Hornacek comments on Viral Clip Of Him Turning Back on ISO Melo

[Knicksfan1992]

He may have been calling for a screen from KOQ, but he definitely waved someone off beforehand. He broke the play. The coach has all but confirmed that.

And there's a reason why we're all talking about this. This isn't Steph Curry waving someone off before splashing another game winner on his way to a 31-5 record. The Knicks offense looks brutal, and so does their record over their last 10. No wonder Jeff looked perturbed. He didn't need to wait until Melo bricked it to know it was another ugly play.

Knicks offense is fine. It's the defense that is costing us games and cost us what could have been blow out wins early in the season. We can score with anyone generally especially when Melo is on the floor. Problem is they can stop us slightly more than we can stop them haha. Offense could use some adjustments for sure. A pass first 2 way pg would work wonders for us.

[dakomish23]

man these fools are thirsty for anything anti Melo

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

So because I don't bash him irrationally Im all About Melo. I support KP too but I don't see any of you guys having a problem with that. I'm about the Knicks princess. Plain and simple.

You guys are a 100x more supportive of KP than I am of Melo so that must mean you want his juices on your face. Right?

[CJackson]

watching bill pidto heel turn like ..

Nah, he was always a Knicks fan. He just over defends things at times, like he used to do with Phil which is when I bent his beak a little. Bill used to have afternoon delight fantasies about Phil. Probably not so much anymore.

[AmazingJason]

He may have been calling for a screen from KOQ, but he definitely waved someone off beforehand. He broke the play. The coach has all but confirmed that.

And there's a reason why we're all talking about this. This isn't Steph Curry waving someone off before splashing another game winner on his way to a 31-5 record. The Knicks offense looks brutal, and so does their record over their last 10. No wonder Jeff looked perturbed. He didn't need to wait until Melo bricked it to know it was another ugly play.

Knicks offense is fine. It's the defense that is costing us games and cost us what could have been blow out wins early in the season. We can score with anyone generally especially when Melo is on the floor. Problem is they can stop us slightly more than we can stop them haha. Offense could use some adjustments for sure. A pass first 2 way pg would work wonders for us.

The defense is worse, but the offense actually isn't fine. It's down to 17th in efficiency now, tied with Chicago. And let's face it, the best defense we have is a good offense

[CJackson]

man these fools are thirsty for anything anti Melo

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

So because I don't bash him irrationally Im all About Melo. I support KP too but I don't see any of you guys having a problem with that. I'm about the Knicks princess. Plain and simple.

You guys are a 100x more supportive of KP than I am of Melo so that must mean you want his juices on your face. Right?

Every one of the few brain cells you have left are allocated to blurting out KP! any time someone mentions Melo.

If only Pavlov were alive today. He'd have a field day with you.

[Bill Pidto]

watching bill pidto heel turn like ..

[dakomish23]

in a fun way, so are you.

in fact one could say you're even more thirsty because you'll get to defend his honor.

Once I realized you were more concerned with being anti Melo than pro Knicks I stopped wasting my time with your kind. You guys quote me not the other way around.

you're actually the one that quotes people.

thirsty.

Now you gotta lie

look at the last PG thread. who quotes who? In fact you quoted someone talking about my post and that's the only reason I even acknowledged you.

Some of your circle jerk even talks about me without quoting me. Pathetic and corny.

[dakomish23]

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

So because I don't bash him irrationally Im all About Melo. I support KP too but I don't see any of you guys having a problem with that. I'm about the Knicks princess. Plain and simple.

You guys are a 100x more supportive of KP than I am of Melo so that must mean you want his juices on your face. Right?

Every one of the few brain cells you have left are allocated to blurting out KP! any time someone mentions Melo.

If only Pavlov were alive today. He'd have a field day with you.

False. I support KP and you guys trying hard to make it seem otherwise. Pretty lame

[Greenie]

Imma be good and bite my tongue

No one cares if you do or don't. You're a lot like a chihuahua. Not intimidating at all. Just noisy.

Do you want a treat?

You know what? shut the fuq up talking to me like that.

