Magic PG: So Let Me Get This Straight...

KnickFan33 · Post #641 » by **KnickFan33** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:02 pm

Besart19 wrote:I can easily see Melo at LAC... For way deal with Memphis and Wolves... Melo, Noah and LT out

Deandre
Carmelo
T.Allen
Reddick
C.Paul

But what would we get in return?

mrcalzone · Post #642 » by **mrcalzone** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:06 pm

These overly optimstic Knick homers on twitter are unbearable and unreadable. **** like "MELO IS THE GOAT!" "Super team!" "Why ya'll mad at the Knicks, why are u guys being haters!"

Yankeeknickfan · Post #643 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:08 pm

This sh*t is embarrassing

Post #644 » by **dakomish23** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:16 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:You don't have to blame the failures in the last few years on Melo as a predicate to thinking him being traded is best for the franchise. I love Melo and think he could play well in a system where he is a power forward (he should play pf here) and would personally like to see him on the Clippers. That said, the league is tilted so heavily toward Cleveland and Golden State and that will not wane for another 2-3 years. Further, we have one of the top three prospects in the Nba. The smart move is to spend those 2-3 years drafting high and developing good role players. That is the reason i wouldnt mind a Melo deal, not because he is some cancer.

Same here. I thought there was a window we could do something. I'm not sure that there isn't, but the moves they made make zero sense with the personnel we have. And we let those moves dictate everything for us, from rotations to style of play. Mix in Melo being as inconsistent as he's ever been, the smarter the move to tank looks.

I'll give this current iteration through January. Let's see how they come out. If it's more of the same, then tank it up. If we're tanking, see what Melo wants to do.

BeagleBoss · Post #645 » by **BeagleBoss** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:29 pm

Melo doesn't respect Hornecek. It's so obvious. He breaks plays and doesn't play hard on D. I don't get why Hornecek doesn't just bench him.

Post #646 » by **King of Canada** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:33 pm

We're a run away from being a decent looking team again, but we don't seem to be able to do anything the same way two games in a row on both ends of the floor. We look worse without Rose, but when we have Rose on the floor we don't have any ball movement. The same kind of goes for Melo too. It doubles our problem. If you took Rose out and added a really good pg I'm sure we'd be well above .500, but as it is now we tend to get a lot of unassisted buckets or rushed jumpers.

F N 11 · Post #647 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:34 pm

Kampuchea wrote:Not giving up on Melo after everything he has done for the Knicks. Let's get back on track, starting with the Bux.

lol couldnt get back on track against worst teams. Stop

F N 11 · Post #648 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:36 pm

Sark wrote:Pelicans, Sixers, Suns, and Mavs are the only "easy" wins left in January. Everything else is gonna be a tough game.

No such thing for Knicks. Easy win my a**

Red Vines · Post #649 » by **Red Vines** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:38 pm

Benching Melo is a last resort and it would be front page sports news and cause a ton of drama. The real issue is Melo isn't the player he used to be and athletically challenged, just trade him instead of punishing him. He'll waive his NTC or he can accept a different role.

thebuzzardman · Post #650 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:38 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:Melo doesn't respect Hornecek. It's so obvious. He breaks plays and doesn't play hard on D. I don't get why Hornecek doesn't just bench him.

What coach has Melo liked?

I think Interim Woodson and .5 a season of real head coach Woodson. Then he ran him out of town (rightly)

D'Antoni - nope
Hornacek - apparently not
Fisher - no, but understandable
Rambis - nope, but he sucked
Woodson - briefly, then no

Am I missing someone?

thebuzzardman · Post #651 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:39 pm

Melo is going to be on the downside Iverson. A guy whose ego doesn't let him realize it's time to do things differently. He's not coming off the bench anywhere, for anyone. He'll just decline and take a team down with him.

F N 11 · Post #652 » by **F N 11** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:39 pm

Greenie wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Greenie wrote:Time to move from one "godforsaken" era to the next.
We ain't never winning sh*t and this fanbase doesn't deserve to win a damn thing.

Mofo's fix their fuqing lips to speak on a players contract and tell a player they need to take less money to play for this team then turn their ass around and want the player gone on the first thing smoking. It's old and needs to stop.

Nah. The second we trade Melo suddenly everyone will start playing well. All of sudden Noah will make layups and DRose will be come a pass first PG. Jennings won't be a dumpster fire on PnR defense and LFT will start actually being a 3&D guy instead of doing his Kobe impression. All of sudden Jeff will realize Holiday is a perfect fit and start him and Sasha will be waived.

All this will happen the second Melo is gone. What an ass hole holding this team back all these years.

