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Post#221 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 7:56 pm

49ers GM candidate Riddick has strong views on NFL coaching

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-GM-candidate-Riddick-has-strong-views-on-10835100.php

“I know there are plenty of people, there are plenty of teams, that wouldn’t hire me based on some of the things that I’ve said, or how strong my personality is,” Riddick said. “It’s one of the main reasons that I’m not in the NFL right now: Because I have a strong personality. I believe in what I believe in football. I’m very confident in what I believe … That’s the way of the world. You can’t please everybody and I don’t really care about pleasing everybody.”

I swear this was ripped out of my own head and heart. It's something I could easily see myself telling people I spend time and work with. Just on a much, much, much, much, much smaller level of course. :)
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Post#222 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 8:16 pm

Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.
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Post#223 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 8:20 pm

Ian Rapoport discusses Anthony Lynn, who meets with the 49ers today

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102368-ian-rapoport-discusses-anthony-lynn-meets-49ers-today/
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Post#224 » by Ray_Dogg » Wed Jan 4, 2017 8:46 pm

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CalamityX12 wrote:good...

still not that high on McDaniels despite the qualifications... something about him i dont trust.


He can be a petulant child and incredibly difficult to work with by all accounts. We'll see if anything has changed. I hope it has, because he does have a really good offensive mind.

That said, we need Riddick on board. I don't want this Caserio/McDaniels combo everyone is talking about.

Despite the Brady and Gronk added value, he is a good OC. I hate to admit it. I like the plays and designs, Brady just makes everything work! So Idk if McDaniels value is amplified by HOF play...

I hope he has changed but we'll see.... I prefer his offense to that of Chip(although i like Chip's aggressive decision makings at times)


But look at how they do when Brady is out and the multi-faceted production from hosts of RBs.
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Post#225 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 8:49 pm

Jeff Garcia makes impassioned pitch to be 49ers’ next head coach

http://www.knbr.com/2017/01/04/jeff-garcia-makes-impassioned-pitch-to-be-49ers-next-head-coach/

And on a lighter note........
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Post#226 » by NinerSickness » Wed Jan 4, 2017 8:54 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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I'm more convinced hearing Riddick talk about the NFL than I am of Caserio's track record. That franchise is ALL Belichik.


I agree and I'm not exactly enamored with their draft ways granted still better than Baalke. The hoodie's coaching makes up for a lot.


Doesn't Belichik have the last call on the draft/FA as well? And it's not like they drafted well in any case - Belichik's system and Tom Brady make up for a lot of hiccups upstream.


You're probably right, which is why I wanted Chris Ballard. :(
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Post#227 » by Ray_Dogg » Wed Jan 4, 2017 8:58 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.


As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.
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Post#228 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:00 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
He can be a petulant child and incredibly difficult to work with by all accounts. We'll see if anything has changed. I hope it has, because he does have a really good offensive mind.

That said, we need Riddick on board. I don't want this Caserio/McDaniels combo everyone is talking about.

Despite the Brady and Gronk added value, he is a good OC. I hate to admit it. I like the plays and designs, Brady just makes everything work! So Idk if McDaniels value is amplified by HOF play...

I hope he has changed but we'll see.... I prefer his offense to that of Chip(although i like Chip's aggressive decision makings at times)


But look at how they do when Brady is out and the multi-faceted production from hosts of RBs.


Yeah, they got an 11-5 year out of Matt Cassel. There entire offense over the years, minus Brady, has pretty much been a plug and play. They are perpetually losing/replacing guys and never seem to miss a beat.

I also have to believe that McD played the biggest role in developing guys like Cassel, Mallett, Garoppolo. Sure, those first two guys turned into big disapointments, but McD helped catapult their value allowing them to be flipped for assets. Also, who knows how either of those guys would have fared had they been able to stay under McD.
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Post#229 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:03 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.


As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


If contract language was the sole impact he provided, then I would tend to agree. However, its been shown that Marathe is the one responsible for the vast majority of in house leaks leading back to the Harbaugh days. That alone makes him a unlikable character.

Also, I personally am taking this writeup with a grain of salt, as Rappaport is known to be buddy buddy with Jed York.
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#230 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:13 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
He can be a petulant child and incredibly difficult to work with by all accounts. We'll see if anything has changed. I hope it has, because he does have a really good offensive mind.

That said, we need Riddick on board. I don't want this Caserio/McDaniels combo everyone is talking about.