[Bill Pidto]

watching bill pidto heel turn like ..

Nah, he was always a Knicks fan. He just over defends things at times, like he used to do with Phil which is when I bent his beak a little. Bill used to have afternoon delight fantasies about Phil. Probably not so much anymore.

My Phil-anthropy is on hold for now. I still have faith, but what happens with the rest of this season/Melo is going to tell us more about him than anything he's done for this team before.

PS- you'll always be pretty much my favorite poster, no matter what little scuffles we've had in the past. You wanna be Hall or Nash?

[F N 11]

Every fan does that. When the shot clock is running down we know exactly whats fricken coming.

[DOT]

man these fools are thirsty for anything anti Melo

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

Exhibit A on why Bill and I have clashed in the past, but we still like each other.

Because he is a Knicks homer, not a player homer.

Some of you don't have a clue about the difference and try to tell people who criticize your pets that they are not true Knicks fans. I've only seen Melo homers play the "you're being emotional" card when they are the biggest emo freaks by a country mile.

If you're going to be a homer, be a Knicks homer. Every other kind of homer has proven themselves to be incapable of making basic distinctions in debate and are for the most part dumber than a bag of rocks.

I think a lot of it comes down to people like you coming across as wanting Melo to do bad
Like, I want Melo to go out there and be good, I want DRose to go back to his MVP form, I want Noah to be a DPOY candidate again, I want KP to mature into the best player in the league
It's just annoying when people go on the board and openly root for the Knicks to lose for whatever reason
I don't care if it gets us a higher draft pick, you should never want your team to lose
I'm okay with us losing because the draft pick is the consolation prize, but the goal of a team or fanbase should not be to lose games.
I also just hate it when people think they know what's going on inside someone's mind when in reality they don't.
We have no idea what Horny was thinking during this clip, maybe he was disgusted with Melo, maybe he was going to the bench to call in a sub, maybe he farted and didn't want to stand there anymore. I don't know, and neither does anyone who's name isn't Jeff Hornacek, so assuming you know what he's thinking when most of us don't know him on a personal level even is asinine
All I know is from watching this, Melo gets the ball with 6 seconds, waves off something (it looked like a Noah screen, but idk), and then got upset when KOQ didn't come to set the pick for him, so he had to jack up a contested shot. That's just a basic communication error, which is understandable but inexcusable, especially now that we're almost halfway through the season. We have until the end of January before we can clearly say this team has been a failure, as they have had some very good stretches, but as of now it's looking like we'll be picking in the top ten in June

[Rotten Apple]

I see there's still a turf war going on. Knicks will never be good until the fan base unites honestly. It's never us vs them, it's us vs us.

[AmazingJason]

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

Exhibit A on why Bill and I have clashed in the past, but we still like each other.

Because he is a Knicks homer, not a player homer.

Some of you don't have a clue about the difference and try to tell people who criticize your pets that they are not true Knicks fans. I've only seen Melo homers play the "you're being emotional" card when they are the biggest emo freaks by a country mile.

If you're going to be a homer, be a Knicks homer. Every other kind of homer has proven themselves to be incapable of making basic distinctions in debate and are for the most part dumber than a bag of rocks.

I think a lot of it comes down to people like you coming across as wanting Melo to do bad
Like, I want Melo to go out there and be good, I want DRose to go back to his MVP form, I want Noah to be a DPOY candidate again, I want KP to mature into the best player in the league
It's just annoying when people go on the board and openly root for the Knicks to lose for whatever reason
I don't care if it gets us a higher draft pick, you should never want your team to lose
I'm okay with us losing because the draft pick is the consolation prize, but the goal of a team or fanbase should not be to lose games.
I also just hate it when people think they know what's going on inside someone's mind when in reality they don't.
We have no idea what Horny was thinking during this clip, maybe he was disgusted with Melo, maybe he was going to the bench to call in a sub, maybe he farted and didn't want to stand there anymore. I don't know, and neither does anyone who's name isn't Jeff Hornacek, so assuming you know what he's thinking when most of us don't know him on a personal level even is asinine
All I know is from watching this, Melo gets the ball with 6 seconds, waves off something (it looked like a Noah screen, but idk), and then got upset when KOQ didn't come to set the pick for him, so he had to jack up a contested shot. That's just a basic communication error, which is understandable but inexcusable, especially now that we're almost halfway through the season. We have until the end of January before we can clearly say this team has been a failure, as they have had some very good stretches, but as of now it's looking like we'll be picking in the top ten in June

Now we know what Jeff was thinking because he just told us Either Jeff is trying to get fired or he has a stealth tank truce with Phil. Only reason for some of those coaching decisions during the Bucks game.

