GT: Philadelphia 76ers @ Barclays Center - Sunday, 1/8/17 12:00pm.

[Prokorov]

Prok, I have some issues with this game. Why such a crappy 3Q? The team was up at the half. Also, Embiid was on minutes restrictions. What about Brook only getting 2 boards? And the TOs. I'll give Isiah some leeway because he's a rookie, but SKil's weren't good and in general, we do them in bunches as a team.

There can be some questions about KA's ability to get the team ready for the 3Q as well. I think that's fair. I'm still OK with Kenny, but he has to take some scrutiny at this point in the season.

How do you prepare a bad team to be good? Turnovers happen when you have all poor ball handlers. Bad defense happens when you have mostly awful defenders

People act like this is some major upset lost. We are no better then philly. Their d isn't as terrible as ours is.

Asking a team of bench players to put together four solid quarters of basketball is a tall task


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Problem is he plays d-leaguers in front of bench players with potential

No he doesn't

Benner is a scrub who will be packing grocery bags in Canada soon.


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[Prokorov]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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[TooBad]

Bennett is trash who wouldn't be the fourth best player on our dleague squad

People blaming Kenny need to come to grips this team is the least talented in the league. The hero worship of 2 or the guys and throwing everyone else under the bus is annoying.




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Bennett hasn't even shot well from 3, which is the shot he take the most, and he's got a Per of 15. He's more deserving of minutes than about 7-8 ppl in front of him in the rotation right now. The only players on this team who are decent are Lopez, Lin, Booker, Levert, and recently Hamilton. I like jefferson as a 2-3 as well but he's brutal at the four. I would put money on it that Bennett would be better statistically than Booker if they swapped roles by the end of the season.

You keep parroting 15 per like that's good. Who cares what crap stats Benner gets? He is soft plays super small can't finish amand doesn't defend.


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Considering his Per was on an upward trend each game when he was playing consistent minutes and our franchise players Lopez has a Per of 21...yeah that's pretty good

[Paradise]

I hope everyone realizes Whitehead nearly about the same as Brandon Ingram and Buddy Hield in points and rebounds. He actually averages a higher field goal percentage than both. He's 21, folks. Some kids get it faster than others. Rondae applies to that as well.

He was always considered a combo guard. He can make plays but he also has a propensity for turnovers due to his style of basketball.

His efficiency has to improve which was one of his biggest weaknesses that made him slide into the second round. Everyone mentions he averaged 48% from the field at seton hall. Yes, he did but he's right now he is averaging 41% from the field and within less games than at Seton Hall. He's doing it in 28 games thus far. He's really shown no reason to doubt he can develop into at least a solid two way player.

This is a rebuild. Lin is signed here to be apart of a rebuilding situation. Like it or not. I can't speak for anyone else but I am pleased with the progress of our mini nucleus. We've seen career highs from each player. McCullough is leading the LI Nets to a potential playoff birth and would be the first D-league expansion team to make the NBDL playoffs.

A winning culture. When Lopez/Bojan get heavily criticized it's because us long time fans have seen them both do the same things over and over for 4+ seasons. It's losing basketball.

Whitehead and RHJ have done things Bojan and Lopez have never done a day in their lives as Nets even dating back to their rookie seasons.

I understand everyone wanted to see Jeremy Lin lead us to 45 wins and go to against LeBron in the ECF and Lin hits the game winner before Lopez dunks on Kevin Love. Sounds nice and dandy but let's step out of fantasy island and realize this is what it is. We are a rebuilding team.

Nets fans are used to losing uninspired basketball with a high payroll, cockteases of a good team and a second rounder that is as useful as a broken dishwasher. Let's be mindful of that.

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[TooBad]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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Sorry it is difficult for us Bennett fans to grasp the development concept when one of your top prospects who has shown real improvement is being benched while a d-leaguer with the worst PER in the league for players averaging over 20 mins is consistently in the starting lineup...Yup I can't grasp that sorry...In fact i'm starting to wonder if the definition of development changed recently.