Despite the Brady and Gronk added value, he is a good OC. I hate to admit it. I like the plays and designs, Brady just makes everything work! So Idk if McDaniels value is amplified by HOF play...

I hope he has changed but we'll see.... I prefer his offense to that of Chip(although i like Chip's aggressive decision makings at times)


But look at how they do when Brady is out and the multi-faceted production from hosts of RBs.

We didn't see Garropolo whatever over a full course but point made... that's true.... but would you say those QBs made the big plays like Brady?

not sure what you mean by RBs though?
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Re: 49ers GM & HC News & Rumors 

Post#231 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:17 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Despite the Brady and Gronk added value, he is a good OC. I hate to admit it. I like the plays and designs, Brady just makes everything work! So Idk if McDaniels value is amplified by HOF play...

I hope he has changed but we'll see.... I prefer his offense to that of Chip(although i like Chip's aggressive decision makings at times)


But look at how they do when Brady is out and the multi-faceted production from hosts of RBs.

We didn't see Garropolo whatever over a full course but point made... that's true.... but would you say those QBs made the big plays like Brady?

not sure what you mean by RBs though?


I think he's talking about whether it be Laurence Maroney, Corey Dillon, Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Dion Lewis, LeGarette Blount, etc NE always gets quality production from their RB's no matter who they put in there.
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Post#232 » by Jikkle » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:19 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.


As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


The hate he gets is overblown and he's easily one of the best guys at doing contracts. The contracts under his watch are usually pretty team friendly but also pretty fair to the player and I can't recall a time where I thought "wow that's a bad contract".

I think fan uneasiness stems from nobody knows how much influence he really has when it comes to the affairs of the team. When you see him being part of the GM and HC search I can see why fans would question the reasons for him being there.

I don't believe his presence is going to impact the search for the GM/HC because it seems like Baalke was the guy scaring everyone off the organization and if even some of the things that have said about him are true it's with good reason people steered clear.
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Post#233 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:20 pm

thesack12 wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
But look at how they do when Brady is out and the multi-faceted production from hosts of RBs.

We didn't see Garropolo whatever over a full course but point made... that's true.... but would you say those QBs made the big plays like Brady?

not sure what you mean by RBs though?


I think he's talking about whether it be Laurence Maroney, Corey Dillon, Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Dion Lewis, LeGarette Blount, etc NE always gets quality production from their RB's no matter who they put in there.

They get quality plays but aren't those more on the swing plays/screens variety?? which i'm not arguing against at all....

Blount is their best rusher IMO.

Dillon was before McDaniels as well as Maroney no?
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Post#234 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:23 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.


As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


Furthermore, other organizations (Eagles, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Bucs, etc.) engage in many of the same types of acts as far as numbers, tendencies, etc.. Obviously, that doesn't mean they are all number-crunching the exact same way and putting the same value on it for the draft, free agency, player development, etc., so I don't have a major problem if anybody wants to get extremely detailed with it and explain why the 49ers method for doing it isn't as good as team X or if system X would be better than the ways Marathe and York are going about it. I have yet to find anybody dedicated enough or capable of being able to construct an argument for that, though. The same old ways of communicating one's frustration with the lack of success and how they're involved is just too much any more and not my time, but that's just me. Maybe others find some value in the same old, same old.

I also don't fault anybody if they want to stick with the known dysfunction on how Marathe and York go about treating and dealing with employees, what's being asked of them on a day to day basis, or for the type of politicking that they engage in. Go ahead and criticize that all you want because that's where a lot of the dysfunction lies IMO, but the number-crunching and placing values on different parts of the game with different models and the outrage that comes from that is so ludicrous because that's an avenue more and more teams are starting to go down with guys that are on these staffs.
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Post#235 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:28 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:We didn't see Garropolo whatever over a full course but point made... that's true.... but would you say those QBs made the big plays like Brady?

not sure what you mean by RBs though?


I think he's talking about whether it be Laurence Maroney, Corey Dillon, Stevan Ridley, Shane Vereen, Dion Lewis, LeGarette Blount, etc NE always gets quality production from their RB's no matter who they put in there.

They get quality plays but aren't those more on the swing plays/screens variety?? which i'm not arguing against at all....

Blount is their best rusher IMO.

Dillon was before McDaniels as well as Maroney no?


Yeah, NE doesn't run a prototypical ground attack but they do a great job maximizing their RB's skill sets. Which goes back to adapting your scheme to fit the personnel, not trying to force your scheme on bad fits. Thats good offensive architecture and coaching.

