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Post#241 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:20 am

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Paradise wrote:Can't win without their offense either. So who's fault is it really? The coach or the two idiots who haven't realized it's THEM holding us back?

First people got mad he started too many non shooters. Now he's got our two best shooters on the floor to help our scoring and that hasn't worked.



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Exactly. KA isn't the best coach in the league but the roster has major flaws. There's not much he can do.

RHJ's offense is bad and his defense isn't as impactful as it was last year. RHJ and Bogs are horrible defenders but they can at least make 3s to try to help us get back in the game.

If we were up by a few points and we want to maintain the lead, then yes put in RHJ. But when you're trying to play catch up, put in your offensive players and pray that the other team misses.

So RHJ had 11 points on 3/5 shooting in just 14 minutes, but Kenny couldn't possibly have put him back in because him offense sucks? This game and last he's had 27 points in 43 minutes with 50% shooting. His offense over the season hasn't been great but if he's playing well and being efficient, why run with our 2 seives? You said we needed shooting to catch up, i'd say we need stops even more. If you're down 8, how are you gonna catch anyone if they score everytime down the floor? Really poor game from Bogs, Skill and Kenny imo.

It looks like Kenny is strictly developing RHJ as the small ball 4 off the bench right now. Perhaps to simplify things for him? We've got too many wings as well.
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Post#242 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:20 am

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Normally that would be okay, but they weren't getting it on the whole game, unfortunately

And had Kenny did that and we still didn't score then the narrative would be him not using two good offensive options for Rondae is what made us lose.

You come off a players only meeting to get embarrassed at home screams a roster issue. Not a coaching issue.

The Jazz suckered us into a half court game and we lost. That simple. The problem would've been avoided had our guards did more out there.

If Brook Lopez has his hands full with Gobert then I would personally come out aggressive as hell and looking to go at Heyward who isn't any more athletic than Bogdanovic or Kilpatrick but since both of those guys are more content with being in the league than being a great player then nights like tonight will happen until we move on from these guys.




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Lopez was abysmal tonight overall. His defense versus Utah's half court plays was horrible. I brought up the fact that at the end of the first half, Kenny substituted RHJ for Lopez so that the Nets could have a better defensive line up with Booker/RHJ/Whitehead so that they could switch on PnRs.

Tonight imo was enough for me to see how lazy and poorly he was defensively versus the 1-5 and 3-5 PnR that i really wouldn't care if we try to bait someone into trading for him as long as we don't take bad salary back. we need an athletic, defensive/rebounding/finish big that can switch on pick and rolls. Way too many times i'm seeing Whitehead get rocked on PnRs and having to fight through screens to get back to the ball handler because Lopez is standing there with his feet glued to the ground. and his offensive output was so bad that it didn't justify anything tonight.

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Post#243 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:21 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:Oh well, the Jazz are a good team. No shame losing.

Some growing pain. Big positive is iHead. He is officially our perimeter stopper now, guarding Hayward down the stretch, too bad they set screens and we had to switch most of the times. He is probably the most physical player on the team (Booker is IMO more finesse and energy). He dominated for a stretch, but as a rookie, he almost came through in crunch time, just that the shots didn't go down. He will be good.

Booker was simply amazing, doing everything, rebounding, blocking shots, making threes, spinning, bring the ball up, making jump hooks etc. He just has to be more consistent.

RHJ seems to be settling into the small ball four role. It's working quite well. He's giving up some size and rebounding but he's quicker than any fours, can always take them off the dribble, gets fouled and try a circus shot. He just needs to get his shot going.

Dinwiddie showed some good stuff, went to the basket, making shots and got some good assists.

Bogs and SKil are just temporary starters, it should definitely gonna get better. (fingers crossed) Before LV's ready, I think a Lin/iHead starting backcourt wouldn't be bad. Hopefully RHJ can start at the 3, otherwise JHar would be OK. D would be much better.


great post as usual. i too would like to see us play a line up with Lin and Whitehead in the backcourt. The defense would be tight. problem is, the 1-5 PnR will kill us because of Lopez
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Post#244 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:23 am

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Normally that would be okay, but they weren't getting it on the whole game, unfortunately

And had Kenny did that and we still didn't score then the narrative would be him not using two good offensive options for Rondae is what made us lose.

You come off a players only meeting to get embarrassed at home screams a roster issue. Not a coaching issue.

