Magic PG: So Let Me Get This Straight...

iAdoreeKnicks · Post #281 » by **iAdoreeKnicks** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:08 am

Wow. Knicks might not ever sniff .500 again this season.. Gotta stop letting this **** team affect my mood so much.

drekwins · Post #282 » by **drekwins** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:09 am

AmazingJason wrote:
drekwins wrote:We need wings that can defend, put the ball of the floor, slash and create for others. I've never suggested for Gallo to return, like others have, but it's not a terrible idea to give Denver a call on Chandler and Gallinari. We would definitely not be worse off with them in place of Melo. I truly think we could win a lot of games with Tyson Chandler, Gall or Chandler and a guy like Barbosa. I have no idea how we get all of them. However, I'd like to figure out a way to get rid of Melo and Lance with those type of players in return.

LOL @ calling Denver on Chandler and Gallo to replace Melo.

That would certainly give a special meaning to the idiom: "coming full circle."

I never said to trade him back. There are creative ways to structure deals. 3 team trades? 4 team trades? Trading KOQ and Lance for one of them, then shipping Melo elsewhere. There's ways. However, I'd rather have one of them over Rudy Gay. Not many good players are available.

AmazingJason · Post #283 » by **AmazingJason** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:10 am

drekwins wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
drekwins wrote:We need wings that can defend, put the ball of the floor, slash and create for others. I've never suggested for Gallo to return, like others have, but it's not a terrible idea to give Denver a call on Chandler and Gallinari. We would definitely not be worse off with them in place of Melo. I truly think we could win a lot of games with Tyson Chandler, Gall or Chandler and a guy like Barbosa. I have no idea how we get all of them. However, I'd like to figure out a way to get rid of Melo and Lance with those type of players in return.

LOL @ calling Denver on Chandler and Gallo to replace Melo.

That would certainly give a special meaning to the idiom: "coming full circle."

I never said to trade him back. There are creative ways to structure deals. 3 team trades? 4 team trades? Trading KOQ and Lance for one of them, then shipping Melo elsewhere. There's ways. However, I'd rather have one of them over Rudy Gay. Not many good players are available.

Even so, it'd still be hilarious

RiseOfTheEmpire · Post #284 » by **RiseOfTheEmpire** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:13 am

Melo has been a loyal, ride or die type of guy during his Knick career. IMO he believes retiring a Knick with the accolades he has already received should put him on some kind of totem, leaving will tarnish that. I don't think he will get it, even the boos and criticism, he takes it really well because he believes it comes with the territory of playing in NYC.

It will be his wife that will have to get him to realize he is no longer getting the tough love New York is known to give, it is turning into full on hate, it will make walking on the street and going places tough, the heckling, the comments....they are coming. It will be up to his family to get through to him.

NOOB77 · Post #285 » by **NOOB77** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:13 am

Outside of KP and Willy you have to move anyone of value anyone. Lee KOQ anyone.

3toheadmelo · Post #286 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:15 am

damn that hornacek vid of him walking away when melo went iso was discouraging

drekwins · Post #287 » by **drekwins** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:15 am

DievsZingis wrote:Melo is a loyal, ride or die type of guy. I don't think he will get it, even the boos and criticism, he takes it really well because he believes it comes with the territory of playing in NYC.

It will be his wife that will have to get him to realize he is no longer getting the tough love New York is known to give, it is turning into full on hate, it will make walking on the street and going places tough, the heckling, the comments....they are coming. It will be up to his family to get through to him.

Idk man, it can great really ugly. NYC made Marbury leave the country. Calderon was on the verge of tears last year. When the fanbase turns, it affects the player.

Amsterdam · Post #288 » by **Amsterdam** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:16 am

CJackson wrote:
Adelheid wrote:Getting booed and heckled for the remainder of the RS and for the next 2 RS...sounds brutal I would say. Cant imagine one guy still wanting to stay in a place where he is not wanted.

Yes, Melo's inner circle has to see the writing on the wall. I think Melo may be a little slow on the uptake so he won't believe it will happen until it is too late. So his confidantes and advisors will tell him it is time to move on. Whether he will listen is another matter.

but it is coming. What I've said is mild compared to what Melo will feel when 5,000 people are going boo at the same time. He won't handle it well. Better that he departs before it happens, because you can count on it happening if he stays.

Yep, wow. It's going to be sad to see though.
But New York fans can be brutal regardless who it is.

Sht, Yankee fans have booed Mariano and Jeter, when they have under performed for stretches.

