2017 John Lynch hired as GM & Kyle Shanahan named HC

[Pattersonca65]

At least the new HC and Gm will be free to assemble their own group of coaches and scouts. I hope the new HC sticks with Rathman and Pat Harris. But are really good coaches. The oline play has really improved this year. Talent had alot to do with that but Harris did well in New York under Coughlin too. And Rathman has done a good job with the 49er running backs


http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/22630/49ers-coaching-staff-free-to-explore-opportunities

[49er4life1979]

Jan 5 - 10:22 AM[/quote]

I think Cable is a good position coach and the poor oline play in Seattle is not his fault. Seattle has the worst oline talent in the league because they have decided not to spend any money on the oline and it has been a turnstile of players. That being said, Tomsula was a really good position coach too. I know Cable is better than Tomsula but lets not promote another position coach to HC. The odds of success are not good. Al Davis promoted him because no decent HC candidates would go to the Raiders.[/quote]

I cannot imagine them hiring Cable. Maybe want to just pick his brain about the Seahawks and how they view the 49ers.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Elijah Hood - RB - Tar Heels

CBS Sports' Dane Brugler reports that UNC junior RB Elijah Hood is now leaning towards entering the NFL Draft.

This would be a dramatic about-face after Hood announced he'd return to campus last month. It would also be a mistake. Hood dealt with a concussion during a disappointing 2016 campaign in which he topped 100 rushing yards in only two games. In sum, Hood logged only 858 rushing yards and eight touchdowns as his ypc average dropped to 5.9 from the 6.7 mark he posted in 2015. Hood sat out the Sun Bowl for health reasons. We'd advise him to sit out the Draft process this year as well in order to enter 2017 as one of the nation's premier running backs.
Source: Dane Brugler on Twitter

Jan 5 - 2:07 PM

[ChrisPozz]

Washington announces Joe Barry, three other coaches won’t return

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/05/washington-announces-joe-barry-three-other-coaches-wont-return/

Big names Gruden could consider include Wade Phillips, whose son Wes is on Gruden’s offensive staff, and Gus Bradley, who previously coached for Jay’s brother Jon in Tampa.

Another team that will be looking at some of these names.

The fan in me was kind of hoping to see they let go OLB coach Greg Manusky but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'd have some interest in him as an assistant if he became available (HC pending). The 49ers have shown interest in Perry Fewell for HC in the past but that ship has probably sailed, thankfully.

[ChrisPozz]

Falcons OC Kyle Shanahan eyeing Broncos opening

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000769719/article/falcons-oc-kyle-shanahan-eyeing-broncos-opening?campaign=Twitter_atn

File this in the "of course" folder.

[ChrisPozz]

Falcons OC Kyle Shanahan 'definitely' ready to be NFL head coach

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18414243/altanta-falcons-oc-kyle-shanahan-definitely-ready-nfl-head-coach

[ChrisPozz]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

[ChrisPozz]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

http://uncw.edu/profiles/beane-brandon.html

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article24802192.html

[ChrisPozz]

Schrager's Ones to Watch: Vance Joseph and Brandon Beane

http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/schrager-s-ones-to-watch-vance-joseph-and-brandon-beane-about-good-morning-football-on-nfl-network-primary_qf

[Pattersonca65]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

What is your personal opinion of Beane?

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

The Yorks should have hired a consultant to at least give us some credible names to interview out there in the market. It's a moot point now because they've already started the search; and it may sound stupid because the NFL business is pretty much consist of small world where everyone knows each other in that industry (so why hire a consultant when the circle is so small and thus you could do the search yourself). For that reason I'm sure it sounds stupid to spend money on a consultant to help you sort out options... but the Yorks seems clueless in being able to identify the people with the brightest minds to do this job. Spending a couple hundred thousands on a firm to do a diligent search on our behalf and then provide us with reasons why a candidate would be best suited for that particular position is not a bad idea in my opinion. The Yorks need all the help they can in getting a right GM and I'm not so confident that they'll be able to not let their own biases interfere in the selection process.

[NinerSickness]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

What is your personal opinion of Beane?

I don't know anything about Beane himself, but Carolina's been pretty solid in the draft. I hope he had nothing to do with their QB evaluations (Cam is super overrated & mediocre; Jimmy Clausen was a "WTF" pick for me).

[ChrisPozz]

Alex Marvez:

Source tells @sn_nfl that @Saints have fired assts Joe Vitt, Bill Johnson, Greg McMahon, Stan Kwan & James Willis

Joe Vitt - Assistant head coach and LBs coach
Greg McMahon - Special teams
Stan Kwan - Assistant special teams
James Willis - Defensive assistant/linebackers

Another team that'll be out there on the hunt.