The Jazz suckered us into a half court game and we lost. That simple. The problem would've been avoided had our guards did more out there.

If Brook Lopez has his hands full with Gobert then I would personally come out aggressive as hell and looking to go at Heyward who isn't any more athletic than Bogdanovic or Kilpatrick but since both of those guys are more content with being in the league than being a great player then nights like tonight will happen until we move on from these guys.




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Lopez was abysmal tonight overall. His defense versus Utah's half court plays was horrible. I brought up the fact that at the end of the first half, Kenny substituted RHJ for Lopez so that the Nets could have a better defensive line up with Booker/RHJ/Whitehead so that they could switch on PnRs.

Tonight imo was enough for me to see how lazy and poorly he was defensively versus the 1-5 and 3-5 PnR that i really wouldn't care if we try to bait someone into trading for him as long as we don't take bad salary back. we need an athletic, defensive/rebounding/finish big that can switch on pick and rolls. Way too many times i'm seeing Whitehead get rocked on PnRs and having to fight through screens to get back to the ball handler because Lopez is standing there with his feet glued to the ground. and his offensive output was so bad that it didn't justify anything tonight.

Brook got outclassed tonight. No doubt about that. I hated the way he defended the guards off the PnR. I don't recall him ever closing out on Mack or Neto every time they switched on him. I think we all know moving on from Brook is imminent at this point. It's just difficult to pinpoint any realistic deals that benefits us and someone else.






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Post#245 » by Claud » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:25 am

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Paradise wrote:And had Kenny did that and we still didn't score then the narrative would be him not using two good offensive options for Rondae is what made us lose.

You come off a players only meeting to get embarrassed at home screams a roster issue. Not a coaching issue.

The Jazz suckered us into a half court game and we lost. That simple. The problem would've been avoided had our guards did more out there.

If Brook Lopez has his hands full with Gobert then I would personally come out aggressive as hell and looking to go at Heyward who isn't any more athletic than Bogdanovic or Kilpatrick but since both of those guys are more content with being in the league than being a great player then nights like tonight will happen until we move on from these guys.




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Lopez was abysmal tonight overall. His defense versus Utah's half court plays was horrible. I brought up the fact that at the end of the first half, Kenny substituted RHJ for Lopez so that the Nets could have a better defensive line up with Booker/RHJ/Whitehead so that they could switch on PnRs.

Tonight imo was enough for me to see how lazy and poorly he was defensively versus the 1-5 and 3-5 PnR that i really wouldn't care if we try to bait someone into trading for him as long as we don't take bad salary back. we need an athletic, defensive/rebounding/finish big that can switch on pick and rolls. Way too many times i'm seeing Whitehead get rocked on PnRs and having to fight through screens to get back to the ball handler because Lopez is standing there with his feet glued to the ground. and his offensive output was so bad that it didn't justify anything tonight.

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If Lopez isn't scoring then he's a negative on the court. His PnR D is abysmal as is his defensive IQ/Consistency. Tonight was one of those nights. B tier talent.
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Post#246 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:25 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:And had Kenny did that and we still didn't score then the narrative would be him not using two good offensive options for Rondae is what made us lose.

You come off a players only meeting to get embarrassed at home screams a roster issue. Not a coaching issue.

The Jazz suckered us into a half court game and we lost. That simple. The problem would've been avoided had our guards did more out there.

If Brook Lopez has his hands full with Gobert then I would personally come out aggressive as hell and looking to go at Heyward who isn't any more athletic than Bogdanovic or Kilpatrick but since both of those guys are more content with being in the league than being a great player then nights like tonight will happen until we move on from these guys.




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Lopez was abysmal tonight overall. His defense versus Utah's half court plays was horrible. I brought up the fact that at the end of the first half, Kenny substituted RHJ for Lopez so that the Nets could have a better defensive line up with Booker/RHJ/Whitehead so that they could switch on PnRs.

Tonight imo was enough for me to see how lazy and poorly he was defensively versus the 1-5 and 3-5 PnR that i really wouldn't care if we try to bait someone into trading for him as long as we don't take bad salary back. we need an athletic, defensive/rebounding/finish big that can switch on pick and rolls. Way too many times i'm seeing Whitehead get rocked on PnRs and having to fight through screens to get back to the ball handler because Lopez is standing there with his feet glued to the ground. and his offensive output was so bad that it didn't justify anything tonight.