[Prokorov]

Bennett hasn't even shot well from 3, which is the shot he take the most, and he's got a Per of 15. He's more deserving of minutes than about 7-8 ppl in front of him in the rotation right now. The only players on this team who are decent are Lopez, Lin, Booker, Levert, and recently Hamilton. I like jefferson as a 2-3 as well but he's brutal at the four. I would put money on it that Bennett would be better statistically than Booker if they swapped roles by the end of the season.

You keep parroting 15 per like that's good. Who cares what crap stats Benner gets? He is soft plays super small can't finish amand doesn't defend.


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Considering his Per was on an upward trend each game when he was playing consistent minutes and our franchise players Lopez has a Per of 21...yeah that's pretty good

15 is below league average and not good

It also doesn't measure defense. If he doesn't hit threes at a high rate he provides nothing


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[Prokorov]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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Sorry it is difficult for us Bennett fans to grasp the development concept when one of your top prospects who has shown real improvement is being benched while a d-leaguer with the worst PER in the league for players averaging over 20 mins is consistently in the starting lineup...Yup I can't grasp that sorry...In fact i'm starting to wonder if the definition of development changed recently.

Bennet isn't a prospect. He a bust who couldn't cut it with three other teams. He is lucky he is even still in the NBA let alone getting minutes.

No one cares about per for second round pick rookies in year one


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[TooBad]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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Sorry it is difficult for us Bennett fans to grasp the development concept when one of your top prospects who has shown real improvement is being benched while a d-leaguer with the worst PER in the league for players averaging over 20 mins is consistently in the starting lineup...Yup I can't grasp that sorry...In fact i'm starting to wonder if the definition of development changed recently.

Bennet isn't a prospect. He a bust who couldn't cut it with three other teams. He is lucky he is even still in the NBA let alone getting minutes.

No one cares about per for second round pick rookies in year one


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How is he not a prospect he's hardly had a chance in this league. He was injured for the first 2 seasons, couldn't crack the raptors roster because they weren't developing young players. This is honestly the first season where he hasn't been out of shape or injured. Funny thing is that he almost has the same PER as Andrew Wiggins and Wiggins was way more hyped than him. Bennett was never supposed to go #1.

[Prokorov]

Sorry it is difficult for us Bennett fans to grasp the development concept when one of your top prospects who has shown real improvement is being benched while a d-leaguer with the worst PER in the league for players averaging over 20 mins is consistently in the starting lineup...Yup I can't grasp that sorry...In fact i'm starting to wonder if the definition of development changed recently.

Bennet isn't a prospect. He a bust who couldn't cut it with three other teams. He is lucky he is even still in the NBA let alone getting minutes.

No one cares about per for second round pick rookies in year one


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Funny thing is that he almost has the same PER as Andrew Wiggins and Wiggins was way more hyped than him. Bennett was never supposed to go #1.

Who cares?

Wiggins plays more with higher usage has less experience more upside and skill.

Bennet having a bad per in limited playing time is meaningless. All he has shown with the nets is that he can't finish, plays small and soft and doesn't defend




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[Roy Tarpley]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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What an asinine and arrogant comment. You can develop a team AND play up to your potential -- they're not mutually exclusive. The Nets don't have much talent but they're not as bad as today showed, and everyone -- including players, coaches, rookies, performance team -- has to be accountable. There must be a standard of performance, and being a rookie player or head coach does not absolve you of all accountability.

The Nets suck but they're not so bad that they're going to go 0-47 the rest of the way. They're good enough to win several more games so it's a moronic statement to say people are crying over losses "when we have no business winning". Playing the Sixers at home is game that we have the "business" of winning.

I feel sad for "real" fans that have been beaten down so bad that they've developed a learned helplessness and berate others for having a different point of view.

