2017 John Lynch hired as GM & Kyle Shanahan named HC

[arich35]

Firing Balkee is needed, not exactly sure I agree with firing Chip right away. Would like to hear what the new GM thinks first

[DoobieKeebler]

Wary of anyone from the Bellichek tree.

Especially if he pushes for a trade to get Garoppolo.

He'd be like a double-agent for the Pats, trying to fleece the 49ers for draft picks. Then he can go back to NE and replace Bellichek when he retires.

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[Ray_Dogg]

I'd love for Jed to get the presser over with tonight. Get the hunt going.

[wartyOne]

I'd love for Jed to get the presser over with tonight. Get the hunt going.

As long as Jed and Marathe are involved in the search I beleive with absolute certainty they will hire exactly the wrong people. More than that, I'm not even sure I care who they pick anymore. This franchise has been a joke since they became involved with it. I don't see that changing ever.

[wco81]

Problem is, why do they have such a large list? It's like a kid going to the candy store wanting everything.

Last year they had a long list and they took a long time before hiring Kelly. Same thing with the year they finally decided on Tomsula.

Focus on 2 or 3 guys, make a quick decision, so the new GM could be involved in the HC search, before it's too late and all the good candidates are snapped up.

For GM, it should be fairly simple, what kind of role these up and coming guys had in the successful drafts of their teams, whether they participated in the hiring and interviewing of HC and assistants, what kind of network they have with coaches and front office personnel around the league.

Get the most connected guy out there. In other words, the OPPOSITE of what Tomsula represented, someone with no professional network, unknown outside of one team. Same thing with Kelly, though he had HC experience, he hadn't been in the NFL long enough to establish ties with coaches around the league so the pickings for his staff seemed slim.

They shouldn't be nitpicking guys like fans do in the forums. If they can get the Shanahans, they should do it, because they can bring along a lot of good coaches and Kyle is going to be a hot HC prospect, if not this year, then in the future.

Instead, the GM list is like 6-10? I can see that ending up with them getting someone late in the process, after the most in-demand ones are snapped up. And then the HC search is delayed while they spend all this time to hire a GM and you end up with leftovers among HC candidates.

Speed it up, which is the opposite of what they did the last two years.

[RedneckNiner]

Jed needs to as soon as its permissible throw stacks of cas at Elliot Wolf, or Kirchner from Seattle till one of them says yes. Then Jed needs to go play with his Crayolas and Let Wolf hire the coaches. Maybe they get Jed an early copy of Madden VR and he gets lost in that game leaving the football people to turn the niners from laughing stock back to respectability

[ChrisPozz]

I'd love for Jed to get the presser over with tonight. Get the hunt going.

As long as Jed and Marathe are involved in the search I beleive with absolute certainty they will hire exactly the wrong people. More than that, I'm not even sure I care who they pick anymore. This franchise has been a joke since they became involved with it. I don't see that changing ever.

Thing is, I think you definitely care.

[ChrisPozz]

Problem is, why do they have such a large list? It's like a kid going to the candy store wanting everything.

Last year they had a long list and they took a long time before hiring Kelly. Same thing with the year they finally decided on Tomsula.

Focus on 2 or 3 guys, make a quick decision, so the new GM could be involved in the HC search, before it's too late and all the good candidates are snapped up.

For GM, it should be fairly simple, what kind of role these up and coming guys had in the successful drafts of their teams, whether they participated in the hiring and interviewing of HC and assistants, what kind of network they have with coaches and front office personnel around the league.

Get the most connected guy out there. In other words, the OPPOSITE of what Tomsula represented, someone with no professional network, unknown outside of one team. Same thing with Kelly, though he had HC experience, he hadn't been in the NFL long enough to establish ties with coaches around the league so the pickings for his staff seemed slim.

They shouldn't be nitpicking guys like fans do in the forums. If they can get the Shanahans, they should do it, because they can bring along a lot of good coaches and Kyle is going to be a hot HC prospect, if not this year, then in the future.

Instead, the GM list is like 6-10? I can see that ending up with them getting someone late in the process, after the most in-demand ones are snapped up. And then the HC search is delayed while they spend all this time to hire a GM and you end up with leftovers among HC candidates.

Speed it up, which is the opposite of what they did the last two years.

Don't criticize it until you know how serious they are with X out of X candidates and until details start to emerge and specifically on what day(s). Otherwise it's just silly IMO.

To want to speak to 6-10 guys is completely reasonable and almost always expected. Honestly, an owner sometimes will privately reach out to twice that many but for reasons outside of said owner's control, they can often cut their list in half to guys they might be able to speak to.

