And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd

[CoachJReturns]

clippers getting smacked again. a top 20 pick in 2017 is better than everything after the 8th pick in 2016

OKC about to make up a game on Clippers, Utah with a chance to do the same at home against Phoenix and Memphis already picked up a game with a win in Sacramento.
Could be a very, very good night in Thank Nation.

[nbafan341]

What do peopel think about clearing salary cap and collecting draft picks while giving more playing time to some of our younger players? I think this draft is extremely good and there a couple players that I think could really help our team. I know most ppl want the next move to be the one that puts us on cleveland's level but It's still unlikely to work out. Would really like to develop some younger talent and stay competitive so that we could potentially package a younger player + a pick to move up in the draft ( late lottery, 11-14th). Both OG Anouby and Lauri Markenwhatever look like high ball IQ players who can play defence and hit the 3. Lauri look like porzingis with better perimeter defence and less shot blocking and better pick and roll defence. High ball iq player too. Anouby would get so many open 3pt shots playing on our team, rebound and defend better than carroll, ross, and powell. I think if Casey really wanted to try something like small ball, he could even play Anouby at Center( JUST IN SOME LINEUPS) with this kid's 7"6 wingspan.

OG Anuoby, Lauri Marken, Terrence Ferguson could really help our team and they'll get great shots in toronto

[DeKobe DeBryant]

Clippers are the 7th seed now.

That's crazy.

[DeKobe DeBryant]

Found this guy recently. I have been seeing a lot of videos on him and he looks like he has tons of potential. It might be a reach to take him in the 20s but I think it'll pay off. We have a lot of guards but he looks like he could be a decent backup.

Have you been living under a rock? Sorry dont mean to be a prick but this is one of the least-informed posts I've ever read.

This man is a TOP PROSPECT. Some mocks have him going first overall. I predict him to be in the top 3

I thought it was funny

[nbafan341]

22nd pick!

[720]

I'm not wishing an injury on a player but if CP3 gets injured I can see the clippers spiraling downward and possibly getting us a mid to maybe late lottery pick.

[LJKO]

Just Beautiful Drops to 7th seed of the west

[isyed]

Just Beautiful Drops to 7th seed of the west

This might be an even better thank nation than last year. Can you imagine if we get a 15th or 16th pick and also the 27th pick in this draft? Crazy!!!!

[isyed]

Do we also have the Knicks second rounder and out own second rounder this year? We potentially have the option of doing stash international player with our own pick and maybe the knicks get knocked out of the playoffs and give us a pick in the mid 40s. Not a bad option to find another player like Norman perhaps?

[CoachJReturns]

We have our own 2nd rounder, but we dealt the Knicks 2nd already.

[CoachJReturns]

Best night of the season so far for Thank Nation. Happy New Year everyone.

[DreamTeam09]

Remember that this pick is lottery protected, lac have to make the playoffs

[RaptorsLife]

this gonna be a funny thank pick to track. theres night were gonna be happy clippers and nights were mad they lost. i think 9th long off but they look awful right now

[Clutch0z24]

personally i hope with the injuries Lac stay around the 7th seed since the west is alot tougher i can see them losing alot and lose traction but still too good of a team to miss the playoffs....Unless they start to tank on purpose and Trade Blake (Contract Year) and go for a lotto pick ...But i dont see that happening...

Top 15-18 pick would be huge

[UcanUwill]

I'm not wishing an injury on a player but if CP3 gets injured I can see the clippers spiraling downward and possibly getting us a mid to maybe late lottery pick.

I think its lottery protected.

[LonZoBallin]

Dwayne Bacon is gonna be nice. idk why he didn't come out last year. Both him and Rabb will regret it imo

I watched a lot of FSU last year because of XRM and Bacon was better than Beasley who went 19th overall. Rabb would have ended up going 3rd if he came out last draft. I'm telling you Boston would have taken him over Brown. Same potential but he was a better fit for the cetlics. This year I doubt he goes top 10....and he's playing good. Rabb does have one thing going for him, though, it's a guard heavy draft and he's a big.

[LonZoBallin]

is there any trade history of a team trading two picks in the 20's to move up in the draft? How high were they able to move up?