[TooBad]

Bennet isn't a prospect. He a bust who couldn't cut it with three other teams. He is lucky he is even still in the NBA let alone getting minutes.

No one cares about per for second round pick rookies in year one


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Funny thing is that he almost has the same PER as Andrew Wiggins and Wiggins was way more hyped than him. Bennett was never supposed to go #1.

Who cares?

Wiggins plays more with higher usage has less experience more upside and skill.

Bennet having a bad per in limited playing time is meaningless. All he has shown with the nets is that he can't finish, plays small and soft and doesn't defend




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?Bennett is 57% for 2pt Fg% how is that not finishing? Also, Wiggins has played 7177 minutes in this league, Bennett has played 1905...Wiggins has over 3 times the experience

[Prokorov]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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What an asinine and arrogant comment. You can develop a team AND play up to your potential -- they're not mutually exclusive. The Nets don't have much talent but they're not as bad as today showed, and everyone -- including players, coaches, rookies, performance team -- has to be accountable. There must be a standard of performance, and being a rookie player or head coach does not absolve you of all accountability.

The Nets suck but they're not so bad that they're going to go 0-47 the rest of the way. They're good enough to win several more games so it's a moronic statement to say people are crying over losses "when we have no business winning". Playing the Sixers at home is game that we have the "business" of winning.

I feel sad for "real" fans that have been beaten down so bad that they've developed a learned helplessness and berate others for having a different point of view.

This is the teams potential. 20ish wins like vegas and espn projected.

Team is having a great season based on what they needed to achieve. Building a culture of hard work and effort. Installing modern systems built off analytics. The infrastructure is put in place. The talent will take a while

If Lin or Bennet fans don't like it they can gtfo


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[Roy Tarpley]

Dumb statements are not exclusive to new fans or real fans or old fans or faux fans. Saying Bennett is the team's 4th best player because he has the 4th highest PER in limited minutes is pretty dumb.

[hood30]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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What an asinine and arrogant comment. You can develop a team AND play up to your potential -- they're not mutually exclusive. The Nets don't have much talent but they're not as bad as today showed, and everyone -- including players, coaches, rookies, performance team -- has to be accountable. There must be a standard of performance, and being a rookie player or head coach does not absolve you of all accountability.

The Nets suck but they're not so bad that they're going to go 0-47 the rest of the way. They're good enough to win several more games so it's a moronic statement to say people are crying over losses "when we have no business winning". Playing the Sixers at home is game that we have the "business" of winning.

I feel sad for "real" fans that have been beaten down so bad that they've developed a learned helplessness and berate others for having a different point of view.

Exactly...Finishing dead last in the league will hurt the Nets prospect as for free agents and hurt whatever culture they want to build.

The good thing is that I do sense Kenny is getting angry at the current situation which is great and I do believe once Lin is back, we will see drastic changes...At the current moment, Kenny simply has no choice and he's boxed into a corner where he's forced to play players because he lacks decent options.

[Roy Tarpley]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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What an asinine and arrogant comment. You can develop a team AND play up to your potential -- they're not mutually exclusive. The Nets don't have much talent but they're not as bad as today showed, and everyone -- including players, coaches, rookies, performance team -- has to be accountable. There must be a standard of performance, and being a rookie player or head coach does not absolve you of all accountability.

The Nets suck but they're not so bad that they're going to go 0-47 the rest of the way. They're good enough to win several more games so it's a moronic statement to say people are crying over losses "when we have no business winning". Playing the Sixers at home is game that we have the "business" of winning.

I feel sad for "real" fans that have been beaten down so bad that they've developed a learned helplessness and berate others for having a different point of view.

This is the teams potential. 20ish wins like vegas and espn projected.

Team is having a great season based on what they needed to achieve. Building a culture of hard work and effort. Installing modern systems built off analytics. The infrastructure is put in place. The talent will take a while

If Lin or Bennet fans don't like it they can gtfo


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Even assuming 20ish wins is the team's potential, that means the Nets should be winning 12 more games. One of these 12 should have been the Sixers (the team with the second worst record) at home. So it NOT unreasonable to have critical comments for not beating the Sixers. This has nothing to do with Lin or Bennett fans.

