Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[DOT]

KP, Willy, Holiday, Lee, Kuz and KOQ are still a good starting point after tanking and getting the # 1 pick in the draft

I mostly just disagree with the concept of tanking, that being bad for long enough will eventually get you to be good. With that being said, I would not be opposed to trading Melo because this team without Melo would be bad enough to get a good pick, and then next year would have a good foundation for our youngsters to grow into

trade Melo and rest KP for 20 games this season and put Rose on a train and there's still a shot at those ping pong balls

Nah, we need Rose to be the tank commander. Would be glorious

[CJackson]

I mostly just disagree with the concept of tanking, that being bad for long enough will eventually get you to be good. With that being said, I would not be opposed to trading Melo because this team without Melo would be bad enough to get a good pick, and then next year would have a good foundation for our youngsters to grow into

trade Melo and rest KP for 20 games this season and put Rose on a train and there's still a shot at those ping pong balls

Nah, we need Rose to be the tank commander. Would be glorious

is it allowed for Rose to suit up in a bridal gown?

(at least then he can trip on his own train)

[god shammgod]

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“We’ve still got to trust our teammates,” Hornacek said on Friday. “If he drives in there and he’s open he takes the shot. If they collapse and they come in on him he’s got to be able to kick it out.

“We’ve got to be able to get him to the free-throw line. Get six, seven points at the free-throw line will help us. When he goes in there and doesn’t finish, the [other] team scores seems like 95 percent of the time when they go in the other direction. He’s out of the play, he’s underneath the basket and the other team is off to the races. We’ve got to either end the possession with a make or hopefully he gets fouled so we can set our defense.”

[blueNorange]

yes jeff, rose isn't a good basketball player.

i hope that you and kristaps can get your hands on one of the top pg's in this upcoming draft.

[Knicksfan1992]

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“We’ve still got to trust our teammates,” Hornacek said on Friday. “If he drives in there and he’s open he takes the shot. If they collapse and they come in on him he’s got to be able to kick it out.

“We’ve got to be able to get him to the free-throw line. Get six, seven points at the free-throw line will help us. When he goes in there and doesn’t finish, the [other] team scores seems like 95 percent of the time when they go in the other direction. He’s out of the play, he’s underneath the basket and the other team is off to the races. We’ve got to either end the possession with a make or hopefully he gets fouled so we can set our defense.”

That's why I liked that he was going to that floater more and more. It doesn't take him out of the play and leaves him in a position to get his own miss. That Melo ejection in the Atlanta game seemed to bring out the worst in Derrick and he hasn't really changed back to what he was doing while we were actually winning.

[CJackson]

Rose's floater is his best shot and much better than going all the way and attempting contested circus layups

Jeff is right. Don't know if Rose is savvy enough to adjust or if he'll just be another butthurt diva who can't handle their bosses talking about how they play

[god shammgod]

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“We’ve still got to trust our teammates,” Hornacek said on Friday. “If he drives in there and he’s open he takes the shot. If they collapse and they come in on him he’s got to be able to kick it out.

“We’ve got to be able to get him to the free-throw line. Get six, seven points at the free-throw line will help us. When he goes in there and doesn’t finish, the [other] team scores seems like 95 percent of the time when they go in the other direction. He’s out of the play, he’s underneath the basket and the other team is off to the races. We’ve got to either end the possession with a make or hopefully he gets fouled so we can set our defense.”

That's why I liked that he was going to that floater more and more. It doesn't take him out of the play and leaves him in a position to get his own miss. That Melo ejection in the Atlanta game seemed to bring out the worst in Derrick and he hasn't really changed back to what he was doing while we were actually winning.

was surprised he criticized him so openly

[Dr. Detfink]

I'm sorry but attacking the basket only HELPS the Knicks. Drawing fouls, weakens the D. Stops the clock, while adding points. I argue, Rose doesn't attack enough!

