Game 35: Orlando Magic (15-19) @ Indiana Pacers (16-18) - 6:00 PM ET

[Nemesis21]

Millsap is a near allstar. If they wanted a backup PG they could just sign him and not give him a 4 year deal like Rob did for DJ. They won't get a star for him, but 3 garbage players for Millsap is hilariously bad. It's just a bad idea. There's nothing really to fix this "deal"

Yes Millsap is an allstar, but again he's getting up in age and there aren't many years left. Say what you want calling them all scrubs. They currently have NO ONE behind Schroder, so getting a quality backup and a huge expiring is not as dumb as you are making it to be.

It's cool, from here on out I am going to keep any eye out for any ideas(FA,trades,draft) that you come up with, and instantly rip them apart and chit all over it and basically call you dumb, since that seems to be the norm around here.

Yes, they are all scrubs and they don't fit what the Hawks are looking for. Augustine has played on 4 teams in 4 years. He's not really a "quality" backup. Expiring contracts are not valuable in this league since most teams have cap room as it is. They could just sign a backup in free agency.

You're free to do that. I won't care one bit.

We'll see about that, Mr GM. Mr Know it all

[OrlandoDream]

I wanted Millsap bad in 2014 but he passed up on us. He will be 32 soon and i don't knows how much is left in there tank. At this point Millssap use a component piece in a contender. I see him being a great piece obj there Raps, Rockets, or Hornets.

[pepe1991]

Guys Milsap is rental. He has player option after this year. That's why Hawks are trading him.

[Nemesis21]

Guys Milsap is rental. He has player option after this year. That's why Hawks are trading him.

That's also why I didn't include any young talent in my trade idea on page 17.

[FKAri]

I just point it out because a few of us wanted him in that draft.

I was OK with Dipo, I liked McCollum, but the guy I wanted was Otto Porter. Which I guess explains why I am not a GM.

i laughed at this . Good to admit when you are wrong. Porter is not worst player . He is solid starter in NBA, just like Oladipo.

I didn't want Gordon, thought he was overhyped because his comparison to Griffin. He looked like Griffin ,but not from playing but cosmetical POV.

What are you talking about? Otto Porter may already be better than Oladipo now but if not will almost certainly be so by next season.

[pinoynurse]

i can see us going after millsap

hennigan has made every indication that he will trade whatever it takes to win now even if that move mortgages our future or is for a rental.

last year: traded tobias for jennings and ilyasova. (young player for rentals)

draft: trades oladipo and sabonis for ibaka. (young player for rentals)

dark days are coming

[shadrock]

i agree. bad contract handling by Hennigan. But then we forced it upon ourselves by the handling of our own players, having to overpay people to come here

I see no problem with 25 mil for Biz and DJ. Both have had good seasons.

Lot of money to pay for backups. Biz has been okay but I mean it's essentially 17m/yr for a hustle guy who only really plays one side of the ball. The middle class center is dying out in this league, or at least paying big for one is. DJ was a journeyman who's been on like 4 different teams the past 4 seasons. He shoots the 3 ball okay but he's the worst defender on this team.

And then one or both will have a big game and the opinions will change again. This board literally only has a one game memory. I remember atleast two or three dramatic swings back and forth this season for each player. But on the whole, i think both players have had strong seasons and earnt their contracts.

[tiderulz]

I see no problem with 25 mil for Biz and DJ. Both have had good seasons.

Lot of money to pay for backups. Biz has been okay but I mean it's essentially 17m/yr for a hustle guy who only really plays one side of the ball. The middle class center is dying out in this league, or at least paying big for one is. DJ was a journeyman who's been on like 4 different teams the past 4 seasons. He shoots the 3 ball okay but he's the worst defender on this team.

And then one or both will have a big game and the opinions will change again. This board literally only has a one game memory. I remember atleast two or three dramatic swings back and forth this season for each player. But on the whole, i think both players have had strong seasons and earnt their contracts.

i view it different but willing to hear why. DJ just raised his FG% to 40% last game and is shooting 37% from 3, and cant defend anyone. Would like to hear why you think he has earned his contract?

[shadrock]

Lot of money to pay for backups. Biz has been okay but I mean it's essentially 17m/yr for a hustle guy who only really plays one side of the ball. The middle class center is dying out in this league, or at least paying big for one is. DJ was a journeyman who's been on like 4 different teams the past 4 seasons. He shoots the 3 ball okay but he's the worst defender on this team.