[Prokorov]

This is the BS everyone warned us real fans about. That everyone would be blamed for poor play. The franchise was honest and told us this was going to be a long painful process and that this year is about development not wins

But some people, mostly those who are worshipers of Lin or Bennet can't grasp that concept, or even worse grasp it but think it's dumb because somehow this team should go all out to win now despite having like a 30 win season.

Really hope Lin and Bennet get dealt so we don't have to constantly get the crying over losses and throwing every player coach and the gym under the bus for losses when we have no business winning bs anyone with by far the least talent in the league


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What an asinine and arrogant comment. You can develop a team AND play up to your potential -- they're not mutually exclusive. The Nets don't have much talent but they're not as bad as today showed, and everyone -- including players, coaches, rookies, performance team -- has to be accountable. There must be a standard of performance, and being a rookie player or head coach does not absolve you of all accountability.

The Nets suck but they're not so bad that they're going to go 0-47 the rest of the way. They're good enough to win several more games so it's a moronic statement to say people are crying over losses "when we have no business winning". Playing the Sixers at home is game that we have the "business" of winning.

I feel sad for "real" fans that have been beaten down so bad that they've developed a learned helplessness and berate others for having a different point of view.

Exactly...Finishing dead last in the league will hurt the Nets prospect as for free agents and hurt whatever culture they want to build. It's also becoming a toxic situation to be in and who would want to come there to make this motion offense works where good players are necessary since it is a balanced system that requires everyone to handle and create.

The good thing is that I do sense Kenny is getting angry at the current situation which is great and I do believe once Lin is back, we will see drastic changes.

Finishing with 20 wins vs 28 won't matter for free agency. Players and coaches already notice the culture change and have commented on it. It's clear the direction and people are taking note. Three players took our Rfa offer so there is some interest.

Also free agency not important right now. This is at least a five year turnaround.

We won't see drastic change since this is the plan and it's working extremely well. Wins aren't the goal, building the culture and infrastructure is.




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[TooBad]

Dumb statements are not exclusive to new fans or real fans or old fans or faux fans. Saying Bennett is the team's 4th best player because he has the 4th highest PER in limited minutes is pretty dumb.

I said that to make a point that he should at the very least be getting real rotation minutes.PER is the most common stat for assessing players and he scores well. He has been much more efficient when playing real minutes vs garbage minutes. I don't know where he actually sits on the team in terms of "Best player" but there I could definitely make an argument that he's up there. He's a hard player to assess because he has never been given the chance that every #1 pick before him has gotten. He was looking good when he's playing and now he's benched...i don't get it especially when we get killed by the worst teams

[Roy Tarpley]

Dumb statements are not exclusive to new fans or real fans or old fans or faux fans. Saying Bennett is the team's 4th best player because he has the 4th highest PER in limited minutes is pretty dumb.

I said that to make a point that he should at the very least be getting real rotation minutes.PER is the most common stat for assessing players and he scores well. He has been much more efficient when playing real minutes vs garbage minutes. I don't know where he actually sits on the team in terms of "Best player" but there I could definitely make an argument that he's up there. He's a hard player to assess because he has never been given the chance that every #1 pick before him has gotten. He was looking good when he's playing and now he's benched...i don't get it especially when we get killed by the worst teams

I see what you're saying. I agree that Bennett seems to have the tightest leash and the rationale for KA's rotation is unclear.

If this year is really about development, why not play Bennett more over, say, Lopez? If the team can stomach 7 TOs from Whitehead, than it can surely stomach some botched defensive assignments from Bennett.

[qiantom]

Whitehead is playing a lot because of injuries and it is a necessity now. If Lin and Vasquez did not get injured, he probably would have played only in garbage time.


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