There would be a whole host of things that could come out that could raise cause for concern, such as getting through your first rounds of dialogue and needing to bring over a handful guys back for second interviews, but having a tiff over an owner that wants to speak to that many people in a timely fashion shouldn't be something that should upset any fan.

[wco81]

All I'm saying is that the last two hires took weeks while Harbaugh was hired in 5 days. At least someone posted that in the 49ers forums. That sounds right, York zeroed in on Harbaugh early and pressed for a decision right away, instead of meandering through a lot of candidates.

You can take time to learn about the candidates but if other teams are more decisive, your choices get winnowed anyways. At least that's how it works for coaches.

There may not be as many GM openings as HC openings but obviously the GM hiring will affect the HC hiring process and you may not have a chance to consider the best HC candidates.

[ChrisPozz]

Jason La Canfora:

49ers have interest in two of Seattle's top personnel men - Trent Kirchner and Scott Fitterer. Also, as reported, high on Louis Riddick

The Eagles had interest in Fitterer when Kelly was there after Roseman was booted. He interviewed with them but took his name out of the running after.

[RIPskaterdude]

The deed is done. It's official. Chip is gone

[ChrisPozz]

Problem is, why do they have such a large list? It's like a kid going to the candy store wanting everything.

Last year they had a long list and they took a long time before hiring Kelly. Same thing with the year they finally decided on Tomsula.

Focus on 2 or 3 guys, make a quick decision, so the new GM could be involved in the HC search, before it's too late and all the good candidates are snapped up.

For GM, it should be fairly simple, what kind of role these up and coming guys had in the successful drafts of their teams, whether they participated in the hiring and interviewing of HC and assistants, what kind of network they have with coaches and front office personnel around the league.

Get the most connected guy out there. In other words, the OPPOSITE of what Tomsula represented, someone with no professional network, unknown outside of one team. Same thing with Kelly, though he had HC experience, he hadn't been in the NFL long enough to establish ties with coaches around the league so the pickings for his staff seemed slim.

They shouldn't be nitpicking guys like fans do in the forums. If they can get the Shanahans, they should do it, because they can bring along a lot of good coaches and Kyle is going to be a hot HC prospect, if not this year, then in the future.

Instead, the GM list is like 6-10? I can see that ending up with them getting someone late in the process, after the most in-demand ones are snapped up. And then the HC search is delayed while they spend all this time to hire a GM and you end up with leftovers among HC candidates.

Speed it up, which is the opposite of what they did the last two years.

Don't criticize it until you know how serious they are with X out of X candidates and until details start to emerge and specifically on what day(s). Otherwise it's just silly IMO.

To want to speak to 6-10 guys is completely reasonable and almost always expected. Honestly, an owner sometimes will privately reach out to twice that many but for reasons outside of said owner's control, they can often cut their list in half to guys they might be able to speak to.

There would be a whole host of things that could come out that could raise cause for concern, such as getting through your first rounds of dialogue and needing to bring over a handful guys back for second interviews, but having a tiff over an owner that wants to speak to that many people in a timely fashion shouldn't be something that should upset any fan.

Ian Rapoport:

Among the likely interview targets for the #Rams: Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia, Sean McVay. They'll have 8-10. No contact yet with Saints.

Oh, no! The Rams are doing it wrong, too, right? They have eyes for 8-10 guys as well.

[ChrisPozz]

Report: Chip Kelly wanted to draft Dak Prescott, Trent Baalke said no

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/report-chip-kelly-wanted-to-draft-dak-prescott-trent-baalke-said-no/

This is the type of story that likely has so many connected parts that it's probably not presented in a way that it should be to nail down the accuracy. I would almost guarantee it. MDS kind of alludes to that at the end but some people will become more outraged over it than they should be IMO.

[Jikkle]

Report: Chip Kelly wanted to draft Dak Prescott, Trent Baalke said no

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/report-chip-kelly-wanted-to-draft-dak-prescott-trent-baalke-said-no/

This is the type of story that likely has so many connected parts that it's probably not presented in a way that it should be to nail down the accuracy. I would almost guarantee it. MDS kind of alludes to that at the end but some people will become more outraged over it than they should be IMO.

I'm taking a lot of these parting shots with a grain of salt.

They could be 100% true, partially true, or completely false but with this front office that loves to cover it's tracks with leaks it's hard to tell.

[wco81]

Yeah the Rams are such a good example of an organization to emulate.

[clyde21]

I'm tempted to say **** it let's just hire Louis Riddick. Love that guy.