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Post#247 » by Curns13 » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:26 am

Claud wrote:It's the same story time and time again.

You CANNOT have Bojan/SK/Lopez on at the same time because there is NO DEFENSE AND NO REBOUNDS. How many times this season do we have to get BURNED by our starting wings’ OLE defense and NO effort? It gets worse when you put in Lopez, a slow footed/poor rebounder as part of the equation.Sure we can score 100pts with this lineup but we will give up 120. Makes zero sense. KA is losing me. Definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
KA once AGAIN puts Bojan on the other team’s best wing(Hayward)… WTH?>
RHJ had a solid half but didn’t get a chance in the 2nd? why? SK and Bojan are scrubs. best case scenario 6th/7th player off the bench. Thought this season was about development?
Gobert DESTROYED Brook. I love Brook but I HATE those games where he’s just hanging at the 3pt line forcing shots while playing zero defense.
And what is up with that garbage lineup that KA starts the 4th quarters with every single game? SMH.

That's what kills me. You know exactly what Bogs and Skill finishing matches is gonna get you. Loss after loss after loss. I can't wait till the time we have moved Skill to the bench and Bogs to a contender needing some bench shooting. They have no place finishing games for anybody.
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Post#248 » by Claud » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:27 am

Legit I'm ready to ship out Lopez/Bogs for picks/young players. We aren't winning any time soon and Lopez can be a solid piece for a playoffs team needing a scoring big with size. Bogs is a shooter and coming off the bench can help out too. Blow it up.
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Post#249 » by Curns13 » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:29 am

Kenny should have played with Booker at the 5 more and RHJ at the 4. Lopez is almost always hopeless against good one on one defenders in the post. Gobert isn't going to beat Booker down in the post so why not get some more athleticism and agility on the court?
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Post#250 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:30 am

I'm at this point, ready to sacrifice the rest of the season offensively if we can get a young big with some defensive chops and a late 1st for Lopez.

I would trade Lopez to Houston right now for Clint Capela, expiring trash, and Houston's #1.
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Post#251 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:32 am

qiantom wrote:I don't' care if they win or lose this game. I have an issue hearing the emphasis on defense all the time and not seeing it executed in games.


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This is the thing that needs to be brought home.

The Nets spent 80% of training camp focusing on defense....80%!

Yet despite spending the overwhelming majority of time focusing on it, they have the worst defense in the league.

Plenty of teams have been alright with bad wing defense because they've usually had a center who was a defensive anchor. But on this team, Lopez is routintely called out in 1/5, 2/5, and 3/5 PnRs because they know he's not coming out to guard them.

So after a wing beats Skil or Bogs, you at least hope that the center can hedge a little so Bogs, Kilpatrick and others can catch up to their man. Instead their man goes around the screen and they have a good 5-6 feet of free space in front of them to either shoot, attack the basket, or drive and kick.

Thibs renowned ICE defense was predicated on forcing ball handlers to the sidelines and baseline because 1) the OOB lines serve as an extra defender and 2) the most advantageous spot for a ballhandler to be is in the middle of the key, from where he can make a short pass to any spot on the court or take a straight jumper.

We're coulpling terrible wing defense with not existent PnR help. That's a recipe for utter disaster.

While Brook is great on the offensive end, I wish there was someway that we can measure how Brook's lack of footspeed enables us to give up so many easy shots off of PnRs/PnPs or when we collapse to help out Brook and leave guys open for wide open shots.
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Post#252 » by qiantom » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:32 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I'm at this point, ready to sacrifice the rest of the season offensively if we can get a young big with some defensive chops and a late 1st for Lopez.

I would trade Lopez to Houston right now for Clint Capela, expiring trash, and Houston's #1.


I don't think Houston needs more offense.


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Post#253 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:35 am

****, the only deal that works is Capela/Anderson for Lopez/Bojan.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jut4ddr

i doubt Houston bites on that.
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Post#254 » by Roy Tarpley » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:37 am

It's gotta be demoralizing to lose right after a players only meeting. No matter what Marks says or how distant Prokhorov is, KA has to be feeling some heat with the worst record into the NBA. Not from a job security standpoint, but as a matter of pride.
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Post#255 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:39 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm at this point, ready to sacrifice the rest of the season offensively if we can get a young big with some defensive chops and a late 1st for Lopez.

I would trade Lopez to Houston right now for Clint Capela, expiring trash, and Houston's #1.


