"BLOW IT ALL UP! THE SKY IS FALLING!"

GSR121 · Post #1 » by **GSR121** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:36 am

My thoughts are that this team is fundamentally flawed and can not win a championship as it is constructed now. We have too many players with different playing styles that just don't mesh. I am not sure if we can make minor adjustment and fix this. I think we need to make some major changes... O.K. not really!!! Seriously,I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD OR COULD DO THIS!!! But IS fun to think about! I am kidding!!! But just for fun here is my "BLOW IT ALL UP! THE SKY IS FALLING!" plan.

First trade.

DET out: Drummond

BOS out: Johnson, Jerebko, Young, BRK 2017 1st, future Bos 1st, and one of the MEM or LAC picks in 2018

It helps Boston challenge for the title now and cuts a TON of money off the cap next season as all of the incoming players are expiring. Oh, the picks are good too!

Trade two.

DET out: Jackson and Johnson

PHL out: Noel and PHL 2017 1st

Might just be the best deal Philly gets for Noel. We get more cap room and another 2017 1st plus Noel to replace Drummond.

Trade three.

DET out: Harris, Baynes

DEN Out: Nurkic, Barton, and the Memphis 1st that is owed to them (6-30 2017).

Denver is shopping both players. We get two young players and a pick plus more cap space.

In the end we end up with:

Leuer PF/C
Boban C
Smith PG
Morris SF/PF
KCP SG
Bullock SG/SF
Ellenson PF
Udrih PG
Hilliard SG/SF
Gbinije SG/SF
A. Johnson (BOS) PF/C
Jerebko (BOS) SF/PF
Young (BOS) SG
Noel (PHL) C
Barton (DEN) SG/SF
Nurkic (DEN) PF/C

That is one too many players but releasing Young would solve that. Plus we remove the top three highest salaries from our books. That frees up 60 million of cap space (after figuring in Nurkic's and Barton's salaries and Noel's qualifying offer). We will have a HUGE hole at PG and questions at center, but lots of resources to solve them. We will have added two good young prospects in Barton and Nurkic, not to mention 4 first round picks in what is being touted as the best draft in a long time. Three of those picks should be lotto picks (PHL, BRK, and DET after this mess is over!) with two probably being in the top five (PHL, BRK).

Potential free agent PG's 2017

Kyle Lowry

Jeff Teague

George Hill

I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD OR COULD DO THIS!!! But it's cold. The Pistons are playing like poop and we can all use a (in?)sanity break. So I am challenging all of you to come up with YOUR "BLOW IT ALL UP! THE SKY IS FALLING!" plan, and post it here! Let's have some fun!
No serious scenarios allowed!!!

JohnReese · Post #2 » by **JohnReese** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:33 am

Please, switch off the ps4 when you finish with your trades.

Blkbrd671 · Post #3 » by **Blkbrd671** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:52 am

So do posters just go . F* the Trade Thread???

GSR121 · Post #4 » by **GSR121** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:45 pm

Blkbrd671 wrote:So do posters just go . F* the Trade Thread???

Well I figured the trade thread was for serious trades NOT for unrealistic "just for fun" stuff like this. I figured there was no need to fill that thread up with this kind of stuff.

GSR121 · Post #5 » by **GSR121** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:50 pm

JohnReese wrote:Please, switch off the ps4 when you finish with your trades.

IT was intended to be a joke! And give people a place to put this kind of crazy homer stuff in just to break up the monotony. I even said so in the post... twice! Try reading ALL of the post next time before criticizing, it was supposed to be unrealistic! That was the IDEA!

ImHeisenberg · Post #6 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:13 pm

Ridiculous trades.

Regardless of that fact. The reality is, if you don't have one of the top 5 players in the league, you have about zero chance of being a real contender. That's why nobody takes Toronto seriously, even though they tear it up in the regular season.

People knocked "The Process" in Philadelphia, and I understand the reasoning. Most fans don't want a team that is effectively designed to not be competitive. But, Sam Hinkie knew his team wasn't going to be a legitimate contender unless he got a player that would eventually be a top 5 player.

A treadmill playoff team is our ceiling. And, really, that isn't the worst thing in the world. Gores gets some playoff revenue, casual fans can enjoy a couple home game in the playoffs. But, this team is capped out with a low ceiling.

DetPistons04 · Post #7 » by **DetPistons04** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:45 pm

GSR121 wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:So do posters just go . F* the Trade Thread???

Well I figured the trade thread was for serious trades NOT for unrealistic "just for fun" stuff like this. I figured there was no need to fill that thread up with this kind of stuff.

This doesn't sound "fun" at all to me lol

Blkbrd671 · Post #8 » by **Blkbrd671** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:45 pm

GSR121 wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:So do posters just go . F* the Trade Thread???

