Markelle Fultz

[brackdan70]

Are any of ya'll concerned that Fultz team can't even beat an average team at home. i don't think the huskies will even be a 0.500 team in the pac-12 at this point. I don't think it matters much in the grand scheme, but you would like your consensus #1 to be a winner.

[Marcus]

Are any of ya'll concerned that Fultz team can't even beat an average team at home. i don't think the huskies will even be a 0.500 team in the pac-12 at this point. I don't think it matters much in the grand scheme, but you would like your consensus #1 to be a winner.

Nope. It's not like he's not doing everything he can to help them win. Body language isn't bad and the effort is still there. This level of basketball doesn't necessarily yeild to one person being able to win a game by himself game in and game out.

[smittybanton]

What's Fultz floor and what will be the reason/s Fultz doesn't succeed at the next level?

There's so much to like about his game. Length, touch, confidence. HOWEVER, it bothers me that he is so right-handed. His foot scoring move is to drive right and use the glass (beautifully I might add). Harden-esque. But his left hand is weak like dangelo Russell's right hand. Typically pulls up or passes after one dribble. His game should translate as well as Russell's. But I wonder how hell do against better and better competition. But I wouldn't expect him to be a traditional point guard. A new fangled lead guard? Maybe. Would look good next to ben Simmons.

By contrast, Dennis Smith Jr has greater traditional point guard skills, and would be the clear number one if not for his injury history, I think. DSJ is closer to being Baron Davis than Lonzo Ball is to Jkidd or Fultz is to Harden.

[smittybanton]

Let me get this straight, this is supposedly the best draft in recent memory and somehow the best prospect is barely more talented than Russell?

It doesn't look like there's a better prospect than Towns or Porzingis in this draft so what am I missing?

This is not a big man's draft. Lol. Boston, minn, phx won't find their give man here! Better trade for okafor or Noel.

Theres not even a ben simmons here.

No, what makes it special is the guards and wings. From Fultz to Tatum to Fox to even TJLeaf-- I'll say the top twelve prospects in this draft would've been vying for the number two spot last year. Give me bam adebayo or leaf at ten to fourteen over jaylenbrown at number three last year.

[Duke4life831]

Are any of ya'll concerned that Fultz team can't even beat an average team at home. i don't think the huskies will even be a 0.500 team in the pac-12 at this point. I don't think it matters much in the grand scheme, but you would like your consensus #1 to be a winner.

Nope. That team is completely devoid of talent. This is a Washington team that didn't make the tournament last year and lost its 3 best players and they only basically added Fultz.

I said it was a question mark for Simmons last year but he joined a team that made the tournament the year prior in a much tougher year. LSU lost only their two frontcourt guys and replaced them with Simmons and Victor (who was a top 50 recruit that was transfer). Plus they added another 5 star wing in Blakeney. So that LSU team had more talent than the one that made the tournament the year prior and with Simmons they weren't even close to making it. And even with that I didn't think it was a red flag, just a small question mark to remember.

Washington has far less talent than the year before from a team that didn't make the tournament in a very down year for college ball. Can't expect Fultz to be able to turn that around. I get the loyalty thing, but I do question the decision by Fultz to go there though.

[jrob23]

What's crazy about this WA team is they had Chriss and Dejounte Murray last year, Fultz this year, and one of the best recruits next year in Michael Porter Jr. The coach can recruit and there's no shortage of fine talent in the area to choose from. Murray and Chriss going pro really caught them by surprise. If Fultz did stay, he and Porter would make for a very interesting team. People blame the coach but most of NCAA is recruiting. Besides Fultz the cupboard is bare. Hopefully for him, he'll get some other high caliber guys to join Porter and make a run. Maybe become the one and done capital of the Northwest.

Murray, Fultz, and Chriss would have been top 10 this season.

[Unbreakable99]

I was debating with someone yesterday about who was the better prospect coming out of college among Fultz Kyrie and Wall. He said Fultz was better than both. I say Kyrie was the better prospect. I also think Wall was the better prospect too. What do you guys say?

[peZt]

Wall was the most hyped coming out of High School but I think Fultz is performing better than both of them in College

[Marcus]

I was debating with someone yesterday about who was the better prospect coming out of college among Fultz Kyrie and Wall. He said Fultz was better than both. I say Kyrie was the better prospect. I also think Wall was the better prospect too. What do you guys say?

Kyrie

[Duke4life831]

I was debating with someone yesterday about who was the better prospect coming out of college among Fultz Kyrie and Wall. He said Fultz was better than both. I say Kyrie was the better prospect. I also think Wall was the better prospect too. What do you guys say?

If we are talking about just level of prospect I'd rank them something like

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Fultz
4. Wall

[No-Man]

Fultz is the best prospect since Davis, not saying that he is going to be better than Giannis, who came after, but in terms of pre-draft knowledge.

[Marcus]

I was debating with someone yesterday about who was the better prospect coming out of college among Fultz Kyrie and Wall. He said Fultz was better than both. I say Kyrie was the better prospect. I also think Wall was the better prospect too. What do you guys say?