I don't think Houston needs more offense.


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Nah, that's nowhere near enough. I think you're letting the rage get to your trading skills. :lol:

If the Nets found a way to give up Bogs and Lopez while returning Noel and someone like Avery Bradley (I know Boston would never do it) I'd cry tears of joy.

What's more realistic is Noel, Wilson Chandler, and some other 10ppg scorer. I'd actually pull the trigger on that.
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Post#256 » by Ror1997 » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:40 am

MrDollarBills wrote:****, the only deal that works is Capela/Anderson for Lopez/Bojan.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jut4ddr

i doubt Houston bites on that.


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Post#257 » by bws94 » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:47 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Paradise wrote:
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Normally that would be okay, but they weren't getting it on the whole game, unfortunately

And had Kenny did that and we still didn't score then the narrative would be him not using two good offensive options for Rondae is what made us lose.

You come off a players only meeting to get embarrassed at home screams a roster issue. Not a coaching issue.

The Jazz suckered us into a half court game and we lost. That simple. The problem would've been avoided had our guards did more out there.

If Brook Lopez has his hands full with Gobert then I would personally come out aggressive as hell and looking to go at Heyward who isn't any more athletic than Bogdanovic or Kilpatrick but since both of those guys are more content with being in the league than being a great player then nights like tonight will happen until we move on from these guys.




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Lopez was abysmal tonight overall. His defense versus Utah's half court plays was horrible. I brought up the fact that at the end of the first half, Kenny substituted RHJ for Lopez so that the Nets could have a better defensive line up with Booker/RHJ/Whitehead so that they could switch on PnRs.

Tonight imo was enough for me to see how lazy and poorly he was defensively versus the 1-5 and 3-5 PnR that i really wouldn't care if we try to bait someone into trading for him as long as we don't take bad salary back. we need an athletic, defensive/rebounding/finish big that can switch on pick and rolls. Way too many times i'm seeing Whitehead get rocked on PnRs and having to fight through screens to get back to the ball handler because Lopez is standing there with his feet glued to the ground. and his offensive output was so bad that it didn't justify anything tonight.


I really thought Lopez was going to step up tonight because he started hot. But he was beyond terrible in the 4Q when we need him to step up. A nice block here and there but mostly, he looked beat on both ends.

Whitehead played hard on D, but he needs some help in the PnRs. You're right. Lopez has to step up.
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Post#258 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:50 am

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Lopez was abysmal tonight overall. His defense versus Utah's half court plays was horrible. I brought up the fact that at the end of the first half, Kenny substituted RHJ for Lopez so that the Nets could have a better defensive line up with Booker/RHJ/Whitehead so that they could switch on PnRs.

Tonight imo was enough for me to see how lazy and poorly he was defensively versus the 1-5 and 3-5 PnR that i really wouldn't care if we try to bait someone into trading for him as long as we don't take bad salary back. we need an athletic, defensive/rebounding/finish big that can switch on pick and rolls. Way too many times i'm seeing Whitehead get rocked on PnRs and having to fight through screens to get back to the ball handler because Lopez is standing there with his feet glued to the ground. and his offensive output was so bad that it didn't justify anything tonight.

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If Lopez isn't scoring then he's a negative on the court. His PnR D is abysmal as is his defensive IQ/Consistency. Tonight was one of those nights. B tier talent.

And that's always been the thing that has drove us mad about Lopez.

The guy has a lot of moments where scores in bunches and looks unstoppable. And then he inexplicably goes quiet for 8-10 minutes at a time. But that's 8-10 minutes of little offense and the potential for the opposition to really abuse any set that targets Lopez.

For years people have blamed our players at 1-3 for not giving Lopez the ball most of the time. The fact is that Lopez will be aggressive for a bit and then just disappear. I legit wonder if he realizes how much of a liability he is in the pick and roll coverage and that he needs to make up for it in other facets of the game.


Marks said that he recognizes how much of a problem our defense is and that it will be addressed. I wonder who he esteems to be the culprit. If it's Brook, does he try to move him this season?
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Post#259 » by Paradise » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:53 am

NyCeEvO wrote:This wasn't an embarrassing loss. The Jazz are a good team. We were hanging around by 4 points until the last 6 minutes of the game and then it up and down between 11 and 6.

We're also missing the igniter for our offense and the 2nd best player on the team.

It was, IMO.