3toheadmelo · Post #289 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:17 am

ive barely watched the Knicks past couple of games. if we suck we got our pick for all I care. fking scrubs playing with no heart

Red Vines · Post #290 » by **Red Vines** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:17 am

You can see the mood of the team is bad and nobody is talking because it has to do with Melo...everyone is hinting to him "we need to share the ball" "we need to play harder on defense" etc. You can see the frustration on the team.

AmazingJason · Post #291 » by **AmazingJason** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:17 am

3toheadmelo wrote:damn that hornacek vid of him walking away when melo went iso was discouraging

Translation: "I give up."

And it's only 34 games in.

spree8 · Post #292 » by **spree8** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:18 am

It's bitter sweet for me because after fighting for so long with people here about how we should tank, I accepted we weren't and actually believed we could be ECF/Finals contenders this year...sucks, but I was right all along.

Melo is one stubborn SOB tho...the only way he requests a trade is if we continue to lose, and the fans get on him hard during home games.

It's up to us to run him outta town...don't let up on the booing every single home game when he touches the ball. Even start "trade Carmelo" chants.. It's the only way.

nedleeds · Post #293 » by **nedleeds** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:18 am

Jay10 wrote:if you want a good laugh, take a look at carmelo's lateral movement when he has to defend.

Solomon Hill scored 8 points in 30 seconds against parking cone Melo to put the Pels game away after the bench had made it a game. He gives zero ****.

drekwins · Post #294 » by **drekwins** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:19 am

Amsterdam wrote:
CJackson wrote:
Adelheid wrote:Getting booed and heckled for the remainder of the RS and for the next 2 RS...sounds brutal I would say. Cant imagine one guy still wanting to stay in a place where he is not wanted.

Yes, Melo's inner circle has to see the writing on the wall. I think Melo may be a little slow on the uptake so he won't believe it will happen until it is too late. So his confidantes and advisors will tell him it is time to move on. Whether he will listen is another matter.

but it is coming. What I've said is mild compared to what Melo will feel when 5,000 people are going boo at the same time. He won't handle it well. Better that he departs before it happens, because you can count on it happening if he stays.

Yep, wow. It's going to be sad to see though.
But New York fans can be brutal regardless who it is.

Sht, Yankee fans have booed Mariano and Jeter, when they have under performed for stretches.

Exactly. Ewing got a lot of hate, ARod got crushed, Isiah tried to commit suicide, Marbury's career imploded and he left the country and Calderon looked like he was being tortured by the end of last season.

3toheadmelo · Post #295 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:21 am

AmazingJason wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:damn that hornacek vid of him walking away when melo went iso was discouraging

Translation: "I give up."

And it's only 34 games in.

im shocked the team collapsed this early. everyone plays with IDGAF attitude

AmazingJason · Post #296 » by **AmazingJason** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:21 am

spree8 wrote:It's bitter sweet for me because after fighting for so long with people here about how we should tank, I accepted we weren't and actually believed we could be ECF/Finals contenders this year...sucks, but I was right all along.

Melo is one stubborn SOB tho...the only way he requests a trade is if we continue to lose, and the fans get on him hard during home games.

It's up to us to run him outta town...don't let up on the booing every single home game when he touches the ball. Even start "trade Carmelo" chants.. It's the only way.

I bought into the hype too. Rose's superteam confidence, Lee's 50 wins prediction, Jennings talking wise, Phil talking about these veterans were going to "activate" the team, Noah the "caged animal" :lol:

The only thing being activated are these guys' AARP memberships :eek2:

BBALLER4FR · Post #297 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:22 am

3toheadmelo wrote:damn that hornacek vid of him walking away when melo went iso was discouraging

Can you post it please?

xNewYorkMadex · Post #298 » by **xNewYorkMadex** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:23 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:damn that hornacek vid of him walking away when melo went iso was discouraging

Can you post it please?

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SuperflyKnick · Post #299 » by **SuperflyKnick** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:23 am

NYKfan77 wrote:
SuperflyKnick wrote:If only we kept that dam package and shipped it for chris Paul instead of melo

Yup because CP3 is a big time winner in this league. Shipping the players we did for Melo wasn't the problems all the moves after were.

Didn't it all start from emptying house for melo to begin with

RHODEY · Post #300 » by **RHODEY** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 4:23 am

spree8 wrote:It's bitter sweet for me because after fighting for so long with people here about how we should tank, I accepted we weren't and actually believed we could be ECF/Finals contenders this year...sucks, but I was right all along.

Melo is one stubborn SOB tho...the only way he requests a trade is if we continue to lose, and the fans get on him hard during home games.

It's up to us to run him outta town...don't let up on the booing every single home game when he touches the ball. Even start "trade Carmelo" chants.. It's the only way.

Yeah that's a great way to attract future FA's....