiggins and New jersey Draft pick.

That would be a good trade.

[Pacers_Freak]

I would trade him in a 3 way with. Boston and Minnisota. pacers getting Andrew Wiggins and New jersey Draft pick.

That would be a good trade.