I feel like the Raptors have enough young players with lower ceilings. Even last draft with Poeltl, you can usually get a guy with Poeltls potential in the 20's. Packaging the two picks with maybe a Dwright, Poeltl, pascal to move into the late lottery/mid teens would be what I'd be trying to do. Especially if MU likes a guy the way he liked Greek freak and I feel like there will be players in the 11-16 range with All-star potential.

If you can't package the two picks to move up I'd look to trade one. I know it's a deep draft but because of that those picks in the 20's will have more value. I'd trade one of the picks for a future 1st round pick. In the long run that future 1st round pick will have more trade value going forward than whoever we take with those picks. There is just no minutes for them.

It's going to be hard for whoever we take with the picks in the 20's to get minutes. If you think about it the only player that will be off our roster next year is Sully...maybe Patterson. Both play PF so if we let both walk are we really going forward with Pascal and a PF we pick in the 20's at the 4 spot? With a team that's finished top 2 Idk if having your PF spot filled with a 2nd year Pascal and a rookie in the 20's is the move to make. That's why packaging the two picks to move up or trading one of them for a future 1st round pick is the best way to maximize our assets.

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is there any trade history of a team trading two picks in the 20's to move up in the draft? How high were they able to move up?

Yes, it happens frequently. But there is less of a pattern to how high one can move up. It depends on the quality of the draft, the position of the picks, etc. The most ambitious moveup I can remember was when Houston packaged three firsts on draft night in 2001 - the picks were #13, #18, #21 - for the #7 pick to select the late Eddie Griffin. The deal worked out well for the Nets who got Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong. Considering the Raps and Clips picks are in the 20s, but also that this is considered a particularly deep draft with rotation calibre players available throughout the first round, I'd guess that dealing our two firsts *AS THEY CURRENTLY STAND* would get one a pick in the mid to late teens. It's said to be a particularly good point guard draft, so a team with such a need plus a desire to add a little more youth and athleticism at another position might find the PG pickings on their list just as good as hanging on to the mid-teen pick they earned with their W/L record. For example, if the Knicks feel they need young PG but also want to fill a second position for the future, they might be targeting a player who is likely to be available at #25, so why pick him at #17? And they have other needs and an aging roster. The Bulls are in the same boat.

But such trades almost never happen before draft night. Often they are contingent on the availability of certain players as the draft proceeds through the first round.

[LonZoBallin]

is there any trade history of a team trading two picks in the 20's to move up in the draft? How high were they able to move up?

Yes, it happens frequently. But there is less of a pattern to how high one can move up. It depends on the quality of the draft, the position of the picks, etc. The most ambitious moveup I can remember was when Houston packaged three firsts on draft night in 2001 - the picks were #13, #18, #21 - for the #7 pick to select the late Eddie Griffin. The deal worked out well for the Nets who got Richard Jefferson, Jason Collins and Brandon Armstrong. Considering the Raps and Clips picks are in the 20s, but also that this is considered a particularly deep draft with rotation calibre players available throughout the first round, I'd guess that dealing our two firsts *AS THEY CURRENTLY STAND* would get one a pick in the mid to late teens. It's said to be a particularly good point guard draft, so a team with such a need plus a desire to add a little more youth and athleticism at another position might find the PG pickings on their list just as good as hanging on to the mid-teen pick they earned with their W/L record. For example, if the Knicks feel they need young PG but also want to fill a second position for the future, they might be targeting a player who is likely to be available at #25, so why pick him at #17? And they have other needs and an aging roster. The Bulls are in the same boat.

But such trades almost never happen before draft night. Often they are contingent on the availability of certain players as the draft proceeds through the first round.

I agree, they only happen on draft night. Usually happens when a player a team wanted isn't there and the next guy they like is projected farther down in the draft. They don't want to make a pick that seems like a reach so they trade back a bit in the draft and take their guy, plus gain other assets(extra pick and/or prospect) The Kings pick last year is a perfect example of that. I think Buddy/Murray/Brown were their guys, when all were off the board they had to trade back to pick whoever that guy they took.

Hopefully this situation happens and we're able to move up. I feel like a lot of the guys projected in the 11-6 range fit our need( Giles, Markkanen, Robert Williams, TJ Leaf, Bam Adebayo, Isaiah Hartenstein, Ivan Rabb) Like if Giles or Markkanen somehow drop in the early teen area, I think we could steal a potential star

[T-d0t]

No chance that the Clips fall out of the playoffs because that 8th seed in the West is below 500