All those listed guys overlapped with McDaniels presence. I forgot to list Kevin Faulk also
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Post#236 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:32 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.


As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


Furthermore, other organizations (Eagles, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Bucs, etc.) engage in many of the same types of acts as far as numbers, tendencies, etc.. Obviously, that doesn't mean they are all number-crunching the exact same way and putting the same value on it for the draft, free agency, player development, etc., so I don't have a major problem if anybody wants to get extremely detailed with it and explain why the 49ers method for doing it isn't as good as team X or if system X would be better than the ways Marathe and York are going about it. I have yet to find anybody dedicated enough or capable of being able to construct an argument for that, though. The same old ways of communicating one's frustration with the lack of success and how they're involved is just too much any more and not my time, but that's just me. Maybe others find some value in the same old, same old.

I also don't fault anybody if they want to stick with the known dysfunction on how Marathe and York go about treating and dealing with employees, what's being asked of them on a day to day basis, or for the type of politicking that they engage in. Go ahead and criticize that all you want because that's where a lot of the dysfunction lies IMO, but the number-crunching and placing values on different parts of the game with different models and the outrage that comes from that is so ludicrous because that's an avenue more and more teams are starting to go down with guys that are on these staffs.


Also, it gets highlighted and people go searching for somebody far more when you're losing, but I would also point out that if fans had the ability to see just how many of these right hand men/women are in each organization who are a little slimy for doing X, Y, and Z, then maybe the number of those guys in their own favorite organization wouldn't quite bother them as much because there are so many owners who have people under them who engage in politicking and practices that probably wouldn't make sense to them and who make the owner look bad of many others who work in football across the league.

Obviously that doesn't make it right or smart, but I feel like if people had the ability to see it for what's really there league wide with a lot of these owners, it MIGHT not bother them as much as to how a lot of these teams are run. Maybe it still would because probably with most fans any type of thing that doesn't contribute to success would probably irk them to no end. I don't know. I guess I just personally have gotten immune to it the more I read about owners and front office personnel around the league so it doesn't bother me as much and it's just one more thing that needs to be worked around.
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Post#237 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:32 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Ian Rapoport baffled why national and local view of Paraag Marathe differ

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102370-rapoport-baffled-national-local-view-paraag-marathe-differ/

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Tim Kawakami:

You say Paraag Marathe is respected in the league and maybe he is by some. But what other team would give him this much power? None. Zero.


As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


Furthermore, other organizations (Eagles, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Bucs, etc.) engage in many of the same types of acts as far as numbers, tendencies, etc.. Obviously, that doesn't mean they are all number-crunching the exact same way and putting the same value on it for the draft, free agency, player development, etc., so I don't have a major problem if anybody wants to get extremely detailed with it and explain why the 49ers method for doing it isn't as good as team X or if system X would be better than the ways Marathe and York are going about it. I have yet to find anybody dedicated enough or capable of being able to construct an argument for that, though. The same old ways of communicating one's frustration with the lack of success and how they're involved is just too much any more and not my time, but that's just me. Maybe others find some value in the same old, same old.

I also don't fault anybody if they want to stick with the known dysfunction on how Marathe and York go about treating and dealing with employees, what's being asked of them on a day to day basis, or for the type of politicking that they engage in. Go ahead and criticize that all you want because that's where a lot of the dysfunction lies IMO, but the number-crunching and placing values on different parts of the game with different models and the outrage that comes from that is so ludicrous because that's an avenue more and more teams are starting to go down with guys that are on these staffs.


Answer me one question, If Marathe isn't as involved in football decision making as some people think why is he being consulted about and will be standing in these HC and GM interviews?

If he's strictly a numbers/contract guy, shouldn't his only involvement in the new regime search being writing up the new HC and GM's contracts?
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Post#238 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:40 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:49ers GM candidate Riddick has strong views on NFL coaching

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-GM-candidate-Riddick-has-strong-views-on-10835100.php

“I know there are plenty of people, there are plenty of teams, that wouldn’t hire me based on some of the things that I’ve said, or how strong my personality is,” Riddick said. “It’s one of the main reasons that I’m not in the NFL right now: Because I have a strong personality. I believe in what I believe in football. I’m very confident in what I believe … That’s the way of the world. You can’t please everybody and I don’t really care about pleasing everybody.”

