Political Roundtable Part XI

[Dat2U]

Central "Intelligence" Agency

Should we necessarily believe anything coming from the scum on 4chan though?

[AFM]

Central "Intelligence" Agency

Should we necessarily believe anything coming from the scum on 4chan though?

I mean, they are really racist and *word I can't use here*, but everything is timestamped. Original posts talking about this were Nov 1 16.

[FAH1223]

Read on Twitter

[NatP4]

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/106527008

LOL, I can't believe CNN actually believes this schiet...

There are a few CNN journalists that are probably going crazy with what's going on there. I rmemeber on election night, John King had his fancy bells and whistles county-by-county map, and he was trying to offer serious analysis of Clinton's or Trump's chances in particular areas, and Wolf Blitzer kept interrupting him like a bossy little kid, wanting to cut to the "will Clinton win?" chase. You could see in King's face that he felt disrespected and it looked really unprofessional to me. Some journalists that don't like Trump nonetheless understand that life and their jobs continue regardless, but there almost seems to be a mandate from above (similar to what I've seen at Fox in the past). Maybe they're getting good ratings with all these red herrings.

Keep in mind this was originally leaked by Buzzfeed. Here's their email:

Even they admit "there is serious reason to doubt the allegations."

But they don't hesitate to publish it while the entire twitter universe is looking to take whatever anti trump reports they can find, regardless of validity, and run with it?

Sigh

[nate33]

Keep in mind this was originally leaked by Buzzfeed. Here's their email:

Even they admit "there is serious reason to doubt the allegations."

But they don't hesitate to publish it while the entire twitter universe is looking to take whatever anti trump reports they can find, regardless of validity, and run with it?

Sigh

Is Buzzfeed on the list of "fake news" sites?

Man, the media has never been less credible. It has become a joke.

[nate33]

Airport Shooter Converted to Islam, Identified as Aashiq Hammad Years Before Joining Army

Amazing! What are the odds?

[Wizardspride]

The intelligence agencies are still standing by the belief that the Russians have compromising info on Trump according to reports.

[Wizardspride]

Watch on YouTube

[tontoz]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

[dckingsfan]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

I agree in a sense. But I am happy the documents were leaked - even if they weren't fully substantiated. Know we know what those in congress that had access were looking at...

I get the feeling (unproven) that Trump is compromised. I think it will take years to substantiate but in the end it will be substantiated.

In reading - it is pretty clear that Trump is even nastier that I thought he was. That part doesn't need to be proven - we knew he was nasty all along.

[dckingsfan]

And now we know why Obama didn't want to stay in Trump hotels

[nate33]

U.S. Cities Experienced Another Big Rise In Murder In 2016
By Jeff Asher of the Five-Thirty-Eight Blog

Murder almost certainly increased substantially in the U.S. in 2016, one year after it rose at its fastest pace in a quarter century.

The government won’t release official 2016 crime statistics for another nine months. But data from individual police departments indicates that murder rose in most of the country’s biggest cities in 2016, in some cases dramatically. Because a large share of murders take place in big cities, a substantial increase there means that the country’s overall murder total almost certainly rose as well.

Using a combination of official police data and local media reports, I was able to collect murder counts through at least November 2016 for 73 of the 83 U.S. cities with populations above 250,000, and partial data for all but one of the rest.2 The counts are preliminary and could be subject to change before they are submitted to the FBI for inclusion in the Uniform Crime Report that will be published in September.

This year’s rise appears slightly smaller than last year’s dramatic increase. The big cities experienced roughly a 11.3 percent increase in murder in 2016, which is down from the same group’s 14.8 percent increase from 2014 to 2015. Still, the figures suggest that big cities have seen murder rise by more than a quarter in just two years, likely the biggest two-year increase since 1989 to 1991.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/u-s-cities-experienced-another-big-rise-in-murder-in-2016/

[tontoz]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

I agree in a sense. But I am happy the documents were leaked - even if they weren't fully substantiated. Know we know what those in congress that had access were looking at...

I get the feeling (unproven) that Trump is compromised. I think it will take years to substantiate but in the end it will be substantiated.

In reading - it is pretty clear that Trump is even nastier that I thought he was. That part doesn't need to be proven - we knew he was nasty all along.

