Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now

[BoomBap]

I really hope we trade Okafor AND Noel...soon!

[dorkestra]

I view Noel as an important part of our core.

Embiid
Simmons
Noel

[Unbreakable99]

Well so far it seems as if most people don't wan Noel to be traded and will keep him even if it costs near max money. Good to hear. I just wonder if Colangelo wants to do that. I really want rim protection for the entire game. Noel and Embiid give that to us. Noel is very valuable. And considering Okafor got booed last game it appears even the casual fans aren't fooled by Okafor's scoring and think he's a better player than Noel.

[CptCrunch]

Keep Noel and #FreeOkafor

[Skates]

Give me a pair of bigs that for 48 minutes protect the rim, blow up pick and rolls, run the floor and dont clog the lane during the time they are on the floor together and I am pretty damn happy.

[Stanford]

Trade Okafor for anything and keep Noel. He's really good.

[Sixerscan]

I LOVE the way Brett has been using Noel on offense btw. No isos, rarely being put in a situation where he has to put the ball on the floor or take a jumper (though he's been making them when he has to), lots of P&Rs and running the baseline. The baseline stuff actually provides spacing in a weird way because teams have to make sure he doesn't sneak in for a dunk. The end result has been really efficient so far (.646 TS%, 132 ORTG, only 1 turnover total in 9 games) He's getting the most out of a limited player.

[marcush]

If we can get a legit or likely starter at a position of need for Noel, then I wouldn't have a problem with the trade. I would slightly have that option rated higher than giving Nerlens the max. I just think that much of a concentration of resources on one position is a risk going forward.

Whatever happens with Noel, they need to trade Jah asap. You can see even the Prokafors have stopped post bombing every thread. So if those types are seeing how awful he is now then there can't be many FOs left who rate him.

If Noel gets traded, its Holmes who would be the beneficiary.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

See I think Holmes can be a great backup off the bench for Embiid, and he wouldn't cost what Noel would cost. However with the cap rise, paying Noel doesn't seem like such a daunting task. The other part of me wants to trade him, but our return would most certainly have to be a starting back court player, so all that ever leads to is speculation and imaginative fantasy trades. CJ McCollum has been my guy since last year. That hasn't changed and while Portland has insisted they aren't trading him, one only has to watch them to realize how atrocious the pairing of Lilliard/McCollum is defensively. Portland has Crabbe coming off the bench making starters money. At some point I think Portland may begin to bend on their stubborn stance they've taken with the Lilliard/CJ backcourt. I'm not sure what I'd offer for CJM....but I'd easily part with Noel, Okafor (whoever they prefer), and probably even the Lakers pick.

[eagereyez]

As of right now I'd rather trade Okafor and pay Noel. Okafor's value will only go down in the future, while Noel's will go up. Should have moved Okafor for the BKN pick when they had the chance. I still don't think Noel is a long-term piece on this team. I'll be surprised if he is still on the Sixers 3-5 years from now.

[LloydFree]

If we can get a legit or likely starter at a position of need for Noel, then I wouldn't have a problem with the trade. I would slightly have that option rated higher than giving Nerlens the max. I just think that much of a concentration of resources on one position is a risk going forward.

Whatever happens with Noel, they need to trade Jah asap. You can see even the Prokafors have stopped post bombing every thread. So if those types are seeing how awful he is now then there can't be many FOs left who rate him.

If Noel gets traded, its Holmes who would be the beneficiary.

The fans and media that were hold-outs seemed to stop when Embiid threw his support behind Noel after the 'Noel standing ovation' game. Front offices stopped rating him a long time ago, or else he would have been traded at the draft, before free agency.

[charliez88PL]

His trade value is at its peak right now.

Dude... again - I couldn't disagree more. Noel vaule is dropping down science drafting Embiid, after drafting Okafor it hits the bottom. I'm not sure we can get even 1st rounder for him now which is ridiculus.
It's good to see him playing again, but... honestly I was shocked that Brett doesnt appriciate him that much.

Everyone in this league thinks Nerlens is on the block... science I don't know - way too long.
I tell you something - he shouldn't be involved in trade talk unless it's about top3 pick, or players like Jimmy Butler.
So his trade value is still to low to sell.

I think it's extremely unfair.

To me - Nerlens not Joel is the face of 'the process' - science the begining he fought hard in D, and tried his best in O, he always wanted to be part of new 76ers.

To be fair - he never got a real chance. People was complaining about his poor ofensive game - but let's be honest - his not DMC, Embiid or Okafor type of player - he's more of Gobert/ Jordan type of player - he needs quality guards which can feed him. He can be first player in transition O and first in transition D.

Let's sit down for a second - Ish Smith was the best playmaker he ever played with @ NBA level and it was his best time in Philly. Look at last game with TJ... do you remember how Ben Simmons created Richaun in SL? Can you imagine what he can do with NN?

Okafor **** up our chemistry, he supposed to be our franchise player but he never was good enough to be + player in NBA. He took Nerlens position, than minutes... And he dindn't provided nothing in return.

Nerlens has top5 defensive potential in this league. He's fast, he can block the shots, he can guard switches, he can steal the ball + he can roll to the basket in offence and catch the lobs + he's capable passer and still - he got room to growth, but he needs quality guards in roster, good pick n roll player.

If Embiid is healthy he should play 30-36mpg, sometimes he will need rest. It leaves 18-12mins for Nerlens. I believe that they can play about 10-12mins together - it's about 25-30mpg for Nerlens. I think he deserves money because he fits to smallball basketball as a C, he will be quality C if Embiid gets injiured agin - we just NEED him.