He was holding this team back when he lived in Baltimore....
Ewing didn't win a ring because of Melo!!!
Marbury went crazy because of Melo
Melo fuqed up H2O's knees.
Melo made us trade for Curry!!!!

You seriously don't think Melo is the main problem? If not I don't know what you're watching. When the guy gettting paid the most loses his guy all the damn time on defense then hogs the ball on offense, how do you think guys will react ?

KnickFan33 · Post #653 » by **KnickFan33** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:45 pm

K P 6 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Nah. The second we trade Melo suddenly everyone will start playing well. All of sudden Noah will make layups and DRose will be come a pass first PG. Jennings won't be a dumpster fire on PnR defense and LFT will start actually being a 3&D guy instead of doing his Kobe impression. All of sudden Jeff will realize Holiday is a perfect fit and start him and Sasha will be waived.

All this will happen the second Melo is gone. What an ass hole holding this team back all these years.

He was holding this team back when he lived in Baltimore....
Ewing didn't win a ring because of Melo!!!
Marbury went crazy because of Melo
Melo fuqed up H2O's knees.
Melo made us trade for Curry!!!!

You seriously don't think Melo is the main problem? If not I don't know what you're watching. When the guy gettting paid the most loses his guy all the damn time on defense then hogs the ball on offense, how do you think guys will react ?

Main problem might be an overstatement. Major problem might be more accurate.

Post #654 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:46 pm

Phil's next book is going to be interesting

god shammgod · Post #655 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 1:56 pm

this one was to hard to watch. felt myself wanting to turn it off all game. and blame melo if you will, he aint helping much, but it aint just him by any means. this team is uninterested in defense. all of them. and when a team is this uninterested in defense, it's the coaches fault. a coach who frankly nobody else wanted. nobody but the tepee master himself. you want to break up the knicks, tell melo we're rebuilding. cool. i'm with it. it's time. but the dumb f*ck who puts this garbage together every year has to go first. everyone likes to ignore how this happens. who's fingers are all over this. hoodwinked for real.

EchelonNYK · Post #656 » by **EchelonNYK** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 2:04 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:Melo doesn't respect Hornecek. It's so obvious. He breaks plays and doesn't play hard on D. I don't get why Hornecek doesn't just bench him.

It probably goes both ways.

Yankeeknickfan · Post #657 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 2:09 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:You don't have to blame the failures in the last few years on Melo as a predicate to thinking him being traded is best for the franchise. I love Melo and think he could play well in a system where he is a power forward (he should play pf here) and would personally like to see him on the Clippers. That said, the league is tilted so heavily toward Cleveland and Golden State and that will not wane for another 2-3 years. Further, we have one of the top three prospects in the Nba. The smart move is to spend those 2-3 years drafting high and developing good role players. That is the reason i wouldnt mind a Melo deal, not because he is some cancer.

Same here. I thought there was a window we could do something. I'm not sure that there isn't, but the moves they made make zero sense with the personnel we have. And we let those moves dictate everything for us, from rotations to style of play. Mix in Melo being as inconsistent as he's ever been, the smarter the move to tank looks.

I'll give this current iteration through January. Let's see how they come out. If it's more of the same, then tank it up. If we're tanking, see what Melo wants to do.

ya, I'd give it the the next month before declaring tank. If we do tank, it's not because Melo is a b*tch, or the devil, or whatever it is that haters think that he is. Just didn't work out this yr. Melo era had some fun moments, and could've accomplished more with a smarter front office.

prophet_of_rage · Post #658 » by **prophet_of_rage** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 2:14 pm

Is it too late for Phil to get back with Jeannie?

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god shammgod · Post #659 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 2:17 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:Is it too late for Phil to get back with Jeannie?

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gonna lose his job and his woman in the same year. life comes at you quick.

Post #660 » by **dakomish23** » Tue Jan 3, 2017 2:19 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:Melo doesn't respect Hornecek. It's so obvious. He breaks plays and doesn't play hard on D. I don't get why Hornecek doesn't just bench him.

What coach has Melo liked?

I think Interim Woodson and .5 a season of real head coach Woodson. Then he ran him out of town (rightly)

D'Antoni - nope
Hornacek - apparently not
Fisher - no, but understandable
Rambis - nope, but he sucked
Woodson - briefly, then no

Am I missing someone?

Cmon. In no way shape or form did Melo run Woodson out and there are countless articles by so many outlets stating this. There are articles that say Woodson only made it through the entire 13-14 season because of Melo.

Didn't DFish get Dad Melo to come out? How is that chasing him out of town.