If we are talking about just level of prospect I'd rank them something like

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Fultz
4. Wall

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

[blazeyo]

Putting injuries aside, I dont think Fultz will have a better college season than KYrie did with Duke.
He will not have more than 32.5 per and .320 WS on .700 TS%

[Duke4life831]

I was debating with someone yesterday about who was the better prospect coming out of college among Fultz Kyrie and Wall. He said Fultz was better than both. I say Kyrie was the better prospect. I also think Wall was the better prospect too. What do you guys say?

If we are talking about just level of prospect I'd rank them something like

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Fultz
4. Wall

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

Honestly just a guy feeling. With Kyrie having the better shot, even better handles than DSJ (which many can't say), better finisher at the rim even though he's not as explosive. I can easily see why someone would give Kyrie the edge and I couldn't really make an argument against it.

To me DSJ's game is just made for the NBA. Heavy PnR offenses, faster pace, I think he's just going to flourish in the NBA. He has better vision and is a more willing passer especially out of the PnR compared to Kyrie.

Again gut feeling and I know that's a weak argument. I just think the combination of elite explosiveness, elite handles, bulldog mentality, PnR vision, strength, plus what I think will be a pretty solid jumper in the next couple years. The potential of that combo is just too good in my opinion.

[Duke4life831]

Putting injuries aside, I dont think Fultz will have a better college season than KYrie did with Duke.
He will not have more than 32.5 per and .320 WS on .700 TS%

Fultz has already played 2 more games in college than Kyrie did though. Kyrie was also surrounded by a much much better team. That said in just 11 games he played a pretty stacked competition. His back to back games against Michigan St and Butler were tremendous and the final game against Arizona was tremendous. He showed even back then the brighter the lights the better he played.

[Ruzious]

I was debating with someone yesterday about who was the better prospect coming out of college among Fultz Kyrie and Wall. He said Fultz was better than both. I say Kyrie was the better prospect. I also think Wall was the better prospect too. What do you guys say?

If we are talking about just level of prospect I'd rank them something like

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Fultz
4. Wall

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

I'd have Kyrie last of the 4. His defensive ability is behind the others, and he's not a true PG. My view is:

1. Fultz
2. Wall
3. DSJ
4. Kyrie

[Duke4life831]

If we are talking about just level of prospect I'd rank them something like

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Fultz
4. Wall

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

I'd have Kyrie last of the 4. His defensive ability is behind the others, and he's not a true PG. My view is:

1. Fultz
2. Wall
3. DSJ
4. Kyrie

Im curious why you focus on Kyrie's lack of defense but have Fultz #1? Kyrie in his short stint in college played much better defense than what Fultz has shown. Kyrie averaged 8.8 assists per 100 possessions, Fultz 10, I don't see the huge difference there. And its not like Kyrie played off the ball or anything, he was the primary ball handler.

After watching the 3 PGs in this draft, DSJ has the more lazy defensive possessions than anyone else, but he has also shown an ability to lock down on ball handlers at a higher level than Fultz has (especially as of late). If we are talking about who puts in the least consistent effort on D its definitely DSJ.

[peachbucket]

If we are talking about just level of prospect I'd rank them something like

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Fultz
4. Wall

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

I'd have Kyrie last of the 4. His defensive ability is behind the others, and he's not a true PG. My view is:

1. Fultz
2. Wall
3. DSJ
4. Kyrie

Can we throw Rose, Ball, and Lillard into this convo.

[Duke4life831]

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

I'd have Kyrie last of the 4. His defensive ability is behind the others, and he's not a true PG. My view is:

1. Fultz
2. Wall
3. DSJ
4. Kyrie

Can we throw Rose, Ball, and Lillard into this convo.

1. DSJ
2. Kyrie
3. Rose
4. Fultz
5. Ball
6. Wall
7. Lillard

This is based solely on what type of prospect I thought they were coming into the draft, assuming this years guys stay where they are right now. That is why I have Lillard at the lowest.

[Ruzious]

What gives DSJ the edge over Kyrie?

I'd have Kyrie last of the 4. His defensive ability is behind the others, and he's not a true PG. My view is:

1. Fultz
2. Wall
3. DSJ
4. Kyrie

Im curious why you focus on Kyrie's lack of defense but have Fultz #1? Kyrie in his short stint in college played much better defense than what Fultz has shown. Kyrie averaged 8.8 assists per 100 possessions, Fultz 10, I don't see the huge difference there. And its not like Kyrie played off the ball or anything, he was the primary ball handler.

After watching the 3 PGs in this draft, DSJ has the more lazy defensive possessions than anyone else, but he has also shown an ability to lock down on ball handlers at a higher level than Fultz has (especially as of late). If we are talking about who puts in the least consistent effort on D its definitely DSJ.

I assume we're rating them as prospects rather than college players - my bad if that's a wrong assumption. Kyrie never had the defensive ability of the others - and he's a step or 2 below all of them athletically. Just because he had some steals doesn't make him a good defender. Imo, Fultz is clearly the better all-around prospect. If Fultz has fewer assists in 10 games, you have to look at their teammates - where there's no comparison really.