Trade Thread 2017: Not Once, Not twice, But Thrice!

[chrisab123]

Per the game thread, Smitty's source is saying C's could go all in one Butler and Milsap. That's a damn good team, but Cleveland would still kill them on the boards.

So what´s the latest? We would still be lacking a center there. I like both players but we would still have that glaring flaw at the defensive end.

He doesn't see them getting both. I'd rather pair Butler with Bogut, who costs less and has a rebounding percentage similar to Chandler, Gobert and Whiteside.

Roll Bogut, Horford, Butler, IT, and one of AB, Crowder or Smart out there versus Cleveland. That's a very good defensive team that won't get killed on the boards.

I must have missed something. I was in that game thread and he said it was highly unlikely both were coming. I don't think Danny has any interest in Millsap but that's just me.

[chrisab123]

Millsap and Butler is not enough. Butler and Cousins or Butler and Griffin would be the kind of moves that would put us in true contention.

That doesn't mean we should pass on trying to get Butler - just don't see Millsap as a fit.

With this team, getting one of Griffin or Cousins would do it in my opinion. Now if you want to deal Bradley and picks for Butler then it makes sense as well. That contract looks like a steal.

[chrisab123]

Yeah I was wondering about Dwight, too.

Aside from his diva attitude he's had a pretty damn good season thus far. Question is does Danny Ainge want to sacrifice assets + the ability to sign a max player in the offseason?

[fallguy]

Get ready for Brown being nasty for another team.

Brad doesnt seem to like the kid and the lovefest around Brad will end right after Brown turns into our own nasty nightmare.

Why would you say Stevens doesn't like Brown? Because he's had sporadic playing time his first two months in the league?

[BleedGreen1989]

Get ready for Brown being nasty for another team.

Brad doesnt seem to like the kid and the lovefest around Brad will end right after Brown turns into our own nasty nightmare.

Why would you say Stevens doesn't like Brown? Because he's had sporadic playing time his first two months in the league?

Yeah, some people don't grasp that rookies don't play much on good teams.

[BleedGreen1989]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

[Valid]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Olynyk is a seven-footer who can spread the floor, handle the ball and pass the rock. He is also a very solid defender, contrary to popular belief around here.

The dude has more value than this board thinks.

[fallguy]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Olynyk is a seven-footer who can spread the floor, handle the ball and pass the rock. He is also a very solid defender, contrary to popular belief around here.

The dude has more value than this board thinks.

Yeah, his D and passing are underrated while his shooting is increasingly overrated (now at 32.6% from the arc). He still draws defenders but he needs more makes. Single biggest frustration with him is anything he does off-the-bounce. I've never seen a 7-footer so eager to drive a closeout, dribble into the paint, turn his back and effectively kill his own advantage.

He's an important part of this year's team but I doubt he'll be back.

[Valid]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Olynyk is a seven-footer who can spread the floor, handle the ball and pass the rock. He is also a very solid defender, contrary to popular belief around here.

The dude has more value than this board thinks.

Yeah, his D and passing are underrated while his shooting is increasingly overrated (now at 32.6% from the arc). He still draws defenders but he needs more makes. Single biggest frustration with him is anything he does off-the-bounce. I've never seen a 7-footer so eager to drive a closeout, dribble into the paint, turn his back and effectively kill his own advantage.

He's an important part of this year's team but I doubt he'll be back.

To be fair, he is coming off shoulder surgery, so that could very well be affecting his stroke (and probably is).

[Celts17Pride]

Olynyk has a maximum of 46 regular season games left in a Celtics uniform. No sense arguing about him anymore. Deadman walking. Personally I think he is gone by the deadline

[ParticleMan]

KO is useful there's no sense just giving him away but someone will overpay for him this summer so if we can get real value in return we should runon sentence.

[FlatearthZorro]

Yeah I was wondering about Dwight, too.

Aside from his diva attitude he's had a pretty damn good season thus far. Question is does Danny Ainge want to sacrifice assets + the ability to sign a max player in the offseason?

I was thinking exactly the same. Dwight has had a good season and hasn't been a headache in ATL. No idea if they go for the rebuild this season with the young guys or wait for the summer to try and trade Dwight.

Problem with getting Dwight is that he'd be the final piece to this team as even if Danny clears out as much space as he can, he might have enough to sign a role player in the offseason(dwight makes 23 mils a year- nice contract under the new CBA).

[FlatearthZorro]

KO is useful there's no sense just giving him away but someone will overpay for him this summer so if we can get real value in return we should runon sentence.

Agreed. We should trade him as I don't see us paying him something crazy like 15/year.

[BleedGreen1989]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Olynyk is a seven-footer who can spread the floor, handle the ball and pass the rock. He is also a very solid defender, contrary to popular belief around here.

The dude has more value than this board thinks.

He also is a poor rebounder, not nearly aggressive enough to be a consistent option, and is set to get paid big time.

His value is lower than some on this board think.

[FlatearthZorro]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Olynyk is a seven-footer who can spread the floor, handle the ball and pass the rock. He is also a very solid defender, contrary to popular belief around here.

The dude has more value than this board thinks.

He also is a poor rebounder, not nearly aggressive enough to be a consistent option, and is set to get paid big time.

His value is lower than some on this board think.

I'd get in on Patterson if the Raps have to trade him in order to get Milsap. I think Patterson is having a bad season, but he's a great bench big and will cost us less than Kelly.

[Banks2Pierce]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Didn't you suggest acquiring Ryan Anderson every other week last season? Having a lot of trouble reconciling this.

[BleedGreen1989]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Didn't you suggest acquiring Ryan Anderson every other week last season? Having a lot of trouble reconciling this.

If it's Ryno at $20 and Kelly at $17, I'm taking Ryno every single time.

[Valid]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Olynyk is a seven-footer who can spread the floor, handle the ball and pass the rock. He is also a very solid defender, contrary to popular belief around here.

The dude has more value than this board thinks.

He also is a poor rebounder, not nearly aggressive enough to be a consistent option, and is set to get paid big time.

His value is lower than some on this board think.

You literally just listed one thing he is not so adept at, and it's rebounding. That's it.

Here's the thing, though: he is not being asked to be a rebounder. He is asked to spread the floor, hit some shots, make some passes and be in the right spots defensively. He does all of that.

His value is not "lower than some on this board think."

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Valid]

Real question,

When will we trade Olynyk and is he worth anything more than a couple 2nds ala Tim Hardaway?

Didn't you suggest acquiring Ryan Anderson every other week last season? Having a lot of trouble reconciling this.

If it's Ryno at $20 and Kelly at $17, I'm taking Ryno every single time.

Fun fact: Kelly Olynyk is a better rebounder than Ryan Anderson. Leagues better as a defender, too.