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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#21 » by NuggetsWY » Sun Jan 1, 2017 3:09 am

:wink: That'd be why I'm on here more than ever - too many restrictions right now. But it should finish before Memorial Day and then I'll leave you guys alone a little more.
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#22 » by skywalker33 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 4:24 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Don't forget the new CBA is allowing 2 more players per roster...

Uh, I forgot :lol: Seriously, I did. :nod: My only excuse is the meds I have to take for a while are kicking my backside and jarring the topside. 8-)



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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#23 » by Coeur » Sun Jan 1, 2017 6:10 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:#7 the first can play no matter how poorly
#7 the second's minutes started slow, then went up - way up, then went down, back up a little, no sliding down again
#7 the third? Hmmm, no minutes? 30+ mpg? D-league? Euro-stash?
Should we start a pool as to how many minutes next year's top Nuggets' rookie averages? :banghead:


WY. you're jaded bro, :lol: . Granted I can't argue with with your assessment as it is spot on, but this draft is noted as "the best in 10 years" as well as one of the deepest in a long while. To me, that says the #7 in this draft is likened to a top 3-4 pick in most others. To already predict "no minutes" is a bit over-the-top IMO, but I'm a bit jaded too :noway: . Two other factors will be who is still on the roster as well as who is coaching this team, which may be a bit wishful thinking on my part. Both of these can impact Murray as well, although I do think Malone makes it though the season.

Seems like this year is going to just like the last 2 years, I'm already looking for draft position than I am for wins.

Two more first round picks - we could trade some veterans and gain another pick or two - two is enough with all the youth we have, but with this deep draft, I wouldn't mind three firsts - but I doubt the front office would pay the price; it might take two of our veterans to get a lottery level pick and even then I'm not sure anyone will be interested unless they put unreasonable protection on it (like top seven or something close to that)

Ages next year

20 Murray
21 Mudiay
21 Beasley
22 Jokic
22 Hernangomez
23 Nurkic
23 Harris

Add in two rookies and maybe two stashed players

23 Radicevic
22 Cornelie

That could be 11 players 23 years old and under - I suspect it will be more like 8-9 players with some stashed.
That leaves 4-7 slots for veterans. I'd sure hate to see 7 veterans next year. Five or six would be acceptable to me at least. We have eight veterans right now.

Next year's age

37 Miller
35 Nelson
30 Chandler
30 Gee
29 Gallinari
29 Arthur
28 Faried
26 Barton - wouldn't mind keeping him

They need to slam this thing into an iceberg. It's time to be real about your key parts and about all the vets


Gallinari- yeah nobody wants to trade this guy. But do they know for sure they want to pay him 30 million a year and do they know he will take it? Gallinari could bring big value. Wilson chandler a lot of the same.


I think the front office needs to be proactive.


The Core: jokic, mudiay, murray

Trade gallo, chandler, harris, faried now.


You make Nurkic count as big value before feeling like you have to trade him. Same with Barton or one of the rookies


It's time to tank. It's time to firesale half the roster
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#24 » by Coeur » Sun Jan 1, 2017 6:13 am

Hartenstien and frank Jackson as pick 20 targets is perfect imo.
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#25 » by skywalker33 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 7:19 am

Coeur wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
WY. you're jaded bro, :lol: . Granted I can't argue with with your assessment as it is spot on, but this draft is noted as "the best in 10 years" as well as one of the deepest in a long while. To me, that says the #7 in this draft is likened to a top 3-4 pick in most others. To already predict "no minutes" is a bit over-the-top IMO, but I'm a bit jaded too :noway: . Two other factors will be who is still on the roster as well as who is coaching this team, which may be a bit wishful thinking on my part. Both of these can impact Murray as well, although I do think Malone makes it though the season.

Seems like this year is going to just like the last 2 years, I'm already looking for draft position than I am for wins.

Two more first round picks - we could trade some veterans and gain another pick or two - two is enough with all the youth we have, but with this deep draft, I wouldn't mind three firsts - but I doubt the front office would pay the price; it might take two of our veterans to get a lottery level pick and even then I'm not sure anyone will be interested unless they put unreasonable protection on it (like top seven or something close to that)

Ages next year

20 Murray
21 Mudiay
21 Beasley
22 Jokic
22 Hernangomez
23 Nurkic
23 Harris

Add in two rookies and maybe two stashed players

23 Radicevic
22 Cornelie

That could be 11 players 23 years old and under - I suspect it will be more like 8-9 players with some stashed.
That leaves 4-7 slots for veterans. I'd sure hate to see 7 veterans next year. Five or six would be acceptable to me at least. We have eight veterans right now.

Next year's age

37 Miller
35 Nelson
30 Chandler
30 Gee
29 Gallinari
29 Arthur
28 Faried
26 Barton - wouldn't mind keeping him

They need to slam this thing into an iceberg. It's time to be real about your key parts and about all the vets


Gallinari- yeah nobody wants to trade this guy. But do they know for sure they want to pay him 30 million a year and do they know he will take it? Gallinari could bring big value. Wilson chandler a lot of the same.


I think the front office needs to be proactive.


The Core: jokic, mudiay, murray

Trade gallo, chandler, harris, faried now.


You make Nurkic count as big value before feeling like you have to trade him. Same with Barton or one of the rookies


It's time to tank. It's time to firesale half the roster


Harris is our starting SG, is our best defender and a 2-way 3-D guy. While I agree with trading some of the vets, Harris is NOT a guy I'd be trading !!
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#26 » by NuggetsWY » Sun Jan 1, 2017 11:09 am

Trading Harris would be a huge mistake. He may not be a franchise cornerstone, but he's a keeper without question!
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#27 » by skywalker33 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 6:07 pm

An interesting name I found on Bleacher' Report: Ike Anigbogo

Check this description, seems like a nice fit next to Jokic

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684198-2017-nba-draft-big-board-where-prospects-stack-up-entering-new-year/page/11
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#28 » by NuggetsWY » Sun Jan 1, 2017 7:33 pm

skywalker33 wrote:An interesting name I found on Bleacher' Report: Ike Anigbogo

Check this description, seems like a nice fit next to Jokic

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684198-2017-nba-draft-big-board-where-prospects-stack-up-entering-new-year/page/11

From that report, he looks like a nice fit with anybody and a GREAT fix next to Jokic - his skills would work beautifully there!
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Re: 2017 Draft prospects and draft pick watch 

Post#29 » by skywalker33 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 9:01 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:An interesting name I found on Bleacher' Report: Ike Anigbogo

Check this description, seems like a nice fit next to Jokic

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2684198-2017-nba-draft-big-board-where-prospects-stack-up-entering-new-year/page/11

From that report, he looks like a nice fit with anybody and a GREAT fix next to Jokic - his skills would work beautifully there!


And he looks to be in reach of our MEM pick (so far)
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