DJ Jazzy Jeff wants to run that Phoenix garbage. Can't wait for this guy to go. He doesn't know what he wants.

[DOT]

I'm sorry but attacking the basket only HELPS the Knicks. Drawing fouls, weakens the D. Stops the clock, while adding points. I argue, Rose doesn't attack enough!

DJ Jazzy Jeff wants to run that Phoenix garbage. Can't wait for this guy to go. He doesn't know what he wants.

I dunno man. Phoenix had some pretty good offense those years

[DOT]

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That's why I liked that he was going to that floater more and more. It doesn't take him out of the play and leaves him in a position to get his own miss. That Melo ejection in the Atlanta game seemed to bring out the worst in Derrick and he hasn't really changed back to what he was doing while we were actually winning.

was surprised he criticized him so openly

Phil taught him that one

[NBA Fan 1234]

I'm sorry but attacking the basket only HELPS the Knicks. Drawing fouls, weakens the D. Stops the clock, while adding points. I argue, Rose doesn't attack enough!

DJ Jazzy Jeff wants to run that Phoenix garbage. Can't wait for this guy to go. He doesn't know what he wants.

In theory, yeah, attacking the basket helps...but he doesn't get fouled, the drawing fouls, stop clock, and adding point argument is non-existent. As for weakening the defense, he doesn't kick out of drives because of his tunnel vision (or only does it on occasion), so that's also not entirely true.

Also, "DJ Jazzy Jeff's" Phoenix offense was a north-south offense based on attacking the rim, not the "shoot a million threes and don't play defense" offense that I think you're referring to. So...again...you're wrong. The issue is the Knicks are in between his offense and the triangle, but most often that are caught running nothing. This team has no offense. Said it at the time that hiring Horny was a bad move. I don't think I got a single thing wrong this offseason (I even called Holiday becoming an impact player for us.)

[Knicksfan1992]

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That's why I liked that he was going to that floater more and more. It doesn't take him out of the play and leaves him in a position to get his own miss. That Melo ejection in the Atlanta game seemed to bring out the worst in Derrick and he hasn't really changed back to what he was doing while we were actually winning.

was surprised he criticized him so openly

Yeah me too but, it seems as though Hornacek has Phil's full trust or else I wouldn't think he'd be making all of these comments he's been making.

[prophet_of_rage]

Hornacek working on losing his second team

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[Sark]

Rose hurts defensive balance a lot more when he gets destroyed on every pick that he runs into. Dennis Schroeder and the Hawks put on a clinic on how to pick n roll costarring Derrick Rose.

[drekwins]

Rose hurts defensive balance a lot more when he gets destroyed on every pick that he runs into. Dennis Schroeder and the Hawks put on a clinic on how to pick n roll costarring Derrick Rose.

You realize that it's the bigs job to stop that, right? The big has to hedge aggressively. Watch this clip, middle school coaching...

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He's not a good 1 on 1 defender but the bigs have to do better away from the hoop. Otherwise, we have no chance. That's a big reason why Duncan and KG played on such great defenses. They contained that guard and could recover to the roll guy.

[xNewYorkMadex]

ALways felt his biggest issue when attacking the basket is his inability to kick it back out to a shooter.

I really think he doesnt know how to make that type of pass. When he does make it, its often inaccurate. Ive noticed this before the season started so its not surprising, but hes always had a bad habit of jump passing. Which results in some of the dumbest turnovers.

Rose is just a bad bad PG. Hes only useful when hes actually hitting his floaters. When he isnt, just terrible. Rose and Jennings are just way too 1 dimensional which is again killing our PG production.

I'd much rather let Melo handle the rock when they are both in the game. I dont love Melo's bball iq, but its much better than Rose.

[Capn'O]

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“We’ve still got to trust our teammates,” Hornacek said on Friday. “If he drives in there and he’s open he takes the shot. If they collapse and they come in on him he’s got to be able to kick it out.