[Jikkle]

The Yorks should have hired a consultant to at least give us some credible names to interview out there in the market. It's a moot point now because they've already started the search; and it may sound stupid because the NFL business is pretty much consist of small world where everyone knows each other in that industry (so why hire a consultant when the circle is so small and thus you could do the search yourself). For that reason I'm sure it sounds stupid to spend money on a consultant to help you sort out options... but the Yorks seems clueless in being able to identify the people with the brightest minds to do this job. Spending a couple hundred thousands on a firm to do a diligent search on our behalf and then provide us with reasons why a candidate would be best suited for that particular position is not a bad idea in my opinion. The Yorks need all the help they can in getting a right GM and I'm not so confident that they'll be able to not let their own biases interfere in the selection process.

Considering a lot of the names they are talking to are considered the up and comers it doesn't seem like they needed consultation. And one of the problems with getting a consultant is they tend to just steer you towards their own guys so in this case I think it's better to be free to talk to guys from all different backgrounds.

And consultation isn't going to solve the #1 problem the team has which is the reputation of ownership. Outside the ownership's reputation, it's about as appealing of a job for a GM as there could be hench why they likely have so many interviews for it int he first place.

[ChrisPozz]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

What is your personal opinion of Beane?

Like I said, it doesn't shock me that he appeals to this team. He has taken a not so common path, like Marathe, and built himself up and at least partially carried a lot of different hats for them. It's not common you see someone, let alone someone at around 40 years of age, who started in communications and has touched the NFL personnel side, the college side, the scout side, breaking down free agency, done some administrative work, dabbled in contract negotiations, worked on draft day trades, helped set up their draft day board, worked on BUDGETS, AND represented them on the CBA efforts.

I could be wrong but you don't get to put your hand print on all those things at separate times unless you're doing something fairly right. Maybe if you are in the owner's back pocket or something along those lines but we're talking about an owner in Jerry Richardson, who is one of the most respected owners in the league, and a general manager in Dave Gettleman, who is fairly well respected himself even though I don't LOVE the work he's done personally.

We'll see maybe how they would structure the organization if he's the guy. He compares somewhat to a Tom Gamble mold. A guy that has dabbled in many different parts of an organization and has worn many hats. Now, Gamble has FAR more overall experience in each department than he has, but as far as taking a career path that isn't like a lot of other people who come up working in one or two main areas, he reminds me of Tom Gamble in that way.

Where I would separate him from Gamble for now is I kind of knew how Gamble saw/sees the game and know what Gamble likes in players, which was always in line what I liked out of players I tend to advocate for. I liked how Gamble preferred to structure things underneath him. I don't know if Beane sees the game the way that I do or would tend to believe in a different brand or different principles, so I can't be overly vocal on him like I can with many other guys in the league. My guess is he is somewhat similar to Gettleman in some of what he does, which isn't OVERLY exciting but it's not terrible IMO either if I'm judging it from what I'd like stylistically.

One of the biggest question marks I would have with him is how big is his net with relationships league wide and how good is he at handling a curveball when he needs a name or when things deviate from original script in this or that. That's where having a guy with a little more experience in fewer things can help and an area where Gamble was still very good because he has mastered so many hats.

Hopefully that helps.

[ChrisPozz]

The Yorks should have hired a consultant to at least give us some credible names to interview out there in the market. It's a moot point now because they've already started the search; and it may sound stupid because the NFL business is pretty much consist of small world where everyone knows each other in that industry (so why hire a consultant when the circle is so small and thus you could do the search yourself). For that reason I'm sure it sounds stupid to spend money on a consultant to help you sort out options... but the Yorks seems clueless in being able to identify the people with the brightest minds to do this job. Spending a couple hundred thousands on a firm to do a diligent search on our behalf and then provide us with reasons why a candidate would be best suited for that particular position is not a bad idea in my opinion. The Yorks need all the help they can in getting a right GM and I'm not so confident that they'll be able to not let their own biases interfere in the selection process.

Considering a lot of the names they are talking to are considered the up and comers it doesn't seem like they needed consultation. And one of the problems with getting a consultant is they tend to just steer you towards their own guys so in this case I think it's better to be free to talk to guys from all different backgrounds.

And consultation isn't going to solve the #1 problem the team has which is the reputation of ownership. Outside the ownership's reputation, it's about as appealing of a job for a GM as there could be hench why they likely have so many interviews for it int he first place.

Not that all firms do bad work, but there are dozens of horror stories on the type of return some of these teams have gotten from the work these search firms have given teams. I am starting to DESPISE these organizations that still hire so many of these firms to come up with a list of names. I have read and have heard that often it's stuff that any dialed in sports reporter could come up with via their own league wide connections. It's becoming an outdated way of doing things IMO.

The only times I would tend to be less vocal with these search firms is when it's an owner who is disconnected league wide and has next to nothing for relationships with anybody in the league other than the people in his own organization.

[Pattersonca65]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

What is your personal opinion of Beane?

I don't know anything about Beane himself, but Carolina's been pretty solid in the draft. I hope he had nothing to do with their QB evaluations (Cam is super overrated & mediocre; Jimmy Clausen was a "WTF" pick for me).