[Jikkle]

My guess is Jed's number 1 scenario would be Caserio/McDaniels combo and trading for Garoppolo.

McDaniels name has always popped the past 3 coaching hires so my guess is that's Jed's ideal candidate.

It might not be farfetched as the 9ers job would be the only job where the two would get to work together this season.

As far as McDaniels goes I'm not really down or up on him because I don't know what he's learned from his 1st stint as HC. His Bronco stint I can write off as someone that was too young given too much power and tried too hard to emulate Belichick and in general I do see his mistakes with the Broncos as fixable. The question is if he has fixed them and even if they are fixed is he a capable head coach anyways.

[wco81]

Jed won't admit he's part of if not the biggest part of the problem:

Basically: Some good general manager and coaching candidates are going to look at Jed’s petty behavior in the run-up to the firings of Trent Baalke and Chip Kelly and his self-serving comments afterwards and think:

You know, he’s just going to blame me for his mistakes eventually.

Because that’s what York has done through his usual wave of pre- and post-firing leaks… and then in his first live comments about the season and the firings, to Peter King from Sports Illustrated.
The key section, with King’s comments at the beginning and end:

I asked York how he thought he could get a good coach now, with the reputation of a team that gave up on the last two so fast.“People have felt like that before,” York said, “and we were able to hire a coach of the year, and GM of the year. And we were able to win a championship.” He referred to Bill Walsh winning coach of the year and the Super Bowl — 35 years ago.

So Jed is trying to take general credit for hiring Walsh. Before Jed was even born. And his uncle Eddie DeBartolo Jr. was running team. After Jed fired Jim Harbaugh, hired Jim Tomsula, fired him after a year, then hired Chip Kelly, then fired him after a year.

So naturally, Jed says: Hey, Bill Walsh everybody!!

Just genius.

If he said it to Peter King, I guarantee you the Yorks believe it and it probably will come up at today’s presser.
Jed might even think he actually hired Bill Walsh.

Which is just Jed Being Jed, and that’s the theme of everything around the last few days in 49ers HQ: Things have been bad, but Jed thinks he has it figured it out, and he has his Greek chorus of national reporters to echo that.

And Jed might find the right guy by accident, because there are only 32 teams and good candidates will take a look at the 49ers if they’re offering large money and long-term deals, which the Yorks will have to do now after going through so many coaches in such rapid succession.

The Yorks stumbled into McCloughan, then Baalke’s good first years, and Harbaugh. They could do it again. But it’s all stumbling.

Nobody ripped Baalke more than me, and he built a horrendous roster, no doubt, but for Jed to blame him for Tomsula is just unbelievable, though that seems to be what Jed is doing now.

Except: Tomsula was the Yorks’ guy 100%. Always. If anything, Baalke tried to get them away from that by talking to Adam Gase, and it seems Gase was put off by Baalke neglecting to tell him until the 11th hour that any 49ers offer came with the stipulation that Tomsula had to be the defensive coordinator.

Baalke’s people skills, as always, were bad. But the Tomsula stipulation, I am quite certain, was entirely from the Yorks — he was their guy for years, the guy Jed day-dreamed of coaching this team even when Harbaugh was leading them to the Super Bowl.

So the spin now is … dumb. Self-defeating. So transparent. And good candidates will see through it.
But again, the 49ers might get this right. They are overdue to get one right.

Only 35 years ago, as an infant, Jed York sifted through the resumes, did the interviews, and hired Bill Walsh.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/02/jed-york-speaks-to-sis-peter-king-continues-to-behave-like-somebody-who-thinks-he-has-it-all-figured-out-but-really-really-doesnt/

"You can't fire the owner."

[wco81]

My guess is Jed's number 1 scenario would be Caserio/McDaniels combo and trading for Garoppolo.

McDaniels name has always popped the past 3 coaching hires so my guess is that's Jed's ideal candidate.

It might not be farfetched as the 9ers job would be the only job where the two would get to work together this season.

As far as McDaniels goes I'm not really down or up on him because I don't know what he's learned from his 1st stint as HC. His Bronco stint I can write off as someone that was too young given too much power and tried too hard to emulate Belichick and in general I do see his mistakes with the Broncos as fixable. The question is if he has fixed them and even if they are fixed is he a capable head coach anyways.

They should be interviewing Kyle Shanahan this week too, not just McDaniels.

If they don't, they must have a thing against the Shanahans. Maybe because a lot of former 49ers have pushed for the Shanahans before that Jed is purposely eliminating the Shanahans?

[clyde21]

Louis Riddick/David Shaw. Make this happen Jed and I'll forgive you.