“We’ve got to be able to get him to the free-throw line. Get six, seven points at the free-throw line will help us. When he goes in there and doesn’t finish, the [other] team scores seems like 95 percent of the time when they go in the other direction. He’s out of the play, he’s underneath the basket and the other team is off to the races. We’ve got to either end the possession with a make or hopefully he gets fouled so we can set our defense.”

Maybe that's why Jose's defensive stats always measured out... well... not good... but better than you'd expect. Because lord knows he wasn't ever on the ground under the basket

[CJackson]

I'm sorry but attacking the basket only HELPS the Knicks. Drawing fouls, weakens the D. Stops the clock, while adding points. I argue, Rose doesn't attack enough!

DJ Jazzy Jeff wants to run that Phoenix garbage. Can't wait for this guy to go. He doesn't know what he wants.

In theory, yeah, attacking the basket helps...but he doesn't get fouled, the drawing fouls, stop clock, and adding point argument is non-existent. As for weakening the defense, he doesn't kick out of drives because of his tunnel vision (or only does it on occasion), so that's also not entirely true.

Also, "DJ Jazzy Jeff's" Phoenix offense was a north-south offense based on attacking the rim, not the "shoot a million threes and don't play defense" offense that I think you're referring to. So...again...you're wrong. The issue is the Knicks are in between his offense and the triangle, but most often that are caught running nothing. This team has no offense. Said it at the time that hiring Horny was a bad move. I don't think I got a single thing wrong this offseason (I even called Holiday becoming an impact player for us.)

You are batting a high percentage this season

[Mecca]

I'm sorry but attacking the basket only HELPS the Knicks. Drawing fouls, weakens the D. Stops the clock, while adding points. I argue, Rose doesn't attack enough!

DJ Jazzy Jeff wants to run that Phoenix garbage. Can't wait for this guy to go. He doesn't know what he wants.

In theory, yeah, attacking the basket helps...but he doesn't get fouled, the drawing fouls, stop clock, and adding point argument is non-existent. As for weakening the defense, he doesn't kick out of drives because of his tunnel vision (or only does it on occasion), so that's also not entirely true.

Also, "DJ Jazzy Jeff's" Phoenix offense was a north-south offense based on attacking the rim, not the "shoot a million threes and don't play defense" offense that I think you're referring to. So...again...you're wrong. The issue is the Knicks are in between his offense and the triangle, but most often that are caught running nothing. This team has no offense. Said it at the time that hiring Horny was a bad move. I don't think I got a single thing wrong this offseason (I even called Holiday becoming an impact player for us.)

It's mind blowing when you think that there is team of front office personnel that get paid to do this for a living, and here we are predicting the future in our free time on realgm.

[CJackson]

I'm sorry but attacking the basket only HELPS the Knicks. Drawing fouls, weakens the D. Stops the clock, while adding points. I argue, Rose doesn't attack enough!

DJ Jazzy Jeff wants to run that Phoenix garbage. Can't wait for this guy to go. He doesn't know what he wants.

In theory, yeah, attacking the basket helps...but he doesn't get fouled, the drawing fouls, stop clock, and adding point argument is non-existent. As for weakening the defense, he doesn't kick out of drives because of his tunnel vision (or only does it on occasion), so that's also not entirely true.

Also, "DJ Jazzy Jeff's" Phoenix offense was a north-south offense based on attacking the rim, not the "shoot a million threes and don't play defense" offense that I think you're referring to. So...again...you're wrong. The issue is the Knicks are in between his offense and the triangle, but most often that are caught running nothing. This team has no offense. Said it at the time that hiring Horny was a bad move. I don't think I got a single thing wrong this offseason (I even called Holiday becoming an impact player for us.)

It's mind blowing when you think that there is team of front office personnel that get paid to do this for a living, and here we are predicting the future in our free time on realgm.

Phil Jackson probably only eats take-out from Nobu whereas some of us can actually make a home-cooked meal