That is good to know. They've had success in recent years overall.

[Pattersonca65]

Peter Schrager:

NEWS: Panthers Assistant General Manager Brandon Beane will be interviewing for the 49ers General Manager job next week. @NFLonFOX @gmfb

Young guy. Still under 40 (I believe) but has worked for the Panthers since he was in his early 20s. Got his start as a communications guy. He has experience for them across the board - NFL, college, scouting, free agency, administrative, contract negotiations, draft day trader and board builder, developing budgets, CBA representative. Really just a good story and a non-traditional type that would appeal to Jed and Paraag IMO.

Notice how we're seeing GM/HC candidates being scheduled who come from the same organizations. Safe to say the 49ers have a pretty good idea who some of these GM candidates would like to consider and who some of the HC candidates may want to work with in the front office IMO.

What is your personal opinion of Beane?

Like I said, it doesn't shock me that he appeals to this team. He has taken a not so common path, like Marathe, and built himself up and at least partially carried a lot of different hats for them. It's not common you see someone, let alone someone at around 40 years of age, who started in communications and has touched the NFL personnel side, the college side, the scout side, breaking down free agency, done some administrative work, dabbled in contract negotiations, worked on draft day trades, helped set up their draft day board, worked on BUDGETS, AND represented them on the CBA efforts.

I could be wrong but you don't get to put your hand print on all those things at separate times unless you're doing something fairly right. Maybe if you are in the owner's back pocket or something along those lines but we're talking about an owner in Jerry Richardson, who is one of the most respected owners in the league, and a general manager in Dave Gettleman, who is fairly well respected himself even though I don't LOVE the work he's done personally.

We'll see maybe how they would structure the organization if he's the guy. He compares somewhat to a Tom Gamble mold. A guy that has dabbled in many different parts of an organization and has worn many hats. Now, Gamble has FAR more overall experience in each department than he has, but as far as taking a career path that isn't like a lot of other people who come up working in one or two main areas, he reminds me of Tom Gamble in that way.

Where I would separate him from Gamble for now is I kind of knew how Gamble saw/sees the game and know what Gamble likes in players, which was always in line what I liked out of players I tend to advocate for. I liked how Gamble preferred to structure things underneath him. I don't know if Beane sees the game the way that I do or would tend to believe in a different brand or different principles, so I can't be overly vocal on him like I can with many other guys in the league. My guess is he is somewhat similar to Gettleman in some of what he does, which isn't OVERLY exciting but it's not terrible IMO either if I'm judging it from what I'd like stylistically.

One of the biggest question marks I would have with him is how big is his net with relationships league wide and how good is he at handling a curveball when he needs a name or when things deviate from original script in this or that. That's where having a guy with a little more experience in fewer things can help and an area where Gamble was still very good because he has mastered so many hats.

Hopefully that helps.

That does help, thanks. As an average fan, I don't know who many of these assistant FO people are and all we have to go on is how the organizations they belong to have done overall

[Pattersonca65]

The Yorks should have hired a consultant to at least give us some credible names to interview out there in the market. It's a moot point now because they've already started the search; and it may sound stupid because the NFL business is pretty much consist of small world where everyone knows each other in that industry (so why hire a consultant when the circle is so small and thus you could do the search yourself). For that reason I'm sure it sounds stupid to spend money on a consultant to help you sort out options... but the Yorks seems clueless in being able to identify the people with the brightest minds to do this job. Spending a couple hundred thousands on a firm to do a diligent search on our behalf and then provide us with reasons why a candidate would be best suited for that particular position is not a bad idea in my opinion. The Yorks need all the help they can in getting a right GM and I'm not so confident that they'll be able to not let their own biases interfere in the selection process.

Considering a lot of the names they are talking to are considered the up and comers it doesn't seem like they needed consultation. And one of the problems with getting a consultant is they tend to just steer you towards their own guys so in this case I think it's better to be free to talk to guys from all different backgrounds.

And consultation isn't going to solve the #1 problem the team has which is the reputation of ownership. Outside the ownership's reputation, it's about as appealing of a job for a GM as there could be hench why they likely have so many interviews for it int he first place.

Not that all firms do bad work, but there are dozens of horror stories on the type of return some of these teams have gotten from the work these search firms have given teams. I am starting to DESPISE these organizations that still hire so many of these firms to come up with a list of names. I have read and have heard that often it's stuff that any dialed in sports reporter could come up with via their own league wide connections. It's becoming an outdated way of doing things IMO.

The only times I would tend to be less vocal with these search firms is when it's an owner who is disconnected league wide and has next to nothing for relationships with anybody in the league other than the people in his own organization.

When he says consultant I wonder if he means hiring a search form or hiring a former front office person like a Shanahan or someone like that to help in the search.

[wco81]

They drafted Lockett.

Paul Richardson didn't look bad before he blew out his knee.

They also got Rawls and it seems Probice was looking good for them too.