Pretty hard to blackmail a guy who throws lies around like confetti. Trump routinely goes out of his way to piss people off and has no shame lying to get out of a jam. It is easier to blackmail someone who actually cares about their reputation.

[nate33]

Pretty hard to blackmail a guy who throws lies around like confetti. Trump routinely goes out of his way to piss people off and has no shame lying to get out of a jam. It is easier to blackmail someone who actually cares about their reputation.

I had a similar thought. I don't see Trump being blackmailed by allegations of "golden showers". Trump would be like: "I get the best golden showers! The BEST! Those other golden shower providers are amateurs!"

[dckingsfan]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

I agree in a sense. But I am happy the documents were leaked - even if they weren't fully substantiated. Know we know what those in congress that had access were looking at...

I get the feeling (unproven) that Trump is compromised. I think it will take years to substantiate but in the end it will be substantiated.

In reading - it is pretty clear that Trump is even nastier that I thought he was. That part doesn't need to be proven - we knew he was nasty all along.

Pretty hard to blackmail a guy who throws lies around like confetti. Trump routinely goes out of his way to piss people off and has no shame lying to get out of a jam. It is easier to blackmail someone who actually cares about their reputation.

True - but that depends on what they have

For instance if Russia has something that shows that he conspired with a foreign government - that would be treason.

Punishable by death? Even Trump would care about that... well, maybe not,

[closg00]

The intelligence agencies are still standing by the belief that the Russians have compromising info on Trump according to reports.

It all makes sense now, the Russian mafia bailed Trump out of one of his bankruptcies. Trump, a man who is reckless with facts and embraces all kinds of conspiracy theories, but bizarrely sides with Russia against his own Intelligence Agencies. How-soon before President Pence is sworn-in?

[Wizardspride]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

To be fair, what evidence would you like to see exactly?

I mean it's fine to be skeptical but realistically you know they're not going to release classified info.

Not willing to give up their collection methods/sources...and I wouldn't expect them to honestly.

I mean ultimately you need to have a certain amount of belief in our intelligence services or this is all pointless.

Now if you don't that's fine...but if that is the case, more than likely there's nothing they could do to persuade you anyway.

[tontoz]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

To be fair, what evidence would you like to see exactly?

I mean it's fine to be skeptical but realistically you know they're not going to release classified info.

Not willing to give up their collection methods/sources...and I wouldn't expect them to honestly.

I mean ultimately you need to have a certain amount of belief in our intelligence services or this is all pointless.

Now if you don't that's fine...but if that is the case, more than likely there's nothing they could do to persuade you anyway.

Nonsense. If it was classified then they wouldn't be talking about it at all. Period. They can't have it both ways, making all these claims and then hide behind "it's classified" when asked for evidence.

I believe the real reason they won't release it is because it would be subject to cross examination.

Our 'intelligence" agencies were telling us about Iraq's WMD and ties to Al Qaeda which led us to a war which was an epic disaster. Show me what you got or STFU.

[Wizardspride]

They just keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks, but of course they won't release the details because it's "classified".

Show me some evidence or just shut up.

To be fair, what evidence would you like to see exactly?

I mean it's fine to be skeptical but realistically you know they're not going to release classified info.

Not willing to give up their collection methods/sources...and I wouldn't expect them to honestly.

I mean ultimately you need to have a certain amount of belief in our intelligence services or this is all pointless.

Now if you don't that's fine...but if that is the case, more than likely there's nothing they could do to persuade you anyway.

Nonsense. If it was classified then they wouldn't be talking about it at all. Period. They can't have it both ways, making all these claims and then hide behind "it's classified" when asked for evidence.

I believe the real reason they won't release it is because it would be subject to cross examination.

Our 'intelligence" agencies were telling us about Iraq's WMD and ties to Al Qaeda which led us to a war which was an epic disaster. Show me what you got or STFU.

It IS classified. We've gotten the declassified version.

Congress is seeing something different,

But like I said before, you don't trust them..and that's fine.

[tontoz]

True - but that depends on what they have

For instance if Russia has something that shows that he conspired with a foreign government - that would be treason.

Punishable by death? Even Trump would care about that... well, maybe not,

Let's assume Russia did have something like that. What possible reason would they have to give it to us? So Trump could be impeached? I don't see how that would help them.

The blackmail scenario makes no sense no matter how you look at it.