Lets look at our payroll. If someone gives Nerlens money - we can match it - no one will give him max deal. 4yr deal doesnt hurts us much. We need to pay Embiid in 18/19, than Simmons 19/20. 20/21 will be last yr of Noel deal. If we draft this yr star player he will not bother us.

He played 9 games this yr. His ORTG is 132, DRTG 102 - BRETT - give him god damn credit, keep him. He is perfect fit for Simmons, Sarić, and any of top6 2017 draft guards.

it's time to get rid of Okafor.

[Ericb5]

i don't think Noel wants to play backup. if he's getting 30 minutes a game, along with a lucrative contract, it's possible he'd consider staying as an integral part of a contesting franchise. but we got so much talent at pf, and Holmes could easily cover 15 minutes a night of pure backup. still i hope Nerlens turns into the next Rodman and stays to do crazy good things for the team.

There is no way he can leave. He is a restricted free agent. His happiness is of marginal concern to us.

The real question is whether or not WE are happy to pay him what we will have to pay him if we can only find him 20 minutes a night.

If things continue to go well with Embiid, Simmons, and our 2017 picks then we will start winning, and winning tends to make everyone happier.


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[rzzzzz]

There is no way he can leave. He is a restricted free agent. His happiness is of marginal concern to us.

sure, we could hold onto him for another year, FWIW.

(but let's hope that things really work out, and that he is a real force on the floor 30+ minutes a night, and that he wants to stay. otherwise, why bother?)

[sixers hoops]

His trade value is at its peak right now.

Dude... again - I couldn't disagree more. Noel vaule is dropping down science drafting Embiid, after drafting Okafor it hits the bottom. I'm not sure we can get even 1st rounder for him now which is ridiculus.
It's good to see him playing again, but... honestly I was shocked that Brett doesnt appriciate him that much.

Everyone in this league thinks Nerlens is on the block... science I don't know - way too long.
I tell you something - he shouldn't be involved in trade talk unless it's about top3 pick, or players like Jimmy Butler.
So his trade value is still to low to sell.

I think it's extremely unfair.

To me - Nerlens not Joel is the face of 'the process' - science the begining he fought hard in D, and tried his best in O, he always wanted to be part of new 76ers.

To be fair - he never got a real chance. People was complaining about his poor ofensive game - but let's be honest - his not DMC, Embiid or Okafor type of player - he's more of Gobert/ Jordan type of player - he needs quality guards which can feed him. He can be first player in transition O and first in transition D.

Let's sit down for a second - Ish Smith was the best playmaker he ever played with @ NBA level and it was his best time in Philly. Look at last game with TJ... do you remember how Ben Simmons created Richaun in SL? Can you imagine what he can do with NN?

Okafor **** up our chemistry, he supposed to be our franchise player but he never was good enough to be + player in NBA. He took Nerlens position, than minutes... And he dindn't provided nothing in return.

Nerlens has top5 defensive potential in this league. He's fast, he can block the shots, he can guard switches, he can steal the ball + he can roll to the basket in offence and catch the lobs + he's capable passer and still - he got room to growth, but he needs quality guards in roster, good pick n roll player.

If Embiid is healthy he should play 30-36mpg, sometimes he will need rest. It leaves 18-12mins for Nerlens. I believe that they can play about 10-12mins together - it's about 25-30mpg for Nerlens. I think he deserves money because he fits to smallball basketball as a C, he will be quality C if Embiid gets injiured agin - we just NEED him.

Lets look at our payroll. If someone gives Nerlens money - we can match it - no one will give him max deal. 4yr deal doesnt hurts us much. We need to pay Embiid in 18/19, than Simmons 19/20. 20/21 will be last yr of Noel deal. If we draft this yr star player he will not bother us.

He played 9 games this yr. His ORTG is 132, DRTG 102 - BRETT - give him god damn credit, keep him. He is perfect fit for Simmons, Sarić, and any of top6 2017 draft guards.

it's time to get rid of Okafor.

That was my point earlier in the thread. He eclipsed 12 minutes about 3 or 4 times since coming back from a benching, and his value is at its "peak?" I think his value could get way higher if we give him regular minutes.

[BullyKing]

Having read the poll options, I hope you have a job where you get paid by the word.

What is that supposed to mean?

He's poking fun of the fact that you eschewed the commonly accepted principle that one should employ an economy of language in expressing oneself by choosing those words that convey the desired thought as directly as possible so as to avoid unnecessarily verbose written expressions.

[CoreyGallagher]

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[Sixersftw]

Well it was going so well. Time for all that to explode.

[Unbreakable99]

Having read the poll options, I hope you have a job where you get paid by the word.

What is that supposed to mean?

He's poking fun of the fact that you eschewed the commonly accepted principle that one should employ an economy of language in expressing oneself by choosing those words that convey the desired thought as directly as possible so as to avoid unnecessarily verbose written expressions.

He hasn't responded to my question so I'll just wait for him to answer. It's pretty telling he can't answer a question though.

[hookshot199]

I disagree with the premises of your poll. We should keep Noel because he's going to be a 30-32 minute/game player who will play both 4 and 5 and be a core player on playoff team.

I also believe that our picks will be 6 and 7 this June. We're going to pass Miami, Dallas, Phoenix and possibly Minnesota and the Lakers. We'll still get a good pick because it's a deep draft, but quite possibly not one of the primo point guards.