And then one or both will have a big game and the opinions will change again. This board literally only has a one game memory. I remember atleast two or three dramatic swings back and forth this season for each player. But on the whole, i think both players have had strong seasons and earnt their contracts.

i view it different but willing to hear why. DJ just raised his FG% to 40% last game and is shooting 37% from 3, and cant defend anyone. Would like to hear why you think he has earned his contract?

For starters, 37% from 3pt range is very good. And the eye test also tells me that he is a good long range shooter. What i like about him is he can space the floor which is something Elf struggles to do, so they balance each other out in that sense. He reminds me of Jameer in his later Orlando years, in that he can hit some big buckets in late game situations at times, is strong from 3, and can create off the dribble. Defense is obviously his shortcoming, but i can live with that. Overall i see him as a very solid piece to have at 4 years 29 mil (just over 7 mil per), which equates to about 6.8% of next years projected salary cap.

[tiderulz]

And then one or both will have a big game and the opinions will change again. This board literally only has a one game memory. I remember atleast two or three dramatic swings back and forth this season for each player. But on the whole, i think both players have had strong seasons and earnt their contracts.

i view it different but willing to hear why. DJ just raised his FG% to 40% last game and is shooting 37% from 3, and cant defend anyone. Would like to hear why you think he has earned his contract?

For starters, 37% from 3pt range is very good. And the eye test also tells me that he is a good long range shooter. What i like about him is he can space the floor which is something Elf struggles to do, so they balance each other out in that sense. He reminds me of Jameer in his later Orlando years, in that he can hit some big buckets in late game situations at times, is strong from 3, and can create off the dribble. Defense is obviously his shortcoming, but i can live with that. Overall i see him as a very solid piece to have at 4 years 29 mil (just over 7 mil per), which equates to about 6.8% of next years projected salary cap.

37% is 64th in 3, 14th for PG's, so that is average, not good. and your "eye test" may say that, but facts do not. i agree he spreads the court more than Elf does, that doesnt mean he is good at it.

[shadrock]

i view it different but willing to hear why. DJ just raised his FG% to 40% last game and is shooting 37% from 3, and cant defend anyone. Would like to hear why you think he has earned his contract?

For starters, 37% from 3pt range is very good. And the eye test also tells me that he is a good long range shooter. What i like about him is he can space the floor which is something Elf struggles to do, so they balance each other out in that sense. He reminds me of Jameer in his later Orlando years, in that he can hit some big buckets in late game situations at times, is strong from 3, and can create off the dribble. Defense is obviously his shortcoming, but i can live with that. Overall i see him as a very solid piece to have at 4 years 29 mil (just over 7 mil per), which equates to about 6.8% of next years projected salary cap.

37% is 64th in 3, 14th for PG's, so that is average, not good. and your "eye test" may say that, but facts do not. i agree he spreads the court more than Elf does, that doesnt mean he is good at it.

League average for 3 is 35%. Ill take 37% every day of the week. I guess we just agree to disagree on this.

[tiderulz]

For starters, 37% from 3pt range is very good. And the eye test also tells me that he is a good long range shooter. What i like about him is he can space the floor which is something Elf struggles to do, so they balance each other out in that sense. He reminds me of Jameer in his later Orlando years, in that he can hit some big buckets in late game situations at times, is strong from 3, and can create off the dribble. Defense is obviously his shortcoming, but i can live with that. Overall i see him as a very solid piece to have at 4 years 29 mil (just over 7 mil per), which equates to about 6.8% of next years projected salary cap.

37% is 64th in 3, 14th for PG's, so that is average, not good. and your "eye test" may say that, but facts do not. i agree he spreads the court more than Elf does, that doesnt mean he is good at it.

League average for 3 is 35%. Ill take 37% every day of the week. I guess we just agree to disagree on this.

league average? so PG's should be compared to centers and PF's that can barely make 3 ptrs?

[shadrock]

37% is 64th in 3, 14th for PG's, so that is average, not good. and your "eye test" may say that, but facts do not. i agree he spreads the court more than Elf does, that doesnt mean he is good at it.

League average for 3 is 35%. Ill take 37% every day of the week. I guess we just agree to disagree on this.

league average? so PG's should be compared to centers and PF's that can barely make 3 ptrs?

Well actually Centers shoot a higher percentage from three than any other position in the league.

[BudLightTwerk]

I think DJ is a decent back up but even so he is not much different than say the best PG in the D League which is a guy you can pick up much cheaper with no guaranteed long term deal (Pelicans already did that with Tim Frazier).