Well I figured the trade thread was for serious trades NOT for unrealistic "just for fun" stuff like this. I figured there was no need to fill that thread up with this kind of stuff.

have you actually read the trade thread, also when are any of the trades we propose "serious". Just giving you sh* on my previous comment, and i am definitely being hypocritical to that point

jakebernat · Post #9 » by **jakebernat** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:24 am

ImHeisenberg wrote:A treadmill playoff team is our ceiling. And, really, that isn't the worst thing in the world. Gores gets some playoff revenue, casual fans can enjoy a couple home game in the playoffs. But, this team is capped out with a low ceiling.

Yeesh, what every happened to optimism?? lol

All joking aside, this line of thinking is certainly justified. The team failed to build off an encouraging season and has seemingly taken a step or two backwards.

HOWEVER,

We DO have pieces of a very high-quality team. Reggie and Andre make for one of the best 1-5 combos in the league. KCP is proving himself to be one of the top 2-way players in the league. Leuer is a very solid piece that analytic nerds adore. Tobias looks tailor-made for the 6th man role as he has been flourishing. Hell, even if nothing else, Stanimal has shown that he is capable of guarding 3, sometimes 4 positions very well.

So I guess what I'm getting at is that I disagree. We've underachieved this far, absolutely, but to say that this team has a low ceiling with little chance to improve, considering our youth and growth potential, is a bit short-sighted.

ImHeisenberg · Post #10 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:38 am

Spoiler:

That's fine if you disagree. I never said the team is terrible, just that their ceiling for success doesn't lie in the NBA finals. They'll probably finish somewhere between 7th and 9th this year.

Manocad · Post #11 » by **Manocad** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:49 pm

Just for fun trade:

Detroit Pistons out: the Detroit Pistons
Detroit Pistons in: the Golden State Warriors

Golden State Warriors out: the Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors in: the Detroit Pistons

CHAMPIONSHIP!

MrBigShot · Post #12 » by **MrBigShot** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:50 pm

Yo OP just come forward and tell us it's a prank man, it's not too late.

Manocad wrote:Just for fun trade:

Detroit Pistons out: the Detroit Pistons
Detroit Pistons in: the Golden State Warriors

Golden State Warriors out: the Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors in: the Detroit Pistons

CHAMPIONSHIP!

Hey what's up mano? I thought you were gone for good after that goodbye post.

pistontr · Post #13 » by **pistontr** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:26 am

drummond is the only player to watch in thişs team. he is underrated offensviely. but he may be the worst defensive center in the game. so we need a good defender amd shooter next to him. it is ibaka.
get rid of jackson, just a ball hog, not a point guard.
get shooters and lock down defenders. I am not a fan of kcp but he has improved his 3 point shooting. if he gave up huge money he wants, that's ok, otherwise get another 3-d guy. it is easy to find.
we need a pick and roll point guard and a secondary ball handler. so I basically define orlando team which was coached by svg. if that team had a better point guard than nelson, howard would be there right now.

pistontr · Post #14 » by **pistontr** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:27 am

a person who thinks that this team can be a contender is an idiot.

El Chivo · Post #15 » by **El Chivo** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:11 am

pistontr wrote:otherwise get another 3-d guy. it is easy to find.

cheap 3-d guy everywhere, right.

pistontr · Post #16 » by **pistontr** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:34 am

El Chivo wrote:
pistontr wrote:otherwise get another 3-d guy. it is easy to find.

cheap 3-d guy everywhere, right.

yes.

pistontr · Post #17 » by **pistontr** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:54 pm

We are 8-16 against .500 and above

Canadafan · Post #18 » by **Canadafan** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:38 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:Ridiculous trades.

Regardless of that fact. The reality is, if you don't have one of the top 5 players in the league, you have about zero chance of being a real contender. That's why nobody takes Toronto seriously, even though they tear it up in the regular season.

People knocked "The Process" in Philadelphia, and I understand the reasoning. Most fans don't want a team that is effectively designed to not be competitive. But, Sam Hinkie knew his team wasn't going to be a legitimate contender unless he got a player that would eventually be a top 5 player.

A treadmill playoff team is our ceiling. And, really, that isn't the worst thing in the world. Gores gets some playoff revenue, casual fans can enjoy a couple home game in the playoffs. But, this team is capped out with a low ceiling.

Let's expand that to top 10. So who's on the top 10 list in the NBA and who should we target for trade

1.Lebron
2.Durant
3.Curry(screw u warriors)
4.Leonard(cause Kawhi or Kahwi doesn't look right)
5.Westbrook
6.Harden
7.Paul George
8.Kyrie(screw u Cavs)
9.Butler
10.?

So George or Jimmy are the only maybe available guys.
SJ+2017 unprotected 1st+2019 unprotected 1st+Ellenson+Tobias is about the best we could offer

ImHeisenberg · Post #19 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:04 pm

Spoiler:

I'd put Cousins in the top 10.

None of those players are legitimately available. We've heard murmurs, but I'd imagine that the asking price is probably so high right now that no team is willing to pay the price.

Canadafan · Post #20 » by **Canadafan** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:27 pm

Ya true. Cousins. Don't want him though.
Eff it all lol just keep our young players and draft picks and hope we catch fire with one of them. We're still super young and gonna improve. Growing pains suck though