Yes, Utah is a very good team and every possession down the floor you thought we were competing against Philly from the sense of urgency being shown out there. Guys are walking the ball up with 5 minutes left. Some standing and watching. No cutting. Just throw the ball to Brook Lopez and walk away. Meanwhile, he's looking to pass out the post and nobody is there and the offense then goes to hell. Yes, Lin would've helped a lot but we've won games without him and with a lot more poise and IQ plays.


If Brook Lopez is tied up with Gobert, you think Bogs or Skilpatrick can come out and do what Jimmy Butler did to us?

No, of course not that level of production. I expect either one taking an assertive role when the offense gets stagnant to make plays. We were in the penalty with 8 minutes to go in the third and Bogdanovic finishes the game with...0 attempts at the line and 0 makes.


Heyward isn't more athletic than Bogs or Kilpatrick? C'mon...there's no comparison especially if we're including Hayward's agility in the evaluation of athleticism.

That's not my point. You aren't guarding LeBron, Durant, Leonard. Hayward isn't physically imposing. He's crafty and his IQ is extremely high. Most of his shots are off screens. He's not going to dominate his man one on one. You get outclassed on both ends like that then that speaks a lot more about you IQ and lack of effort to compete.

I think a lot of you guys really need to understand that it's not easy to be an NBA player. Do you honestly think that Skilpatrick and Bogs are fully capable of being lights out but it's simply due to a lack of discipline or too much goofing around that they don't succeed? High BBIQ is a real skill and it's possessed by a minority of players.

Oh, I understand. That's why I am not calling for Kenny's head. He's working with what he was given and it's just not enough high IQ guys here. Not to say, he's doing his absolute best either but he's trying to train new dogs and old dogs new tricks.

This goes back to the theory of some fans thinking KA should adjust his system. This system of freedom just exposes that some of these guys are just not capable of fast paced motion offense.

We APPEARED to defend better because Utah plays at a slow pace. We simply took less shots because we allowed them to dictate pace.

It's easy for us to sit back in the comfort of our homes and talk about how dumb these guys are for not excelling at the professional level against the best players in the world. Yes, compared to LeBron they are not good. Compared to us, they're uber-elite. Let's not diminish how good you have to be in order to do what Kilpatrick does, bad defense and all.

The high expectations some of us have for the least talented team in the league missing their 2nd best player is head scratching sometimes.

I agree on the expectations but there would be hardly any complaining if we saw some internal growth from some of these guys on other parts of the floor.

I don't think anyone will question how good Skil is on the offensive side of the ball. I'm still glad we have him and have him locked up. However, some of his mistakes are indefensible.

At some point, he's going to have to learn to become a real playmaker and defender if he wants to continue to carve out a major role on this team. I don't think we expect that to happen overnight but some nights like tonight. You can't be mad at folks for tearing him apart. Some of his mistakes are elementary.


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Post#260 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 3, 2017 3:55 am

Curns13 wrote:
Claud wrote:It's the same story time and time again.

You CANNOT have Bojan/SK/Lopez on at the same time because there is NO DEFENSE AND NO REBOUNDS. How many times this season do we have to get BURNED by our starting wings’ OLE defense and NO effort? It gets worse when you put in Lopez, a slow footed/poor rebounder as part of the equation.Sure we can score 100pts with this lineup but we will give up 120. Makes zero sense. KA is losing me. Definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
KA once AGAIN puts Bojan on the other team’s best wing(Hayward)… WTH?>
RHJ had a solid half but didn’t get a chance in the 2nd? why? SK and Bojan are scrubs. best case scenario 6th/7th player off the bench. Thought this season was about development?
Gobert DESTROYED Brook. I love Brook but I HATE those games where he’s just hanging at the 3pt line forcing shots while playing zero defense.
And what is up with that garbage lineup that KA starts the 4th quarters with every single game? SMH.

That's what kills me. You know exactly what Bogs and Skill finishing matches is gonna get you. Loss after loss after loss. I can't wait till the time we have moved Skill to the bench and Bogs to a contender needing some bench shooting. They have no place finishing games for anybody.

Marks bought out JJ last year which opened up playing time for Kilpatrick, who ended up proving that he's capable of being a rotation player.

I really hope Bogs is traded so that Levert and even Dinwiddie get a lot more time to develop.

Turn Bogs into Noel would be icing on the cake as we'd get more PT for our young guys and a defensive big who can really do anchor us.

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