[dakomish23]

man these fools are thirsty for anything anti Melo

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

Exhibit A on why Bill and I have clashed in the past, but we still like each other.

Because he is a Knicks homer, not a player homer.

Some of you don't have a clue about the difference and try to tell people who criticize your pets that they are not true Knicks fans. I've only seen Melo homers play the "you're being emotional" card when they are the biggest emo freaks by a country mile.

If you're going to be a homer, be a Knicks homer. Every other kind of homer has proven themselves to be incapable of making basic distinctions in debate and are for the most part dumber than a bag of rocks.

You fools come into every thread bashing Melo. not the other way around. I support Melo because he's on my team. Not the other way around.

I'm here to post with Knicks fans who want to be rational and talk hoops. Not for the useless garbage you try to pass off as acumen.

You still talk about me when im not even talking to you. But I'm the sensitive one

[CJackson]

watching bill pidto heel turn like ..

Nah, he was always a Knicks fan. He just over defends things at times, like he used to do with Phil which is when I bent his beak a little. Bill used to have afternoon delight fantasies about Phil. Probably not so much anymore.

My Phil-anthropy is on hold for now. I still have faith, but what happens with the rest of this season/Melo is going to tell us more about him than anything he's done for this team before.

PS- you'll always be pretty much my favorite poster, no matter what little scuffles we've had in the past. You wanna be Hall or Nash?

Yeah, we'll always be good.

Phil's dominant issue is he pretty much screwed the pooch with his first move. That NTC is just some gory chit. Whatever good he's done really gets wiped out by hitching his fortunes to Melo. A real NBA executive is part money man. You don't kill liquidity on your assets like that. Phil has no skills in this respect and it made him short-sighted from the get go. You can dissect the pros and cons of his tenure after that, but it really is overshadowed by giving a Diva like Melo control of the franchise.

wrestling I don't know squat about. Never watched WWE once in my life. Just see the GIFs and laugh at them. (i googled hall nash to even have a clue what you meant)

[CJackson]

And you're just thirsty for that Melo D, and I'm not talking about a better defensive effort.

Me personally? I'm thirsty for a championship. No one can tell me I'm not a die-hard Knicks fan. 99.9% of the time, I go to bat for this team harder than 99.9% of this board. So this isn't about some Melo fixation for me. I'm simply tired of talented Knicks teams playing ugly basketball. At least during that 17-win season, the team had an excuse, and Melo had every reason to take it upon himself to try and score most of the team's points.

But hey, 2-8 over the last 10 after a pretty good start to the year. Meanwhile, Melo is all like, "nah, we don't need to move the ball more. The fuq is BJ talkin bout?". And, "when we win it's us, when we lose, it's me". As he campaigns for a spot on the all-star team like it's still election season.

Exhibit A on why Bill and I have clashed in the past, but we still like each other.

Because he is a Knicks homer, not a player homer.

Some of you don't have a clue about the difference and try to tell people who criticize your pets that they are not true Knicks fans. I've only seen Melo homers play the "you're being emotional" card when they are the biggest emo freaks by a country mile.

If you're going to be a homer, be a Knicks homer. Every other kind of homer has proven themselves to be incapable of making basic distinctions in debate and are for the most part dumber than a bag of rocks.

You fools come into every thread bashing Melo. not the other way around. I support Melo because he's on my team. Not the other way around.

I'm here to post with Knicks fans who want to be rational and talk hoops. Not for the useless garbage you try to pass off as acumen.