I swear this was ripped out of my own head and heart. It's something I could easily see myself telling people I spend time and work with. Just on a much, much, much, much, much smaller level of course. :)


I'm impressed with Riddick everything he says something. He's always on point.

Listen to some of the stuff he says about organizational structure. It's exactly the mindset a GM needs to have.
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Post#239 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:44 pm

thesack12 wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


Furthermore, other organizations (Eagles, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Bucs, etc.) engage in many of the same types of acts as far as numbers, tendencies, etc.. Obviously, that doesn't mean they are all number-crunching the exact same way and putting the same value on it for the draft, free agency, player development, etc., so I don't have a major problem if anybody wants to get extremely detailed with it and explain why the 49ers method for doing it isn't as good as team X or if system X would be better than the ways Marathe and York are going about it. I have yet to find anybody dedicated enough or capable of being able to construct an argument for that, though. The same old ways of communicating one's frustration with the lack of success and how they're involved is just too much any more and not my time, but that's just me. Maybe others find some value in the same old, same old.

I also don't fault anybody if they want to stick with the known dysfunction on how Marathe and York go about treating and dealing with employees, what's being asked of them on a day to day basis, or for the type of politicking that they engage in. Go ahead and criticize that all you want because that's where a lot of the dysfunction lies IMO, but the number-crunching and placing values on different parts of the game with different models and the outrage that comes from that is so ludicrous because that's an avenue more and more teams are starting to go down with guys that are on these staffs.


Answer me one question, If Marathe isn't as involved in football decision making as some people think why is he being consulted about and will be standing in these HC and GM interviews?

If he's strictly a numbers/contract guy, shouldn't his only involvement in the new regime search being writing up the new HC and GM's contracts?


I'm not saying he isn't involved in football decision making. I'm not saying he's strictly a numbers/contract guy. I'm not saying he isn't part of the dysfunction. I'm not saying he doesn't get into the politics. I'm saying it's difficult to discuss Marathe with people who have already made up their mind on Marathe using a mental structure of how they perceive the situation to be and have little to no idea of how other owners, who also have their own dysfunctional things go on underneath of them, have their organization structured as well with people who do SOME of the same types of studies and number-crunching that the 49ers are getting into.

Again, it's a hard discussion to have because it's such a complicated thing and most fans want it to be you're either a fan or you hate the guy and want him gone type of thing. I'm trying to separate many of the things being discussed, add a whole lot of detail that I've obtained over the years looking into these types of things, and pick out pieces here and there where I find some inaccuracies and then try to tie everything back up together into one picture again. I realize I probably am not doing the best job of that but that's because this is a very detailed subject and I think fans just want it to be a simple yes or no, black or white, bad or good type of thing.
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Post#240 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 4, 2017 9:54 pm

thesack12 wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
As I have said before, there isn't another guy I would want to do contracts. I consider Maraathe the best at it. There is an overwhelming false alarm by fans who think he's in there calling the shots on players. I have never seen that as the case in any reports. He provides info in a lot of areas but it's still up to a football person what to do if anything with that info from what I have read.


Furthermore, other organizations (Eagles, Patriots, Ravens, Falcons, Bucs, etc.) engage in many of the same types of acts as far as numbers, tendencies, etc.. Obviously, that doesn't mean they are all number-crunching the exact same way and putting the same value on it for the draft, free agency, player development, etc., so I don't have a major problem if anybody wants to get extremely detailed with it and explain why the 49ers method for doing it isn't as good as team X or if system X would be better than the ways Marathe and York are going about it. I have yet to find anybody dedicated enough or capable of being able to construct an argument for that, though. The same old ways of communicating one's frustration with the lack of success and how they're involved is just too much any more and not my time, but that's just me. Maybe others find some value in the same old, same old.

I also don't fault anybody if they want to stick with the known dysfunction on how Marathe and York go about treating and dealing with employees, what's being asked of them on a day to day basis, or for the type of politicking that they engage in. Go ahead and criticize that all you want because that's where a lot of the dysfunction lies IMO, but the number-crunching and placing values on different parts of the game with different models and the outrage that comes from that is so ludicrous because that's an avenue more and more teams are starting to go down with guys that are on these staffs.


Answer me one question, If Marathe isn't as involved in football decision making as some people think why is he being consulted about and will be standing in these HC and GM interviews?

If he's strictly a numbers/contract guy, shouldn't his only involvement in the new regime search being writing up the new HC and GM's contracts?


http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/102378-barrows-paraag-marathe-issues-when-dabbling-football-matters/

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