problem finally identified

[davidvolumes]

For weeks we have struggled to identify the problem. The problem is a franchise player who only does one thing well; rebound. No defense...doesnt block shots.The other problem is the coach who is great gm but not a good coach. Watch him insert baynes over boban as soon as baynes healthy

[MotownMadness]

I think we've all identified that a while ago

[gusman]

True

[gusman]

Andre is a loser lazy tin man

[Pharaoh]

The problems are numerous!

1 - consistency: a lot of our guys dont bring it every night

2 - offense: we don't share the ball or have much off the ball movement which allows teams to key in on our guys. Much easier to defend when dudes are just standing in a spot most of the shot clock

3 - defense: it's all about pace and space now and we give up too much penetration. Once that happens you're done as your D now has to scramble

4 - age, experience, BBIQ: when things break down on both ends we lack everything you need to recover!

When you combine all of these things then you're gonna have a team that struggles on both ends every night, all night long

If we go back and read, watch, listen to everything SVG has preached in relation to team building he believes that continuity is vital!

It's what gets teams from the middle of the road to the top 4/5 in their conference...

IF there's no trade then obviously that's Stan's plan...and whether that's the right move will be determined by next season

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[pistontr]

svg is very good (not great) coach and horrible gm. he has given too much money for mediocre talents (jackson, harris).

[pistontr]

this team's problem is talent. I know it is not easy for you to admit. you guys are huge fans of harris and kcp. you were huge fans of reggie last year but not that much this year for some reasons. and you are not going to be huge fans of harris and kco next year.

[In SVG We Trust]

svg is very good (not great) coach and horrible gm. he has given too much money for mediocre talents (jackson, harris).

What would you have done in his position? Please put here your master plan.

[El Chivo]

Harris and Jackson contracts are fair with new cba. Unfortunately we don't have the superstar.

[jakebernat]

this team's problem is talent. I know it is not easy for you to admit. you guys are huge fans of harris and kcp. you were huge fans of reggie last year but not that much this year for some reasons. and you are not going to be huge fans of harris and kco next year.

Yikes.

Nothing wrong with KCP and Tobias. It's that guy we gave the largest contract in Pistons history to that's been the biggest problem.

Drummond was supposed to take the next step defensively and anchor a top-5 defensive team. Instead, he has regressed (arguably on both ends,) whereas guys like KCP, Tobias, and Leuer have shown they're capable of larger roles.

It's no secret that we'll go as far as Drummond takes us, and that truly scares the hell outta me. He seemingly has no mean-streak about him, no desire to dominate, and no willingness to give 100% effort for 48 minutes. The sulking, blown defensive assignments, lack of effort, and lack of accountability are traits of a high school players. Drummond is now in his 5th season in the league, time to put your big boy pants on and be the leader you signed on to be.

[ComboGuardCity]

A 5 game win streak will stop these threads.

[MotownMadness]

A 5 game win streak will stop these threads.

Yeah I've never been one of the overly optimistic ones on here but this is out of hand, There's still a lot of games left this year and we won't play like this all season. I wish we would so we could get a better pick but they are going to turn it around soon just looking at the way the schedule is getting ready to go.

[hoophabit]

Oh c'mon now fellows, everyone's entitled to their opinions. Besides, all of us not ready to slash our wrists are supposed to have disappeared by now, cowed (no offense Cow) by the preponderance of opinion.

[LaSheed]

Do you guys remember all of the trash we had running this team? 20 Coaches and a GM that had no clue how to rebuild a team.

We finally turn a corner have plenty of assets and we hit a tough 2-3 week stretch and now let's fire SVG.

Players have to take accountability for not producing on the court.

Come on.

[davidvolumes]

Fellows this thread is about the elephant in the room. Andre is a rebounding champ. At this point: 5 years into the career he is NOTHING more. And by all appearance it doesn't appear he will ever be anything more. For those old enough to remember Dennis Rodman, Dennis was both a rebounding champ and first team all defense. What Dennis was not was the face of the franchise. Dre is paid Micheal Jordan money Magic Durant Curry. Paid to be face of franchise. All he does is rebound. On defense it doesn't appear he is even trying.150 million for that.Now that's an elephant in a room.

[JohnReese]

I disagree with the idea of Drummond being good at rebound. He is good getting rebound for his stats. That is quite different. 0 IQ is the problem.

The lack of Intimidation is another of his problems, rivals are not afraid of getting close to him. You could see it last game, nobody wanted to finish next to Boban but when Andre checked in Kemba went to attack the rim inmidiately.

There are just two things I enjoy of his game, offensive rebounding and his hook. Beyond those things he is a really mediocre player.

[DBC10]

I disagree with the idea of Drummond being good at rebound. He is good getting rebound for his stats. That is quite different. 0 IQ is the problem.

The lack of Intimidation is another of his problems, rivals are not afraid of getting close to him. You could see it last game, nobody wanted to finish next to Boban but when Andre checked in Kemba went to attack the rim inmidiately.

There are just two things I enjoy of his game, offensive rebounding and his hook. Beyond those things he is a really mediocre player.

To be fair, Boban is 7'3, not even fellow centers would want to attack him down there since he doesn't even need to jump to get an embarrassing block on a shot attempt. Kemba is like 6'0 tall at his morning best and he had already gotten blocked embarrassingly so he stopped.

But I agree, teams aren't afraid to challenge Dre at the rim since he'll either get called for a foul or he really won't attempt the block like he used to. I think his defensive FG% at the rim allowed is quite high this year, well in comparison to other starting centers. That's just one stat, but it's not a good stat to have as high as he is physically capable of imposing.

Dre's problems lies with the fact that he doesn't really know how to recognize when to drop down to the paint or when to get out there and challenge drives. He always gets frozen by the slightest of hesitation dribbles once he's caught in no man's land which is either a lob for the other team's big man or a guard lay up. I think we should just turn him into a perimeter focused defensive center since he's far more valuable for his ability to move and challenge guards up front.

[Crymson]

This thread is pure, comic gold. My goodness.

[Han Solo]

A 5 game win streak will stop these threads.

Impossible for this current team.

[Crymson]

A 5 game win streak will stop these threads.

Impossible for this current team.

About time for you to jump off the bandwagon, then! Take some of the other weak-willed personages with you.