You still talk about me when im not even talking to you. But I'm the sensitive one

Dear Mr. Jones,

We're laughing at you, not with you.

Sincerely,
The Pavlovian Institute of Drool Reflex Humor

[knicknack]

Wasn't he calling for the pick?

Yes

Horny is the same dude that had Melo inbound the ball.


When the fuq will we get a consistent coach that can perform here in NY.

I'm too young for Riley and JVG

why would we want melo having the ball when melo has had a terrible shooting season?\

melo isn't elite or dominant anymore, he's average.

Who else would you have had (that was on the floor for us) take that shot or run a play for? Just saying, they all are a risky bet but at least you know with Melo he may make the shot or draw a foul.

[DOT]

Exhibit A on why Bill and I have clashed in the past, but we still like each other.

Because he is a Knicks homer, not a player homer.

Some of you don't have a clue about the difference and try to tell people who criticize your pets that they are not true Knicks fans. I've only seen Melo homers play the "you're being emotional" card when they are the biggest emo freaks by a country mile.

If you're going to be a homer, be a Knicks homer. Every other kind of homer has proven themselves to be incapable of making basic distinctions in debate and are for the most part dumber than a bag of rocks.

I think a lot of it comes down to people like you coming across as wanting Melo to do bad
Like, I want Melo to go out there and be good, I want DRose to go back to his MVP form, I want Noah to be a DPOY candidate again, I want KP to mature into the best player in the league
It's just annoying when people go on the board and openly root for the Knicks to lose for whatever reason
I don't care if it gets us a higher draft pick, you should never want your team to lose
I'm okay with us losing because the draft pick is the consolation prize, but the goal of a team or fanbase should not be to lose games.
I also just hate it when people think they know what's going on inside someone's mind when in reality they don't.
We have no idea what Horny was thinking during this clip, maybe he was disgusted with Melo, maybe he was going to the bench to call in a sub, maybe he farted and didn't want to stand there anymore. I don't know, and neither does anyone who's name isn't Jeff Hornacek, so assuming you know what he's thinking when most of us don't know him on a personal level even is asinine
All I know is from watching this, Melo gets the ball with 6 seconds, waves off something (it looked like a Noah screen, but idk), and then got upset when KOQ didn't come to set the pick for him, so he had to jack up a contested shot. That's just a basic communication error, which is understandable but inexcusable, especially now that we're almost halfway through the season. We have until the end of January before we can clearly say this team has been a failure, as they have had some very good stretches, but as of now it's looking like we'll be picking in the top ten in June

Now we know what Jeff was thinking because he just told us Either Jeff is trying to get fired or he has a stealth tank truce with Phil. Only reason for some of those coaching decisions during the Bucks game.

Or he's just a mediocre coach who should've known better
I think Jeff is fine as the coach for now, you can see the difference between his and Fish's relationship with Phil where because Phil used to be Fish's coach, he was used to telling him what to do and getting mad when he tried to do his own thing, however with Jeff Phil obviously respects him enough to let him do his own thing with the offense and it looks like they're in "sympatico" or whatever the hell he said over the summer
I think the big issue with Jeff is Rhombus, obviously. He's trash as a def coordinator, which is supposedly his specialty. I think what happened is Jeff wanted his guy, I forget his name, but he had already gone to the Cavs to be an assistant. So Jeff talks to Phil, and decides to keep Rambis on because he has a relationship with both of them (played with Jeff in Phoenix), and when they got off to a bad start defensively, he chose Rambis to be the def coach knowing that he would take the blame, as the fanbase already didn't like him. So really, Rambis is the fall guy, as the defense has actually been better under him (still not good though), but because it's his job, he takes the blame.
I think that's every bit as likely as the conspiracy of Phil having Rambis waiting in the wings spying on Jeff and trying to take his job, because if Phil wanted Rambis, we would have Rambis

[dakomish23]

I see there's still a turf war going on. Knicks will never be good until the fan base unites honestly. It's never us vs them, it's us vs us.

This fan base will never be united as long as Melo is on the team. Could make a deep playoff run and it wouldn't matter.